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Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:39 PM

Damnit! Super-Pundit George Will is on to Us!

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As every liberal knows, our strength doesn’t come from logic, science and a do-unto-others philosophy; it comes from obscuring the truth with facts. In George Will’s latest column on January 27th, 2013, he lays out the prescription for a conservative revival. When Obama mentions global warming – a science easily disproved by Will in his article – he sets the groundwork for failed policies that the left, especially Obama, were hoping would help impede the economy and keep people on food stamps and welfare. We were so close!

In order for a good conspiracy to work, it must remain hidden. Now that George Will has shown how ridiculous global warming science really is, how can “a cap-and-trade scheme” be implemented? (It goes without saying that this proves how far left the democrats have moved, now that they would champion a republican idea from the 90’s. The 90’s! Those guys were indistinguishable from Stalin.) George Will, expanding on the Wall Street Journal’s Holman Jenkins, ‘noted that although 2012 was 2.13 degrees Fahrenheit hotter than 2011, “2008, in the contiguous U.S., was two degrees cooler than 2006.”’ We’ve been counting on people being distracted by the fact that the last 330 months have all had an above average temperature, but Will has figured out how irrelevant that information is. What’s important is that sometimes it’s colder than other times, thus blowing a hole the size of the arctic ice cap in climate change science. (Which is, strictly by coincidence, getting smaller every year.)

In the best of all possible futures, Obama and the left would be able to destroy job growth, make the scientists even more powerful than they are now, add trillions and trillions to the debt, put millions more on food stamps and have this go completely unnoticed by the right. But unlike most pundits, George Will wasn’t satisfied with disproving the world’s scientists. He went on to ascertain that Bush’s presidency didn’t matter, in fact, it may not have even happened at all. Quoting Richard Vedder of the American Enterprise Institute, “If today the country had the same proportion of persons of working age employed as it did in 2000, the U.S. would have almost 14 million more people contributing to the economy.” Some may call it dishonest to compare the numbers of one democratic president to the numbers of another democratic president without mentioning the recession caused by the republican president in-between; but let’s face it, it’s actually just damn good math.

This isn’t Mr. Will’s first foray into the world of obliterating truth, history and science. One needs to pick and choose what numbers to use when making one’s points. And George knows how to pick and choose. In a February 2009 column, George Will stated the unemployment rate when FDR took office was, “then at 24.9 percent, it was perverse to diagnose the nation's problem as overproduction.” When wanting to show how ineffective FDR’s policies were, he chose 1939 with, “17.2 percent” in a November 2008 article. If he had picked 1940, the number would have been 14.6. See the difference? And all you have to do is ignore the unemployment rate went from 24.9 in 1933 to 16.9 in 1936, in the short period when FDR policies were in effect. After 1936, when austerity became the order of the day, the markets dropped and unemployment rose. Implementing his policies again in 1937/1938, the economy improved dramatically. Picking and choosing dates also works well if you want to discredit Roosevelt’s policies by an easier method. Start the clock in 1929 and end it in 1936, maintaining that it took FDR seven years to bring the market back to its 1929 numbers. The trick here is to make FDR responsible for the four year drop before he took office. Smart, huh?

But that’s not important. Destroying the economy, strengthening the mighty scientists and putting everyone on food stamps is what matters. How are we going to accomplish this with George Will as the smartest pundit in the room?

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Reply Damnit! Super-Pundit George Will is on to Us! (Original post)
20score Jan 2013 OP
suede1 Jan 2013 #1
BlueStreak Jan 2013 #5
Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #14
angrychair Jan 2013 #36
Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #39
FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #50
n2doc Jan 2013 #25
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #2
20score Jan 2013 #8
punkin87 Jan 2013 #3
20score Jan 2013 #11
ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #4
20score Jan 2013 #20
rhett o rick Jan 2013 #6
ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #7
freshwest Jan 2013 #9
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #13
oldhippydude Jan 2013 #30
thucythucy Jan 2013 #33
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #34
20score Jan 2013 #22
Vinnie From Indy Jan 2013 #10
dgauss Jan 2013 #12
nxylas Jan 2013 #28
reACTIONary Jan 2013 #15
NBachers Jan 2013 #16
Duppers Jan 2013 #17
20score Jan 2013 #19
Zoeisright Jan 2013 #18
Festivito Jan 2013 #21
lunatica Jan 2013 #23
20score Jan 2013 #26
JHB Jan 2013 #24
LongTomH Jan 2013 #27
Wolf Frankula Jan 2013 #29
oldhippydude Jan 2013 #31
MADem Jan 2013 #45
hfojvt Jan 2013 #32
lastlib Jan 2013 #35
AlbertCat Jan 2013 #37
Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #38
20score Jan 2013 #40
beac Jan 2013 #41
Pryderi Jan 2013 #42
Andy Stanton Jan 2013 #43
Bainbridge Bear Jan 2013 #44
Ian Iam Jan 2013 #46
marions ghost Jan 2013 #47
Cary Jan 2013 #48
marions ghost Jan 2013 #49
Cary Jan 2013 #51
marions ghost Jan 2013 #52

Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:44 PM

1. By any chance do you have a digital

version of his latest column?

