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Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:21 PM

Filibuster Reform Ends With A Whimper: How It Fell Apart - TPMDC

Filibuster Reform Ends With A Whimper: How It Fell Apart
SAHIL KAPUR - TPMDC
JANUARY 25, 2013, 6:04 AM

For true believers, filibuster reform was about making it painful, if not impossible, for a Senate minority to obstruct governance by the majority. But it didn’t come anywhere near that, leaving reformers deeply disappointed.

The final agreement reached by leaders Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell and passed overwhelmingly by the Senate Thursday evening did not weaken the filibuster. It essentially served to move uncontroversial Senate business more quickly. Democratic senators roundly backed it — even the ones who were eager to end silent filibusters. Republicans didn’t object either.

How did it all fall apart?

According to conversations with pro-reform Democratic aides, party leadership sources and outside opponents of the filibuster, Reid’s main goal was ultimately not to weaken the 60-vote threshold that reformers desperately wanted to change. Instead his objective was to eliminate mandatory gaps between votes in order to move legislation and nominees that have cleared a filibuster more quickly — which he achieved.

For reformers, the beginning of the end was Thursday of last week.

One outside pro-reform source told TPM that Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) called him that day to say that despite all his efforts, the “talking filibuster” proposal he championed was essentially dead — that Democratic leadership relayed to him that it didn’t have the votes.


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Reformers in and out of the Senate believe that Reid tapped into their enthusiasm to advance his goal. “Reid said he wants to make it easier to move on bills,” said a pro-reform aide. “This doesn’t do that. He still has to negotiate with McConnell to get on a bill. It’s a negligible difference to how the Senate operates today.”

The outside reform source accused Reid of “a total 180 reversal.”

“Everything we were seeing led us to believe … that he was very serious about including ,” the source said. “But that all hinged on him using the constitutional option, which I don’t think he ever really intended to do.”


More: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/filibuster-reform-tick-tock.php






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WillyT Jan 2013 OP
DJ13 Jan 2013 #1
WillyT Jan 2013 #3
Junkdrawer Jan 2013 #2
still_one Jan 2013 #4
markpkessinger Jan 2013 #15
upaloopa Jan 2013 #5
rhett o rick Jan 2013 #6
stultusporcos Jan 2013 #10
WillyT Jan 2013 #7
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #8
xchrom Jan 2013 #9
Kablooie Jan 2013 #11
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #12
Stuart G Jan 2013 #17
WillyT Jan 2013 #18
markpkessinger Jan 2013 #13
markpkessinger Jan 2013 #14
Stuart G Jan 2013 #16
senseandsensibility Jan 2013 #19
SHRED Jan 2013 #20
arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #21

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:22 PM

1. K&R

Mind if I join in?

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Response to DJ13 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:35 PM

3. Not At All !!!




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:28 PM

2. One of these days, Republicans are going to get pissed about having to share the Corporate Money....

with Democrats and they're going to vote FOR populist legislation and force Corporate Democrats to step up and play the Bad Guys for a while.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:37 PM

4. Took a lot of courage for Feinstein to introduce the assault weapon ban knowing it would not pass

Last edited Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:16 PM - Edit history (1)

With the filibuster agreement

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Response to still_one (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:43 AM

15. Touché! n/t

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:42 PM

5. If repukes get control of the Senate they

will do filibuster reform. Our party constantly turn chances at progressive movement into regressive movement.
What good is Obama's speech if we let the right dictate the direction we are heading?

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:31 PM

6. It fits the oligarchs plan to a T. The Pres gets to look great with his rhetoric and

Congress can obstruct anything that might help the masses. As a body, the Democrats in the Senate didnt want to reform. Then they would have no excuse.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:27 AM

10. The Pres is Party Leader he is in on it too

 


Only to those not paying attention does the Pres look good that is why he gave a good speech, he knew it was meaningless that will result in nothing meaningful happening. Nice and safe and Harry and the other Corporate Dems will give the Pres plenty of cover to make the cheerleaders happy with his fancy meaningless words.


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:00 AM

7. Kick !!!


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:15 AM

8. "Can you count to sixty?"

I'm looking forward to hearing that a lot over the next four years.

I think we can count on it.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:24 AM

9. Du rec. Nt

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:25 AM

11. Never *ever* believe a politician no matter how fervently he professes.

Or how sincere he seems.
That seems to be the one constant in all politics, left or right.

You will feel like a fool every single time you do.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.
Fool me 3 times shame on me,
Fool me 4 times shame on me.
...
Fool me 4,327 times shame on me.
Fool me 4,328 times shame on me.
Fool me 4,329 times shame on me.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:28 AM

12. Once you can fake sincerity you've got it made

"I feel your pain."

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:30 PM

17. How true what Kablooie has said above...how true..nt

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:34 PM

18. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And Thank You !!!


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:39 AM

13. K&R n/t

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:42 AM

14. Reid totally gamed progressives -- and the American people

He's a duplicitous liar!

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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 08:26 PM

16. Let us kick this one up..needs to be told again...K and R....nt

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:36 PM

19. kick

This story is still making me ill.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:39 PM

20. They give us lip service and...

...then they protect the status quo.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:47 PM

21. This is so depressing. n/t

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