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Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:12 PM

Seattle Gun Buyback Exceeds Expectations, Blows Through $118,000 in Under Three Hours

Source: The Stranger

A line of cars, trunks filled with unwanted weapons, still extended for several blocks up James Street when police officers started turning vehicles away shortly before noon. Demand for Seattle's first gun buyback program in two decades had far exceeded demand, blowing through its $118,000 in contributions halfway through what was supposed to be a six-hour event.

Among the hundreds of handguns, shotguns, rifles, and assault weapons collected today was a shoulder-mounted surface-to-air missile launcher and three "Street Sweepers": 12-gauge 12-round semiautomatic shotguns specifically designed for combat and riot control. "'Street Sweeper' says it all," an uncharacteristically tongue-tied Mayor Mike McGinn said about the weapons.

"It's a little surreal," Seattle Police Foundation president Renée Hopkins said surveying the bins of surrendered weapons and the long line of citizens waiting to voluntarily hand over their arms. The foundation is administrating the gun buyback program, and contributed $25,000 toward funding the event. Hopkins says today's turnout "exceeded expectations," and she's looking forward to getting back to work raising money to fund upcoming buyback events at locations throughout the county.

... But by 11:30 am, two and half hours into what was supposed to be a six-hour event, it became apparent that at $100 per handgun, rifle, and shotgun, and $200 per assault weapon, the demand would quickly outstrip the $80,000 worth of gift cards on hand. The decision was made to close the line to newcomers and provide IOUs when the gift cards ran out, up to the total $118,000 in private donations the buyback program had alreay raised. A lot of unwanted-gun owners went home disappointed, yet few took advantage of the dozens of private gun buyers who had lined the streets, hoping to purchase weapons on the cheap. And that, perhaps, was the most remarkable aspect of today's event.

Read more: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2013/01/26/seattle-gun-buyback-exceeds-expectations-blows-through-118000-in-under-three-hours

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Reply Seattle Gun Buyback Exceeds Expectations, Blows Through $118,000 in Under Three Hours (Original post)
Newsjock Jan 2013 OP
BainsBane Jan 2013 #1
davidn3600 Jan 2013 #3
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ellisonz Jan 2013 #6
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ellisonz Jan 2013 #8
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ellisonz Jan 2013 #10
Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #11
ellisonz Jan 2013 #12
Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #16
EvolveOrConvolve Jan 2013 #29
CreekDog Jan 2013 #31
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Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #17
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RC Jan 2013 #22
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CreekDog Jan 2013 #23
JI7 Jan 2013 #27
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CreekDog Jan 2013 #19
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farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36
TheBlackAdder Jan 2013 #51
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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:17 PM

1. This seems to be the case around the nation

People are voluntarily giving up their guns. Wonderful news!

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:19 PM

3. I wonder how many of them are criminals

A gangster is going to give up his gun?

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:20 PM

4. why would he?

If he plans on using it? Not unless he's reforming his ways.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:26 PM

5. quick way to get rid of hot gun

most of these are no questions asked. They can just steal another one.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:28 PM

6. "They can just steal another one."

Not if everyone doesn't have guns anymore because they turned them into the police.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:32 PM

7. like thats going to happen

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:35 PM

8. Won't happen if the NRA Clowns keep trying to stop sensible gun control reform...

...well maybe it will - but how many would have to suffer?




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Response to ellisonz (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:38 PM

9. Sorry not going to happen

until the second amendment is repealed. Until then it is legal for a citizen to have a gun and a criminal to steal it.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:42 PM

10. The Second Amendment prohibts government from requiring responsible gun ownership?

There's all kinds of technology we could require to be used to stop this. But the fact remains the NRA Clowns and their allies want to protect irresponsible gun owners despite the clear and evidently horrific effect on public safety. Just who does the anti-gun control lobby serve again?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:49 PM

11. OK

how do you legislate responsible gun ownership? I have mine in a safe even though I live alone. Still can be stolen given enough time.

couple of posts ago you called for government confiscation and that could not happen due to the second amendment.

I guess now it is just responsible ownership, move the goal posts much?

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:58 PM

12. I didn't call for "government confiscation"

I called for people laying down arms voluntarily. Those are two very different things. It is you sir, who has moved the goal posts.

Let's start with the President's gun control package and move from there. I think we also need to take a hard look at a variety of other measures. But rest assured, I respect your right to keep and bear arms, but I don't respect it when it's done in an irresponsible manner that undermines public safety.

I have mine in a safe even though I live alone. Still can be stolen given enough time.


