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Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:46 AM

That Obama-Clinton Chemistry (Joint 60-Minutes Interview)

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from Joan Walsh at Salon: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/28/that_obama_clinton_chemistry/




That Obama-Clinton Chemistry
It wasn't about 2016. It was about two hard-working "gluttons for punishment" enjoying their unlikely friendship

. . . Iím not entirely sure why the joint interview, which was hyped for so many days, whose hype I resisted, wound up being so affecting. But let me throw out a few thoughts about it.

Iím sure most of it was the bitter battle between the two of them. It was nice to see that Obama giving Clinton a tough and high-profile job wasnít merely placating or co-opting a rival. And maybe the glow was just what happens when two charismatic figures with adorable chemistry appear together. Weíve seen them together only briefly on stage. Weíve seen them, sadly, at the homecoming for dead heroes like Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and the other Americans killed in Benghazi.

There may simply be a remarkable charge when these two amazing firsts Ė first African American president, first 18-million-cracks-in-the-glass-ceiling female candidate ó come together. And when they donít fight, like those firsts are supposed to do, and once did, but they glory in one anotherís radiance, and they support one another.

. . . So set aside 2016. Iím not sure why the president wanted to do the joint interview Ė Steve Kroft said it was his idea, which is interesting, but who really knows? But Iím glad they did. In this era of ugly near mortal political combat, itís reassuring when two formal rivals come together. Their obvious physical comfort and warmth was strangely moving.

Seeing two of the worldís most powerful people, who happen to be a black man and a white woman, leaning in against one another and laughing and sighing, sharing their enjoyment of one anotherís company and their relief at the hard times theyíve seen the country through ó well, now Iím not sure why I was acting like it was hard to explain its delight. It was delightful.


read: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/28/that_obama_clinton_chemistry/

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bigtree Jan 2013 OP
Mdterp01 Jan 2013 #1
bigtree Jan 2013 #2
Cha Jan 2013 #30
woo me with science Jan 2013 #3
lunatica Jan 2013 #4
bigtree Jan 2013 #5
woo me with science Jan 2013 #6
bigtree Jan 2013 #8
woo me with science Jan 2013 #10
bigtree Jan 2013 #11
woo me with science Jan 2013 #12
bigtree Jan 2013 #13
woo me with science Jan 2013 #14
snooper2 Jan 2013 #7
woo me with science Jan 2013 #9
Beacool Jan 2013 #15
snooper2 Jan 2013 #18
Beacool Jan 2013 #20
lillypaddle Jan 2013 #26
woo me with science Jan 2013 #31
Beacool Jan 2013 #16
bigtree Jan 2013 #17
Beacool Jan 2013 #19
iandhr Jan 2013 #21
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bigtree Jan 2013 #22
thucythucy Jan 2013 #23
sheshe2 Jan 2013 #24
lillypaddle Jan 2013 #25
alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #27
lovemydog Jan 2013 #28
pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #29
bigtree Jan 2013 #32

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:37 AM

1. I Love Joe Biden but....

 

Had Hillary been VP, there would be no doubt about her 2016 run. However, sources in the Washington political scene have said that it was more Michelle and not Barack who didn't think Hillary should be asked for VP due to the thought that both Hillary and Bill would be undermining. Still wish I had that crystal ball of sorts to see what an Obama/Clinton presidency would've been like. In the end, I think Joe has been great and he and the President make a great team.

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Response to Mdterp01 (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:53 AM

2. we had much better than an Obama/Clinton presidency, I think

. . . with Hillary serving as SoS. That's just a more influential, substantive, and consequential post where we got to see just how independently dynamic her performance and policy turned out to be. If you follow State, you'll see a depth and breadth of activities and initiatives from Sec. Clinton which make for a notable and (in many ways) historic script for our nation vs. the world. It's really remarkable just how unified the two were on policy and how much deference and respect she appeared to give the President on issues and the details of his policies. There really isn't a more important and impressionistic position.

What was a hoot for me was the way in which Mrs. Clinton put the campaign rhetoric about her dilettante-like travels around the globe as first lady right in the can with her brilliant, resourceful, and unflagging stewardship of our nation's foreign policy.