Nice job of calling Will out on his stupidity, too.

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Response to suede1 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:03 PM

5. I'm thinking Will probably still uses a typewriter and carbon paper.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:28 PM

14. I picture the one from "The Naked Lunch"...

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:33 PM

36. OMG

Outstanding taste in movies. It is very rare see a "Naked Lunch" reference. Color me impressed. People on this site never fail to impress me. May not always agree but we have a lot of very smart people here. That "kudos" goes for the OP as well. Naked Lunch....love that movie.

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Response to angrychair (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:56 PM

39. Let's not forget Tom DeLay was "The Bug Man".

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Response to angrychair (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:14 PM

50. You DO still see references to Steely Dan, though...

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:49 PM

2. Wow. Excellent, excellent.

This brilliant piece deserves much wider circulation.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:19 PM

8. Thank you!

Much appreciated!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:55 PM

3. Love it!

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Response to punkin87 (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:55 PM

11. Thanks!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:01 PM

4. Heh

Excellent!

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:29 PM

20. Thank you!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:04 PM

6. He was ABC's go to guy for comments on the inauguration. nm

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:09 PM

7. Comrades! Let us hope this "George Will" non-person does not

closely examine the chocolate ration numbers from 1947-1950 and 1995 to 1997. It could expose our stooges in the Ministry Of Outrage (MOO) and disrupt the five-year plan.


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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:33 PM

9. LOL@ The Ministry of Outrage (MOO). That's a good one for DU.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:17 PM

13. We Cheeseheads deeply resent the implications of this MOO business.

We suspect that you are secretly making fun of our collective Dairy Air.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:22 PM

30. i too make excection with MOO....

no MOO'S is good MOO"s

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:39 PM

33. This is all so A-MOOsing!

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #33)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 02:43 PM

34. Baaaad.

I say Neigh to this whole topic.

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:22 AM

22. Well said!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:02 PM

12. Meddlesome super pundit...


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Response to dgauss (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:03 PM

28. And we'd have gotten away with it too....

Rooby rooby roo!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:58 PM

15. Thank you for reading and exposing G. Fatuous Swill...

...so I don't have to read him myself!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:14 PM

16. How much longer will I have to completely ignore Gorge Swill?

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:15 PM

17. Excellent!!

Impressive account of Will's latest lies. Seldom can I bring myself to read even part , let alone most of one of his columns; I'm glad you had the fortitude to do so and chronicle and dissected the lies so well.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #17)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:32 PM

19. Always great to see you Duppers!

Thanks! You rock!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:18 PM

18. Old Swill is the best at projection.

He's the fucking textbook example.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:43 AM

21. Always with his one little-used word.

It's as though he's fed a word a day or per article in order to put a pall over any response.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:31 AM

23. I hope you write for a living

Or did you forget to post a link? If not on both points then you should.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:54 AM

26. Than you Lunatica!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:54 AM

24. I'm guessing Will is a non-smoker...

...When one breaths and re-breaths such a great quantity of flatulence the methane buildup can be catastrophic.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 12:58 PM

27. "A lie can travel around the world before Truth can get its boots on!"

And Republican pundits can fill the room with bullshit before Liberal commentators can get their waders on!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:21 PM

29. Here's a song for George Will by Tom Smith

WILL THE LYING MORON
(thanks to Gordon on Atrios)

(chorus)
Will the Lying Moron
Lived in D.C.
And frolicked in the daily <i>Post</i>
In the Land of Punditry.

Little Ronnie Reagan
Taught that rascal Will
To look surprised at his own lies
And more Atwater swill!

(chorus x2)

To gather facts and trivia
That he could then misstate,
Our Will would say the damndest things
To help his candidate.

He thought he sounded folksy,
But came off elite and rude,
Remember when he blamed Clinton
For "moral turpitude"?

(chorus x2)

A Reagan lives forever,
But not so little lies,
Georgie was discredited
In everybody's eyes.

One gray night it happened,
Georgie's paper called no more,
And Will that Lying Moron...
Became a TV whore!

He got a gig on This Week,
Spent time on Meet The Press,
Every talk show in the land
Demanded him as guest.

And Dubya sure respects him,
Their bond is deep and true,
They both love baseball, are disgraceful,
And both hate me and you!