We need to take a good hard look at a national safe storage law IMHO.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:19 PM

16. correct, you did not call for confiscation

my mistake, as I would have thought that would be the only way to get 100% voluntary compliance for turning in weapons.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #9)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 01:05 AM

29. It's legal for a criminal to steal a gun?

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #29)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 03:47 AM

31. wtf

interesting that he answered me but didn't answer you.

he's making no sense in this thread.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:11 PM

13. guns are dangerous to non criminals

they are used for suicides, accidental shootings, they are stolen, they are used in domestic violence.

by non criminals all the time.

giving up a gun makes many, many non criminals safer in their own homes.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:23 PM

17. So are many other dangerous items

but we only talk about guns. I think like any dangerous item, proper care must be taken to limit accidents without going completely off the bend.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:27 PM

18. we don't only talk about the safety issues of guns, please don't lie

we talk about the safety of cars.

we talk about the safety of building construction.

we talk about the safety of things that can cause fires.

we talk about the safety of things around the house that can endanger children.

we talk about safety all the time.

if you try to say all we talk about is gun safety THAT IS CALLED LYING.

stop playing around.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:42 PM

20. never to the same extent

to save the life of just one child ...............................

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:58 PM

22. "Gun Safety" is an oxymoron.

 

Guns, weapons are designed from the beginning to be dangerous, because their basic purpose is to kill living things. Some are even fine tuned to kill humans more efficiently. We call those assault weapons.

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Response to RC (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:55 PM

44. No, assault weapons are not "fine tuned to kill humans more efficiently"

Though if you actually do think that, your positions make more internal sense to me than they used to.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:59 PM

23. that's false. i grew up with monthly earthquake drills

i never once in my life had a crazed gunman drill.

they require fire sprinklers in all new buildings now.

they don't require people who have guns to keep them in safes.

stop with the lies. seriously. i'm not putting up with bullshit NRA talking points anymore.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:15 AM

27. yes we do, if one child is harmed or dies from a faulty product it becomes news

and usually the item is recalled.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 01:08 AM

30. Excellent Creekdog!

we do talk about safety all the time- except about firearms.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:19 PM

2. Like the rocket launcher shit again

Saw it on NBC news. another empty tube

The single-use device, which Mayor Mike McGinn later described as a rocket-propelled grenade launcher, had already been used and could not function, according to a department bomb squad member. A man who was at the event bought the launcher for $100, but that man then had it confiscated by Seattle police.

Police said it was taken to determine what exactly it was, and that the non-functioning device could be later returned to the man.

It would be interesting to have a list of what was turned in.

Good way for some people to get rid of unwanted guns. I also see that buyers set up all around to buy before turn in.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:29 PM

19. if you don't like gun buybacks, don't donate money for them

quit derailing factual and logical things being said in this thread with falsehoods you are intent on peddling (like you did in response to my earlier post).

if you can't tell the truth about your arguments, you're either ignorant of the facts, or worried that a factual argument is doesn't support your side.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:47 PM

21. I have no big problems with buybacks

I just for once would like to see some tell of the stupidity of buying an empty plastic tube. The police even hold it up and get it photographed saying how this is making us so much safer. Could of taken one more real gun off the street. Same thing happened a couple of months ago in LA.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:04 AM

24. no, you're not being honest --you DO have a problem with gun buybacks

or you wouldn't be posting more than a dozen messages mocking them for more than just the rocket launcher reason.

if you cannot carry on a discussion on this topic honestly, which in this thread, you've proven you cannot, then nobody is going to believe a thing you say on the topic.

so what i recommend, for your sake and the sake of your gun rights --stop posting on this topic, because the very thing working against your rights to own a gun, the most dangerous thing to your rights right now? your false and dishonest posts related to guns.

see, everyone's going to think you're trying to fool them and whatever argument you make now, many will assume is false.

so whatever genius argument you make, because you've killed your credibility, people will believe the opposite.

so, to protect your rights, i recommend that you stop talking.

if you want gun control passed and strengthened, then keep posting as you have...your false posts will sell it better than i can.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:10 AM

25. OK

You got me, that is my secret obsession. Yes sir all buybacks are bad. It is good you know more about me than me.




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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:11 AM

26. Probably a lot of malfunctioning or non-functional weapons bought back

firearms don't depreciate very much, and many people consider them an investment. at $100 per piece, you're probably gonna get a lot of broken stuff. getting people to turn in all their functional weapons will take a lot more than $100 each!

