Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:56 PM
Archae (26,375 posts)
ABC News showed a big problem in the gun debate...
Namely, stolen guns.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/hot-guns-fueling-crime-us-study/story?id=18318610 This is a big problem.
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14 replies, 782 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| Archae | Jan 2013 | OP | |
| alcibiades_mystery | Jan 2013 | #1 | |
| BlueJazz | Jan 2013 | #3 | |
| krispos42 | Jan 2013 | #5 | |
| dsc | Jan 2013 | #10 | |
| krispos42 | Jan 2013 | #11 | |
| ProgressiveProfessor | Jan 2013 | #12 | |
| dsc | Jan 2013 | #13 | |
| OneTenthofOnePercent | Jan 2013 | #9 | |
| TheCowsCameHome | Jan 2013 | #14 | |
| oh08dem | Jan 2013 | #2 | |
| Archae | Jan 2013 | #4 | |
| oh08dem | Jan 2013 | #8 | |
| Enrique | Jan 2013 | #6 | |
| OneTenthofOnePercent | Jan 2013 | #7 |
Response to Archae (Original post)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:01 AM
alcibiades_mystery (28,410 posts)
1. It would be wonderful if we had some kind of, uh, I dunno
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registry or something, where every gun was tracked, and then if it was stolen, we could compile, like, I dunno, statistics or data on that, and track how these things are, y'know, like, kinda like disseminated or circulated through different communities. of, geez, if only such a thing were possible! If only there were some mechanism for figuring out who owned a gun and when, when it changed hands, if it was ever lost or stolen, what its progress was after that and from the time it was recovered! Oh, if only such a miraculous set of protocols could exist.
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/politics/2013/01/9-questions-researchers-may-now-be-able-answer-about-urban-gun-violence/4418/ |
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:06 AM
BlueJazz (17,763 posts)
3. We'll just have to wait until some sort of calculating thing-a-ma-jig is invented.
Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:07 AM
krispos42 (45,148 posts)
5. If it's stolen, then by definition it become unregistered.
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So I fail to see how this helps anything.
In addition, you can't bust a prohibited person from owning an unregistered gun. You can bust them for own or possessing a gun, but not for failing to registering their gun. |
Response to krispos42 (Reply #5)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:17 AM
dsc (39,384 posts)
10. the gun still has a serial number
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but thanks to the NRA gun stores don't have to take inventories.
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Response to dsc (Reply #10)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:19 AM
krispos42 (45,148 posts)
11. Well, that is something that needs to be fixed, then
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But I was talking about post-sale registration.
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Response to dsc (Reply #10)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:26 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
12. Ahhh...not entirely true
Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #12)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:27 AM
dsc (39,384 posts)
13. what part isn't true
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that guns have serial numbers or that gun stores aren't required to take an inventory.
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #1)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:15 AM
OneTenthofOnePercent (6,268 posts)
9. It's not like the guy who stole the weapon is going to register it.
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It falls entirely off the map until it turns up later at a crime-scene. For all the cops know, Rand Paul could have been using for snuggling to keep warm with at night and snort up shirly-temple shots. ...
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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #9)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:37 AM
TheCowsCameHome (27,699 posts)
14. Or use it to do harm
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Response to Archae (Original post)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:05 AM
oh08dem (207 posts)
2. The NRA response...
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Gun owners that have their guns stolen need to buy more guns to replace the stolen ones... And people that don't already have guns need to buy guns to shoot the people that stole other gun owners guns.
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Response to oh08dem (Reply #2)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:06 AM
Archae (26,375 posts)
4. Of course.
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Why do you think I call the NRA the "GSA?"
(Gun Sales Association) |
Response to Archae (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:13 AM
oh08dem (207 posts)
8. I'm guessing NRA membership is quite high with those that
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believe the south should have won the Civil War ... maybe our side should highlight the fact that the NRA started out to train Union army members how to shoot...
I'm sure you see where I'm going with this. |
Response to Archae (Original post)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:07 AM
Enrique (22,626 posts)
6. for example the guns Adam Lanza used n/t
Response to Archae (Original post)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:11 AM
OneTenthofOnePercent (6,268 posts)
7. It's a good thing criminals can't get a list of names/addresses of where to find & steal guns!
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Last edited Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:16 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Oh, wait... in some cities they can.
And numerous people on DU cheered this newspaper's actions... N.Y. news site stirs outrage after publishing gun owners' names: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-newspaper-gun-owners-20121226,0,2883615.story |

