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Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:45 PM

I must be a DU anomaly, is it cool that I still vote DEM?

I own several firearms (including the Devil's own AR and AK variants). I used to and will probably renew my concealed carry permit (primarily so I can keep them in my truck).
Oh, I drive a big ol dirty 13 year old Ford F150 too. It's sporting a brand new "Hayduke Lives" bumper sticker that replaced the older faded one.
I eat meat. Not so much red meat on a regular basis, mainly a chicken and coldcuts kinda thing, but I will grill a mean steak on occasion.

Just because I eat meat, own guns, and drive a noisy pickup truck does that preclude me from being a Democrat? My values are very left-leaning (anti-death penalty, pro healthcare, pro social justice, very environmental...) I always thought that it was your core values that determined how you vote...

What do you do that is atypical of the arugula eating, latte drinking, Prius driving idea of what a Democrat is supposed to be? Does it make you any less of a Democrat?

I'm still gonna hang around here if that's cool (and even if it isnt)?

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Reply I must be a DU anomaly, is it cool that I still vote DEM? (Original post)
NightWatcher Jan 2013 OP
Skittles Jan 2013 #1
Major Nikon Jan 2013 #13
Skittles Jan 2013 #23
peacebird Jan 2013 #2
Cary Jan 2013 #3
geckosfeet Jan 2013 #4
quinnox Jan 2013 #5
NightWatcher Jan 2013 #8
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #12
leftstreet Jan 2013 #6
hack89 Jan 2013 #7
OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2013 #16
flying rabbit Jan 2013 #20
Swamp Lover Jan 2013 #9
NightWatcher Jan 2013 #15
Swamp Lover Jan 2013 #24
EastKYLiberal Jan 2013 #10
tabasco Jan 2013 #11
NightWatcher Jan 2013 #17
Deep13 Jan 2013 #29
MADem Jan 2013 #31
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #14
NightWatcher Jan 2013 #19
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #21
Still Sensible Jan 2013 #18
OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2013 #22
reverend_tim Jan 2013 #32
TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #25
Romulox Jan 2013 #26
backwoodsbob Jan 2013 #27
Deep13 Jan 2013 #28
JDPriestly Jan 2013 #30

Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:48 PM

1. SCHEDULING NIGHTWATCHER FOR ASS KICKING

F*** HOW I DESPISE NOISY PICKUPS; EGREGIOUS

my atypical thing - I am not anti-cop

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:19 PM

13. Ass kicking

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:10 PM

23. YEE HAW!

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:53 PM

2. We have a 22 and a shotgun for varmint control, and we eat meat (purely grassfed free range)

And I feel no pressure from fellow DUers to leave the site.... Why do you?

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:58 PM

3. Sounds a little martyrish to me. n/t

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:59 PM

4. Its just that some folks around these parts carry a very broad brush.

Have no fear. You are not alone.

I was never fond of pick ups though.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:01 PM

5. you are "very environmental", yet drive a gas guzzling

pickup truck. OK...

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Response to quinnox (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:05 PM

8. Yep, I drive it 2-3 days a week tops. Usually less than 30 miles a week

I don't commute

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Response to quinnox (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:14 PM

12. I drive a Jeep

Not the greenest of cars, trust me.

My Honda civic will not do well in fire coverage, and trying to chase fire brush trucks with it would be dangerous for the vehicle and the fire crews.

Heck, the other day at a church fire...I used the 4x4...trust me, the Honda would have gotten stuck.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:03 PM

6. What year is the Ford?

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:04 PM

7. There are plenty of pro-gun Dems here

DU is having one of our semi-annual Lord of the Flies moments. Things will settle down soon.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:26 PM

16. +++

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Response to hack89 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:39 PM

20. semi-annual Lord of the Flies moments.


The Ministry of Outrage will be here to chastise you forthwith.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:08 PM

9. There are lots of Democrats who own guns, eat meat and drive trucks.

 

But if you are storing firearms in your truck, you are irresponsible, regardless of which lever you pull in the voting booth.

I'm hoping that your post was a misstatement.

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:25 PM

15. Whoa no, I used to drive with the handguns

I don't store any guns in it. I don't carry in the truck when I run out for errands.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:28 PM

24. Good to know.

 

I think responsible gun owners set a good example for bad gun owners.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:12 PM

10. I eat meat, don't give two shits about privacy issues, and moderately support military intervention.

 

I am for unions, universal healthcare and education, higher minimum wage, an establishment of a maximum wage, believe in fighting climate change by any means necessary (even if unconstitutional), support very strict gun control (a la Japan) and will vote straight Dem until I have a pragmatic reason not to.