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:09 AM

36. look at your own post, old chap. they gave the empty tube back.

i'm sure there are some loaded ones somewhere in some neo-nazi's garage, so...

scumbags poaching unwanted guns to put them back in circulation is pretty amoral and shitty, too.

like guns are a holy icon or something. this rathner a-hole in ON THE BOARD of the NRA. get it?

http://www.npr.org/2013/01/09/168926749/nra-vows-to-stop-tuscon-from-destroying-guns

Todd Rathner, an Arizona lobbyist and a national board member of the NRA, may sue. He has no problem with the gun buyback, but he does have a problem with the fate of the guns once police take possession of them.

"We do believe that it is illegal for them to destroy those guns," he says.

Rathner says Arizona state law forces local governments to sell seized or abandoned property to the highest bidder.

"If property has been abandoned to the police, then they are required by ARS 12-945 to sell it to a federally licensed firearms dealer, and that's exactly what they should do," he says.

That way, Rathner says, the guns can be put back in circulation or given away.

The Tucson city attorney calls that a misreading of the law.

Councilman Kozachik says the guns aren't being abandoned; they're being turned in voluntarily.

"This is about giving somebody the chance to say, 'Look I'm not comfortable having this weapon, here's an opportunity for me to just get rid of it in a proper manner,' " Kozachik says.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #36)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:13 PM

51. Someone objected to the name you used. The Jury allowed it.

It was close. Next time, it won't be close.

Please use names and cuss words more selectively as to not cast you or your message in a negative light.

You will get more dramatic effect if you selectively use shock words. And when you do, just spell them out instead of using letters or asterisks in them. This place does not filter on swear words. The individual folks who do select to block them don't want to hear the abbreviated versions either.

Thanks.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #51)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:26 PM

54. was not me

Been called much worse than that

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #54)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:38 PM

58. I seriously doubt you would do it. nt

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #36)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:24 PM

53. correct sir

Since it never made it to the buyback. It was sold legally to a new owner at the site. The police just decided to confiscate it and had to give it back as no law was broken.

Nice name calling though, have a nice day

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #53)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:34 PM

57. i'll apologize, i get carried away, just look at the pic here, plz

http://www.trentonian.com/article/20130126/NEWS01/130129745/mercer-gun-buyback-nets-over-2-500-guns

if buybacks bring in stuff like that, i mean, jeez.

i'm sorry i called you a a name, i changed it, i take it back.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #57)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:48 PM

61. Thank you sir

Saw the picture and if the owner did not want it anymore it is a good thing it is out of circulation and this was an option open to them. It is still only a 15 round semi-automatic shotgun.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #61)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:55 PM

63. please! 'ONLY' a 15 round semi-auto shotgun? riot control?

you must be dealing with some seriously hardcore ducks, bro...

those things must be....quackers!! (joke...crackers...meaning crazy...)

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:18 PM

14. kick

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:19 PM

15. HUGE K & R !!!




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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:47 AM

28. What is the point of buying back guns when there is a a flood of new guns flowing into the market?

I know it makes everybody feel like they are doing something useful, but it seems completely pointless to me.

I wonder how many people took their cash from turning in a junk gun and then went to a gun shop to buy a better gun.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:42 AM

32. That's the attitude

Did you notice the part where surprisingly few people sold their guns to the people who were lining the street hoping to score a cheap gun? These people were trying to do the right thing and avoid the possibility of guns falling into the wrong hands. I know my fellow Seattleites. This is a good start, why be negative?

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Response to Flying Squirrel (Reply #32)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:11 AM

33. The Cynic in me...

would like you to recognize that the gun dealers would likely check to see if the weapons were functional and would have to document their existence (and hence continue to be evidence?), whereas the Police sponsored event would accept any weapon and better yet, will destroy it at the end!

Anytime we remove guns from "the streets" it is a positive step. I just hope the folks in Seattle are taking some precautions regarding weapons that had potentially been used in crimes (and i admittedly don't know how that would work)...




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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:27 AM

34. because fewer and fewer households are owning guns

at least in the long term.

and the more households that have either fewer guns or no guns, the better for them and us.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:11 AM

37. some people want to get rid of them and others want to hoard

have you looked at gun prices lately?

not gonna get a 'better' gun for $100, or even $200.

you get a 50 year old .22 rifle.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #37)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:39 PM

42. 12 gauge shotguns, on the lower end, are around $75, maybe less, new.

Also, 7mmX57mm Mauser for about a hundred, (ON edit: Not new. "Like" new, derp, and dated, preferably with unmatched stamping.)


