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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:23 PM

This Arizona Sheriff on Al Sharpton is stupid beyond

belief. He cannot present one argument showing that Obama's Executive Orders re gun control is unconstitutional - just opinionated bullshit.

Al Sharpton just stole his lunch - not one example - what a fool.

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Reply This Arizona Sheriff on Al Sharpton is stupid beyond (Original post)
malaise Jan 2013 OP
BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #1
JoeBlowToo Jan 2013 #2
Initech Jan 2013 #3
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #6
Initech Jan 2013 #11
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #13
KharmaTrain Jan 2013 #18
BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #8
backscatter712 Jan 2013 #9
Hard Assets Jan 2013 #14
virgogal Jan 2013 #4
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #5
nc4bo Jan 2013 #7
malaise Jan 2013 #10
Archae Jan 2013 #12
malaise Jan 2013 #15
Archae Jan 2013 #16
malaise Jan 2013 #17
SayWut Jan 2013 #19

Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:24 PM

1. That guy is an arrogant dumb fuck.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:27 PM

2. Not stupid, just obstinately clinging to the right wing memes...

 

which become articles of faith and no facts will change their minds.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:27 PM

3. Was it Joe Arpaio? Yeah he's an arrogant blow hard.

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Response to Initech (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:29 PM

6. Nope...another, younger skinhead type.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:35 PM

11. Is there any Arizona sheriff who's not a complete ass??

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Response to Initech (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:37 PM

13. I don't think so...

I am soooooo happy I don't live there.

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Response to Initech (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:41 PM

18. Yes...Pima County (Tucson) Sheriff Clarence Dupnik

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Response to Initech (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:30 PM

8. No, not Arpaio. It was Pinal Country Sheriff Paul Babeu. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:32 PM

9. Ah. He's another weapons-grade asshole. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:43 PM

14. A homophobic GAY sheriff.

 

He was outed a few years ago.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:28 PM

4. Huh? Where? When?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:28 PM

5. He's in competition with Arpaio n/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:30 PM

7. Al handled him pretty good though. What an ass that guy was.

Get on a national tv show to look like an pure fool. He needs to go sit down somewhere.

Al stole his lunch, dinner and dessert.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:35 PM

10. Al really tore him a new one

Hilarious - I love how confidently these buffoons spew this shite.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:37 PM

12. Same guy who threatened his Mexican boyfriend to keep him quiet.

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Response to Archae (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:19 PM

15. Didn't remember that

He threatened him with deportation right????

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Response to malaise (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:34 PM

16. Yes he did.

And this isn't the only person Babeau has pulled stuff on.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/25/paul-babeu-scandal_n_1301185.html

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Response to Archae (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:37 PM

17. He's not very bright

Sharpton tore him to shreds

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:35 AM

19. For the record, Obama did not specifically issue any EO's regarding firearms or gun control

 

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders

In his speech to the nation, he spoke of 23 "executive actions"...

These are a few of the 23 executive actions that Iím announcing today. But as important as these steps are, they are in no way a substitute for action from members of Congress. To make a real and lasting difference, Congress, too, must act -- and Congress must act soon. And Iím calling on Congress to pass some very specific proposals right away.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/remarks-president-and-vice-president-gun-violence


He did however, issue 3 Presidential Memoranda on the issue...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-engaging-public-health-research-causes-and-pre-0

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-improving-availability-relevant-executive-branch

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/01/16/presidential-memorandum-tracing-firearms-connection-criminal-investigati

The difference between the two (executive order, presidential memoranda), is a subtle one, issued for the purpose of being less controversial and easier to swallow.

Another executive tool which has raised many questions is the presidential memoranda. Although they possess a different title than executive orders, it appears as though these instruments are very much alike. Both are undefined, written instruments by which the president directs, and governs actions by, Government officials and agencies. They differ in that executive orders must be published in the Federal Register whereas presidential memoranda are similarly published only if the President determines that they have a "general applicability and legal effect." .... In at least one instance, a federal district court seemed to use the two terms interchangeably.


Basically, for all intents and purposes, a memorandum is an executive order. However, since executive orders are a particularly controversial and politically charged lever of presidential power (the mere mention of them has inspired talk of impeachment among some of Congress's more firebrand Republicans), it's important to note that they (or something exactly like them) comprised only three of the items on Obama's list of 23 "executive actions."


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/01/obama-23-executive-orders-actions-gun-control.html

So, are these 3 "Presidential Memoranda" unconstitional?
IMHO, no (disclaimer, I'm neither a Constitutional scholar or lawyer, and for that matter neither am I a Western sheriff or talk show Reverend).

They're simply instructions/orders to the relevant agencies of the Executive branch to carry out new guidelines.

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