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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy 'friend': "I was for Gingrich."
He used to be my friend.
We were squadron mates in the air national guard in the 60s.
We were young then, and hotshot fighter pilots.
We were hell on wheels.
He was my best man at my wedding.
I guess we were apolitical back then.
Politics was never a topic of conversation.
50 years later he lives just down the street from me.
Every morning we meet for a 3 mile walk.
I'm 71, he is 72.
Gotta keep moving.
Use it or lose it.
In later life I came to learn that he was very right wing. I think he watches (and believes it) Fox News. And listens to Rush.
In spite of all this we remained friends.
Until a few weeks ago when I brought up something about the 'birthers'.
And then he floored me.
"I don't believe he's an American."
"REALLY? SERIOUSLY YOU DON'T?"
"No."
And then the whole birth certificate thing.
I just quit talking. You can't argue with these people.
Yesterday we were talking about the last campaign.
I said that I thought the Republicans could have done much better than Rmoney. Portman, for example.
"I liked Gingrich. I voted for him in the primary."
It's just damn sad when someone you used to like and be very close to goes totally stupid.
Shit.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)why do you have to end the friendship? Does he have other redeeming qualities?
trof
(54,256 posts)I learned a couple of years ago where he was/is politically.
And I just quit talking politics with him.
For a time I thought I could kind of 'bring him along'.
No. Way.
Redeeming qualities?
He's a devout Methodist who still calls blacks "niggers in casual conversation.
He is a world traveled (retired) airline pilot who evidently learned nothing about acceptance of different cultures.
He worked in Saudi Arabia for a couple of years and called them "ragheads" and "sand niggers".
ha-ha
I suffer him now only because of our past relationship.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)Politics is easy enough to avoid, but I couldn't take that racism.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)to know what purpose this bozo still serves in your life or what emotional need he satisfies.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,534 posts)Some people get smarter as they age, and some just solidify.
It is damn sad.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)It's aways sad to lose a friend.
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)Many of us would be very isolated if we just limited ourselves to people who agreed with our political views.
I don't discuss politics with very many unless they bring it up and I find ourselves in relative agreement.
There's no point in trying to change others opinion when they don't want to be changed. It only irritates them and they might say something that would cause me to dislike them, not just their opinion.
I had to give up taking a noncredit course discussing current events because so many stupid thoughts were voiced that I lost respect for those speaking them and would go over it in my head for a day or two.
That's one of the reasons I come to DU every day to get my nourishing supplement, just like taking my vitamins, etc. daily.
trof
(54,256 posts)Welcome to DU.
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)Yes, I did come to a good place.
BTW - Your friend could have been worse - He could have voted for Bachmann, Santorum, or the pizza guy.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)That is just how I feel. It IS like taking my political vitamin supplement every day. LOL
Cirque du So-What
(25,908 posts)with a guy I've known for around 15 years. Talk turned to politics and he expressed support for Noot - along with some decidedly teabaggy views on an array issues. Our conversation didn't escalate to the shouting phase, but I let him know how & why I thought he was full of shit. I'm sure our paths will cross again, and I'll be sorely tempted to do my 'I told ya so!' dance.
Dan
(3,539 posts)You have traveled a long time together,
You don't have to agree with everything,
but, ultimately, he is your friend...
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)And he would likely come through for you in a pinch -Not necessarily money, but emergencies and just plain help when needed- as you would for him.
trof
(54,256 posts)I can't feel 'friendly' to people I don't respect.
And I no longer have any respect for him.
I pity him and his ignorant, bigoted mindset.
It's just no fun to hang out with people who are willfully ignorant.
Try talking intelligently to a wild-ass conspiracy theorist.
I will practice 'tolerance'.
That's the best I can do.
stultusporcos
(327 posts)life has reached its end.
You need to move on life is to short.
No Vested Interest
(5,164 posts)But there comes a time when one knows the preciousness of old friends, especially when their numbers begin to thin out.
stultusporcos
(327 posts)these two are on different paths right now perhaps their paths will cross in the future.
Everything also happens for a reason and both have not realized what that reason is.
I have friends all over the world and one thing we all have in common is we never say goodbye, typically we say see you later to each other. We could go decades with out seeing each other and we don't really talk or email either, we are just in and out of each others lives at the right time for each of us.
It is the journey we happen to be on.
trof
(54,256 posts)I'll just never feel the same way about him.