I actually think she greatly enhanced her 2016 prospects in her role and performance (if that's what she wants). Despite the fact that she's always been a compelling figure, her persona has never had this much appeal.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 01:49 AM

30. Yeah, funny how things work out. This has been the

absolute best combo, imv, too, bigtree. Pres Obama, VP Biden, and SOS Hillary.

We're fortunate to have so many brilliant Democrats who are there to serve our country.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:58 AM

3. "Glory"? "Radiance"?

Methinks the headline writer was smoking something that made him a little rhapsodic. This sounds like something out of North Korea propaganda.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:02 AM

4. It was Joan Walsh

She does that while still staying relevant.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:08 AM

6. Nope, that's the point. I view them as humans and politicians,

not as godlike figures who "radiate" and create feelings of "glory."

The wording is extremely silly, and *particularly* ridiculous when used for politicians. That's all.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:22 AM

10. My, my, you are taking this seriously...


That's a little disturbing....

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Response to bigtree (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:42 AM

12. "prurient motive"

Oh, bigtree...I don't even know what to say to all this gravity.

It is very, very interesting, and getting creepier by the minute, to say the least...


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Response to bigtree (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:28 AM

14. Here, have a cartoon.

They're good for you. Really.


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Response to bigtree (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:11 AM

7. Actually the way it was written the "Barack Obama Hillary Clinton - Umbrella" vid comes to mind

LOL

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:21 AM

9. Oh my.



I actually thought of this one:

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:15 AM

15. Oh yeah, that MadTV video.

I almost forgot about it.



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Response to Beacool (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:58 AM

18. I figured some stupid noob would alert on me if I posted it

LOL

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:31 PM

20. Why?

MadTV was great, better than SNL. The video was meant in good fun.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:52 PM

26. aren't you a sad thing?

Must suck to be so negative.

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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:22 AM

31. That's what my neighbor told me

when I told her I was not preparing for the rapture.

She got really miffed about it, too.







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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:20 AM

16. I think that they always had chemistry.

Visually speaking, they look good together. They also have similar temperaments. They are both analytical, pragmatic and don't suffer fools gladly. They are not as outgoing as their spouses, but I think that as time went on they both have learned to enjoy the crowds.

By all accounts, they have enjoyed a good working relationship and have forged a friendship of sorts.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:32 AM

17. Barack has had Bill as a confidante

I'll bet that relationship provided opportunities for behind-the-scenes communication between the two through the awkward period after the primaries.

They really do seem to like each other. That kind of close, collegial relationship is what the President is said to be looking for from the folks he's asking to serve in his second term (like his longtime relationship with his new Chief of Staff).

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Response to bigtree (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:29 PM

19. People like them have a lot in common.

There are only a handful of people who have reached the upper echelon of politics. Regardless of party affiliation, presidents do have many things in common and know exactly what a sitting president is going through.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:14 PM

21. She has done an amazing job.

I honor her service to our country.

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Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:27 PM

22. .

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 05:09 PM

23. To me, it's always a relief to hear intelligent people

discuss issues intelligently.

By contrast, just imagine a joint interview with Mitt Romney and Joe Bolten. The horror we avoided!

Intelligent people don't hold grudges. They know how to work together for the common good.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:15 PM

24. Thank you, bigtree.

I only had a chance to see part 1.

Great interview...two great people, that set aside their differences, to work together making us a stonger, safer Nation. They are partners in progress. They Respect each other, as they Respect the people of this nation.

We are all better for that.



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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:50 PM

25. What a fantastic coupling

Hillary will be sorely missed at State. I am so proud of these two incredible leaders.

Can you even imagine what we might have had "instead?"

I love them both!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:13 PM

27. Oh, she's running, and I will walk the precincts for her until my feet bleed



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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:48 PM

28. They love serving their country

more than the divisions between people of differing opinions. I find that inspirational. Also, they're both kind of nerdy & policy wonkish, which is cool.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:51 PM

29. Lawrence O'Donnell called it 'Hillary and Barack's Excellent Adventure'

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:56 AM

32. radical

. . .

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