I was assuming you were talking about "Real" rifles, as opposed to plinking or varmint rifles.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #42)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 01:23 PM

46. great, you've inspired me to start buying guns and using the buyback profits to buy more guns

to sell to buybacks.

if new guns are so cheap, we can start clearing out walmarts and giving them all to the cops to melt down still in the box.

awesome idea, thanks!

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:09 PM

40. Yup. This is just a big handout to gun manufactures.

People turn in their poorly maintained guns and go out and buy more guns with the money.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #40)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 02:01 PM

48. how do you buy a gun with a a grocery card, exactly?

the cops factored in that little 'trick', i'd guess...

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #48)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:27 PM

49. Simple

The budget they had for food, goes to buy a gun. The card frees up extra spending money. Not too bright at all.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #49)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:46 PM

50. you certainly are

why would someone get LESS money (actually a gift card, again) from the cops than they could from some scumbag across the street, if they were planning on buying a new gun?

and you can't get a new gun for so little money, so even if someone traded in a gun for a gift cert. and bought a new gun (which they don't) they'd only be helping a pawn shop or some guy in a parking lot.

the people PURPOSEFULLY avoid the scalpers, to give the guns to the cops to be melted, of course they don't buy new ones. get it?

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #50)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:22 PM

52. Easy there mr chip on your shoulder

If you resort to personal attacks maybe you should take a time out.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #52)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:29 PM

55. maybe i'd be more polite if you weren't so cynical about a fundamentally good thing

and 'not too bright' may or may not have been directed at me, so, tighten it up a bit, maybe.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #55)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:38 PM

59. Less guns on street creates more demand from suppliers

these programs indirectly results in more money to the gun manufactures. It is that simple.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #59)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:03 PM

64. A plan that would make sense

would be a ban on the sale or transfer of assault weapons, combined with a campaign to buy any BANNED weapons.

Buying back weapons that aren't banned is way beyond stupid. That is the kind of thing that gives liberal a bad name.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #64)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:26 PM

65. Agreed

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #59)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:07 PM

66. no, that's backwards

the guns aren't on the street to begin with, they are in people's closets and attics.

people from 'the street' don't buy their guns, they steal them from people's closets and attics.

there is NO effect on demand for guns. at all.

gun dealers lose the chance to profit off a gun that should be destroyed, if that's what you mean.

manufacturers, no effect at all.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:49 AM

35. Good to hear.

It's a great way to make a pretty penny, too; broadcasting on the net that you'll pay 20 or 30 dollars for any firearm, any condition will normally net you some solid leads, you stockpile the weapons (used, crappy resale new, or broken), then wait for the next buyback to sell off otherwise un-serviceable weapons. The ones you want, you keep and fix up to working order, either for resale or personal use. You can even bulk-buy military surplus refits and sell 'em for about eighty to a hundred twenty bucks profit a gun. I know a few folks from here that are waiting for an east coast gun resale of similar magnitude doing the same thing.

The buyback gets the guns, and a thrifty buyer gets a profit. It's win/win.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:45 AM

38. Should have gone to my gun buy "back." Busted .22 was worth $50 in food!

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:05 PM

39. profiting off guns could also be seen as greedy. because it is.

stockpiling weapons could be seen as weird.

taking a gun that might solve a crime if turned into the police and making $20 is really kinda awful if you think about it for a second or two.

you make an interesting point though, what you seem to think is so fun is only illegal in two states.

maybe it will be in ALL of them soon.

that sounds REALLY sketchy- you can't just bring the cops a box full of guns, so you get your slimy friends to bring them in one at a time?

i'd think that WOULD be illegal- maybe there's some kinda cop reading this thread who might get an idea to poke around the classifieds and see what's going on.

thanks for the heads up!

i mentioned that before to someone- the cops should start buying up every cheap gun in the classifieds + online and melting them down.
i'm sure they could outbid you!

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #39)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:30 PM

41. Isn't that the point of a gun buyback?

Gun buyback: Sell guns here for preset prices. Guns are off the street and a consumer made a profit.

You have to remember something, mate. Guns, like anything else, are commodities. There are folks who bulk-bought AR-15s, pre-Sandy Hook, essentially waiting for them to appreciate in value. Those same people earned back 400-500% on each gun thanks to the current gun-rush; gun speculators, if you will. It's similar to the stock market, but in firearms.

