Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:35 PM
NightWatcher (17,746 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Newt to Bob Dole "Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?"
Dole: "it saves them time"
http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2012/01/26/bob-dole-says-newt-gingrich-nomination-will-have-adverse-effect-gop/IuV2cwR0eRqGOeo18ACcsJ/story.html “If Gingrich is the nominee, it will have an adverse impact on Republican candidates running for county, state, and federal offices,” Bob Dole wrote. “Hardly anyone who served with Newt in Congress has endorsed him, and that fact speaks for itself. He was a one-man-band who rarely took advice. It was his way or the highway.” The former Senate majority leader, whose tenure overlapped with that of Gingrich from 1995 until he ran for president a year later, said his House counterpart “had a new idea every minute and most of them were off the wall. He loved picking a fight with Bill Clinton because he knew this would get the attention of the press. This and a myriad of other specifics helped to topple Gingrich in 1998.”
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| NightWatcher | Jan 26 | OP | |
| gateley | Jan 26 | #1 | |
| CanonRay | Jan 26 | #2 | |
| bemildred | Jan 26 | #3 | |
| Zambero | Jan 27 | #25 | |
| bemildred | Jan 27 | #28 | |
| MineralMan | Jan 26 | #4 | |
| Happyhippychick | Jan 26 | #5 | |
| hifiguy | Jan 26 | #6 | |
| stlsaxman | Jan 26 | #7 | |
| The Genealogist | Jan 26 | #8 | |
| davidpdx | Jan 27 | #22 | |
| TheCowsCameHome | Jan 26 | #9 | |
| hifiguy | Jan 26 | #12 | |
| fascisthunter | Jan 26 | #10 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Jan 26 | #11 | |
| bleever | Jan 26 | #13 | |
| Gabi Hayes | Jan 26 | #14 | |
| MADem | Jan 26 | #16 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Jan 27 | #24 | |
| BlueMTexpat | Jan 27 | #21 | |
| MADem | Jan 26 | #15 | |
| libmom74 | Jan 26 | #17 | |
| 47of74 | Jan 26 | #18 | |
| RZM | Jan 26 | #19 | |
| UTUSN | Jan 26 | #20 | |
| Botany | Jan 27 | #23 | |
| Zambero | Jan 27 | #26 | |
| Initech | Jan 27 | #27 |
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:37 PM
gateley (56,233 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Scathing and right-on! nt
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:37 PM
CanonRay (3,563 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. He sounds a lot like Eric Cantor
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:39 PM
bemildred (60,546 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. Like Tom DeLay without the wit or charm. nt
Response to bemildred (Reply #3)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:23 PM
Zambero (1,901 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
25. As for "electability", like Goldwater without the integrity
Response to Zambero (Reply #25)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:47 PM
bemildred (60,546 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
28. I have been thinking about Goldwater a lot lately.
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Well said, BTW, and right on.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:40 PM
MineralMan (40,809 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. Because you are the used condom of politics.
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That's why...
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:42 PM
Happyhippychick (4,633 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. Cuz you're instantly dislikable
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:49 PM
hifiguy (5,411 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. It saves us the time of deciding to hate you later.
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That's why. And because your're a four-door, megalomaniacal, brass-plated ambulatory turd.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:52 PM
stlsaxman (8,086 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. Hopefully Dole is too late in his protestations... because he is absolutely correct!
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“If Gingrich is the nominee, it will have an adverse impact on Republican candidates running for county, state, and federal offices,” Bob Dole wrote.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:54 PM
The Genealogist (993 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
8. "loved picking a fight with Bill Clinton because he knew this would get the attention of the press"
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Newt is such a shameless narcissist. "He was a one-man-band who rarely took advice. It was his way or the highway." This statement only backs that up. Pretty scathing indictment of Newton. And it isn't like this is coming from Ted Kennedy; it's Bob Dole ferchrissakes.
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Response to The Genealogist (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 07:40 AM
davidpdx (4,377 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. Scathing indeed
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Seeing Bob Dole come out and say Gingrich picked a fight with Clinton kills Gingrich's creditably.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:55 PM
TheCowsCameHome (24,049 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
9. It's a normal reaction, just like breathing.
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Last edited Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:56 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Newt is a magnet for contempt, and deservedly so.