I also stand with the LGBT community. I'm coming around on feminist issues. And I support a woman's right to choose. No exceptions.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:13 PM

11. Waaaaaah!

Call the waaaaaahmbulance for the big baby!!!!

The mean hippies are picking on him!!!!

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Response to tabasco (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:28 PM

17. Just going to show that there are all types here

There are no hippies picking on me, just a whole lot of new litmus tests seem to be springing up.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:04 AM

29. Must publicly shame those who disagree with me!

Is that a selfie?

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Response to tabasco (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:10 AM

31. Good gravy, that post is the opposite of progressive!

So much for the big tent....

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:19 PM

14. Just a few guesses

You live ear or at "fly over country" or a rural area.

You do hunt.

While I do not believe your AK and AR have a place in civilian hands (now lower the effective rate of fire max size of mags at ten, by all means, nothing to do with the shape of gun), I think you can own guns.

We do as you do, with the occasional steak.

But your broad brush is as wide as our urban types.

By the way arugula cooked with butter, garlic, salt and Pepper goes great with that steak!



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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:36 PM

19. Fly over country, good one

Nah, I'm from Georgia but I lived in Atlanta where I used to work in investigations/protection- thus the guns. I've never lived "in the country". I went hunting once but felt like an idiot wearing camo trying to sneak up on a deer at dawn.
I couldn't tell you the last time I went shooting.

Stereotypes are funny sometimes.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:41 PM

21. Yup, but you do live in a very red area

Where statistically gun ownership is higher than oh even San Diego (city mind you).

So my stereotype was based on what I know from my "country" folk who are living in very red areas.

Sorry.

By the way, I am serious about the Arugula...I am not too fond of it in salads. Nor do we have it often. The local season is two months old. It's affordable for a week, tops two.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:31 PM

18. Actually sound like a pretty middle of the road democrat

to me. So long as you're not one of those gun owners that believes any dialog about gun control means we're trying to ban 'em all (although that statement would get me in trouble with some folks on both sides of the question).

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:47 PM

22. As you will see, on today's version of Democratic Gunderground

You are allowed to call gun owners, Athiests, meat eaters and pickup truck drivers almost any name in the book but don't dare call a Republican a retard! Trust me, there are many of us here that agree but the (very selective) PC crowd here right now is on a roll.
This has been well noted by this gun owning, meat eating, pickup driving, athiest member of over 11 years.

Yes, you can be a gun owning, pickup driving, meat eating athiest and still be a liberal. Regardless of the PC police that make up the rules as they go along. Think of them as the tea party left and give them the same creedence or put them on ignore.

I do and I am much happier for it.

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Response to OffWithTheirHeads (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:37 AM

32. could not have said it better my self

It does not mater if my car gets 15 miles to the gallon, It still gets 3 gallons to the week.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:25 AM

25. Hell, half the biggest screamers are corporatist, security state loving, interventionist assholes

banging the drum and beating chests for liberal street cred.

When this moves on, they'll be back to pitching free trade agreements, cheering blowing up some middle eastern folks, and supporting education deform so fuck em. Not that plenty of actual leftists are die hard too but a lot of them are stone cold Turd Way.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:26 AM

26. Excellent post. nt

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:32 AM

27. Don't feel bad

In the last month I've been called a baby killing fascist rw'er who kills for fun and who will help with the overthrow of our government for my selfish interests.

It gets kind of fun after a while.

If you don't have enemies here you aren't doing it right

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:01 AM

28. You vote the way you think is best.

You don't need our permission.

For my own self I do not self-identify as "Democrat" unless we are just talking about registration simply because I do not like the personification of increasingly specific categories that modern society seems compelled to impose on us. As a practical matter, I vote Democratic because it is often because the only other alternative is fascism.

I shoot a lot recreationally, though I do not hunt. I appreciate the practical need to make guns harder to get, but I also understand--mostly at a gut level--the resistance to it too.

I don't expect to stop eating meat for ideological reasons. It seems too much like a theistic dietary restriction. I honestly don't care about the feelings of domestic animals, though I do care about conservation. I would snap the necks of every test animal on Earth if it would save one AIDS-riddled crack whore for a week. Those things and my personal conviction that religion is false an, therefore, bad and a refusal to get that view to myself are what put me outside of DU norms.

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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:08 AM

30. It's cool. If you agree are on an internet site and you agree

with everyone all the time while everyone agrees with you all the time, you are probably not on DU. You might be on a cooking site or a knitting site or maybe a gun or truck site, but not DU.

No two DUers think the same about every topic. That's what makes this such an interesting site. Can you imagine how boring it would be if we all agreed?

You can teach others (even if they don't want to hear what you have to say), and you can learn from others (even if you don't want to hear what they have to say). That's what is so great about DU.

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