As a personal anecdote, I picked up a Mosin Nagant not too very long ago for forty bucks. The same gun is worth around a hundred and ten to the right casual buyer, but because it's matched (and the seller didn't check the stamping), it's worth significantly more than that. Likewise, there are people that bulk-buy Mosins and kitbash them to be worth more than they bought them for. It's as much an industrial as a commercial venture.


In regards to the buyback; We semi-recently had a buyback up here that guaranteed freedom from prosecution regarding any firearm turned in. Likewise, the Seattle buyback was, to my knowledge, "no questions asked". It's basically a "Get out of jail free", if you can offload your firearm there. I thought that was common practice for buybacks.


In regards to legality; So long as you have a guy with an FFL, selling broken/damaged/unworkable firearms for a profit is perfectly legal. Even if it wasn't, what's your problem with it? Guns are getting off the street. Isn't that the point?

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #41)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:53 PM

43. really? the point of a buyback is to make a profit and not remove guns from circulation?

the money is donated, the people get grocery cards.

those same people earned back 400-500% on each gun thanks to the current gun-rush; gun speculators, if you will. It's similar to the stock market, but in firearms.

that is preposterous and should be illegal, of course. great, people make 500% profits on the black market.
that is just the way the nra wants it, good for you!

wow, you bought a gun and made money off it. pay any tax? keep any records?

Regarding the evidence-destruction complaint Ector made outside the event, Stephens said: "We're going to run the guns... and before the guns are destroyed they will be run for ballistics to see if they've been used in any other crimes."

Stephens said the department is running the serial numbers of all of the guns accepted during the event and owners of any stolen guns will be notified.

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2012/08/gun_advocates_offer_to_outbid.html

The police program paid gun owners between $25 and $100 for their guns.
"These guys out here are willing to double and triple that," said Rick Ector, 44, a Detroit gun rights activist who helped plan the protest.
The offers fell upon mostly deaf ears, as few crossed the street to inquire about the premium buyback offers the activists were making.
The reason, several of them theorized, was the police response to their efforts.
Between the activists and residents awaiting to sell their unwanted guns, stood a row of five police in the center of the street.
"The police are obviously putting a wall, a barricade, between us and the people who are in line," Ector said. "It's a form of intimidation."
Ector and others said gun buyback events unfairly "demonize" guns.



how does some gun lover poaching a gun from the cops and selling it with no BG check get anything off the street?

i honestly have no idea why one would do that, it sounds immoral and greedy to me.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #43)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 01:05 PM

45. See, I didn't know that about the Seattle turnover.

The bit about serial numbers, that is. It's good to know that's in place; out here, it's less secure, offering freedom from prosecution (which my coworkers and I were a bit taken aback by; it seems like a good way for a murderer or other type of gun-violence perp to get away with crimes. )

In regards to the profitable part (with buybacks), the guns are getting off the street entirely. They're being turned in, removed from circulation, and otherwise being put out of the hands of the civilian populace. And... now that's bad, because it's being done for a profit?


that is preposterous and should be illegal, of course. great, people make 500% profits on the black market.
that is just the way the nra wants it, good for you!


So it should be illegal to buy a product and, when it appreciates in value, sell it through fair trade?


wow, you bought a gun and made money off it. pay any tax? keep any records?

Most of those engaged in firearm speculation do in fact keep accurate records and pay taxes just like any other person, running it effectively as a small business, operating through appropriately legal channels. Others will buy smaller lots of firearms and then sell them, with appropriate background checks and FFL, through gun shows at a higher rate than they could get on the independent market.

And who said anything about poaching guns from cops? I'm not supporting the guys on the street trying to buy the gun buyback weapons, that's downright scummy and overly politically motivated. Don't lump me in with those martians.

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Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 02:00 PM

47. 2,500 guns turned in in NJ. look at the freakin picture!

http://www.trentonian.com/article/20130126/NEWS01/130129745/mercer-gun-buyback-nets-over-2-500-guns

so that's what a STREETSWEEPER looks like.

sure, 2nd amendment, blah blah unlimited my ass.

there's one that should be banned from existing in north and south america at least.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #47)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:32 PM

56. limit the magazine size

and it is any standard semi-automatic shotgun, most hold 2-10 shells

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #56)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:43 PM

60. limit the mag size? at a buyback?

you're kind of all over the place today, dude.
that gun is already banned under the NFA, but that one in the pic looks kinda new.

my point being, guns designed for riot control and combat really have no place in a home.

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #60)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:49 PM

62. No not at the buyback

of that model of shotgun

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #62)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:08 PM

67. that won't work

so guess will have to BAN that one outright.

like i said, in north and south america.

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