(chorus x2)

Words: Copyright 2004 by Tom Smith, after Lenny Lipton
Music: "Puff the Magic Dragon" by Peter Yarrow

Expresses my thoughts for Georgie exactly.

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #29)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:30 PM

31. fine song... thank you

this generation needs a Kingston Trio... or Smothers Brothers... perhaps they are out there, and my ear is too old!

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:01 AM

45. I'll bet that song is on Jimmy Carter's Top Ten List! nt

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:49 PM

32. OPERATION TAKER IS COMPROMISED!!!1!!

THE MOON RISES AT NOON!!
THE MOON RISES AT NOON!!


Ah well, time to regroup. At least we got the muslin re-elected by covering up his Kenyan birth.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:05 PM

35. Da#$%N!! We've been found out! Now there's nothing but hope for Amurika!

What's a good, faithful Communist Kenyan socialist Marxist Muslin to do now??!?

. . .

(back to the Little Red Book, I guess.................)

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:41 PM

37. We've got them right where we want them!

We knew Will would expose our diabolical food stamp universality plan.... but we wanted him to! MWAHAHAHA!

No one will believe him! We've made him the Cassandra of the Right!


By exposing our plans to him, we knew he'd write about them. No one believes what he writes so by exposing us he has hidden us!

We may now proceed unopposed.... while Will cries "Look Out!", but no one listens! Mwahahahaha Mwahahahahahahahaha Mwhahahahahahahahahahahaha...


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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 03:50 PM

38. Very well said!

That was one of the best rebuttals I've read in quite some time, and such a worthy target you chose.

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Response to Lone_Star_Dem (Reply #38)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 06:57 PM

40. Thanks!

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:27 PM

41. Hey, George Will, drop dead!*






* I figure his blathering deserves an equally intelligent and well-reasoned response.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:41 PM

42. I think he wrote the script for "2016" n/t

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 08:38 PM

43. Will's Such a Dumbass

He's made a career of saying the dumbest things but getting away with it because he sounds smart while saying them. But virtually everything he writes is ridiculous right wing claptrap that you'd hear from the likes of Rush Limbaugh.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 12:25 AM

44. How can this insufferable

 

asshole be called a "super-pundit" when he doesn't have a clue? He and Bill Kristol should hang their heads in shame for all the money they have made being wrong as establishment hacks. Yeah, I know, when pigs fly.

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:40 PM

46. DURec

 

But, whenever I see "damnit," I hear "dam nit."

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Response to 20score (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 02:49 PM

47. Does anyone on the right really pay any attention to George Will?

--he blows so much hot air it'll increase Global Warming... I think they just suffer George Will like some demented uncle who remains useful for taking out the trash.

ANYONE who doesn't at least SUSPECT that climate change is occurring is a Neanderthal. So stupid.

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:20 PM

48. Hey, hey and hey

Do not disrespect Neandertal that way!

It's true that they had bigger bones but homo sapiens sapiens didn't progress beyond Neandertal, from stone tools to bone tools, for over 10,000 years after Neandertal went extinct. There is no proof that they were as stupid as George Will and some of us have Neandertal DNA. And if you're going to go with the "they're extinct and we're not" thing then understand that they were around for 200,000 years while we're only working on about 40,000 at present and looking at our own extinction at our own hand because of what we're doing to our environment.

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Response to Cary (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 04:52 PM

49. Ok let's not disrespect Neandertals

So people who think Climate Change is an ugly liberal myth are as dumb and delusional as...what?

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:00 AM

51. "Conservatives"

People who think Climate Change is an ugly liberal myth are as dumb and delusional as "conservatives."

I was only half joking about Neandertal by the way. There are actually paleoanthropologists who regard the notion of the superiority of homo sapiens sapiens as racist, and actually if you think about it they make a pretty good argument IMHO.

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Response to Cary (Reply #51)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:19 AM

52. You did make a good case for it

Maybe "Troglodyte" would be OK with the paleos. Even tho based on a possibly real group, it has long been fictionalized:

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Homo troglodytes, an invalid taxon coined by Carl Linnaeus to refer to a legendary creature
Troglodyte (Dungeons & Dragons), a race of humanoid monsters in the game Dungeons & Dragons
Troglodyte, a 2009 film also known as Sea Beast
"Troglodyte (Cave Man)", a funk song by the Jimmy Castor Bunch on their 1972 album It's Just Begun

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Re Neandertals or any such--you make a good point. After seeing what modern humans can be like, we should NOT feel at all superior to the caveman.

We're more like the hapless Trilobites (extinct anthropods) --if we don't try to stop global warming by any means possible.

It's hard to convince people that it's now an emergency that scientists have seen coming for a long time. Too big for a lot of people to understand, too scary. But it can no longer be ignored.

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