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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #9)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:12 PM
hifiguy (5,411 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. He invites abuse.
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It would be impolite not to oblige him.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 04:55 PM
fascisthunter (26,190 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. "Because you are a sociopath who hasn't learned to fake empathy."
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:08 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (12,492 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. Link to the quote below. Oh this is fucking delicious:
Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #11)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:45 PM
bleever (20,321 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
13. Great piece about Gingrich's prior slams on Reagan,
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even if the above quote is apocryphal, as Mark Shields says.
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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #11)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 05:47 PM
Gabi Hayes (21,110 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. nice find. quite a site....the aggressively ignorant denizens haunting the place are something....
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did you read any of the comments? most of them are delusional at best. here's a typical example:
''I'm old enough to remember real history and that was Contract with America, with Newt at the helm. Newt is in fact the only true leader who did in fact balance our budget...imagine that for a moment! '' |
Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #14)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:32 PM
MADem (68,191 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. Probably a Newt astroturfer at work. Hell, I remember that too--we called it the
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"Contract ON America!"
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Response to Gabi Hayes (Reply #14)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:35 AM
Guy Whitey Corngood (12,492 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. I hadn't but now I'm gonna have to. Just like eating a tub of ice cream it sounds tempting but I
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know I'll end up regretting it.
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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #11)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:56 AM
BlueMTexpat (2,082 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
21. Thanks for the link!
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I especially enjoyed this part.
"Why do people take such an instant dislike to me?" asked a perplexed Gingrich, to whom Dole bluntly explained: "Because it saves them time." |
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 06:31 PM
MADem (68,191 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. I was on the Hill a lot during Newt's time in the catbird seat, and Dole is not wrong in his
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assessment of the guy. He says it very cleverly, with his typical dry wit, but the bottom line is that Newton was a blowhard, an asshole, a smug little shithead, and the reason his wife (at the time) got clued into what was going on with him and Callista was because his very own STAFF ratted him out. Many of them were actively looking for other positions well before Newt got in hot water. Apparently it was a toxic work environment.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 08:35 PM
libmom74 (596 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. I never thought I would agree with Bob Dole.
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:09 PM
47of74 (5,278 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
18. Bob Dole thinks Bob Dole ought..
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...to stop referring to Bob Dole in the third person!
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:19 PM
RZM (4,715 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
19. I think the Boehner dislikes him too
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Sobbing John hitched his wagon to the 'Contract with America' star and when that failed, his reward was getting bounced to the back of the line. He's never forgiven Newt for that. It doesn't look like Newt is somebody who can inspire much loyalty, which is a pretty essential quality for an executive. W. may have been a bad president, but he was at least able to do that.
It might sound strange, but I'm finding more and more similarities between Newt and Gorbachev, of all people. Gorby was also pretty bad at inspiring loyalty. People close to him in politics often ended up feeling frustrated and betrayed. He was also an 'ideas guy' with a lot of not so great ideas. He also saw himself as an agent of change and watched his plans blow up in his face. He also saw his own crew turn on him. |
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Thu Jan 26, 2012, 09:21 PM
UTUSN (32,214 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. R#26 & K for, DOLE: "It saves them time." n/t
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:08 AM
Botany (33,161 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. Bob Dole knows what Bob Dole means
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" (Newt) had a new idea every minute and most of them were off the wall. "
aka Newt had a lot of bad ideas. ![]() |
Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:28 PM
Zambero (1,901 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
26. How & why did the GOP allow Newt a leadership position to begin with?
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There's lots of "buyer's remorse" surfacing these days amongst his former associates.
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Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:29 PM
Initech (30,303 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
27. Cause he cheated on his wife while passing DOMA?
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Last edited Fri Jan 27, 2012, 05:30 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Because he cheated on his wife while trying to get Bill Clintion impeached for adultery?
And that is without including the hilarious idiocy surround his proposed plans to scrap child labor laws and replace janitors with poor kids and building a theme park with log rides on the moon. Newt is a hypocritical piece of crap and a true scumbag to the very core. But Dole is right - if he's the nominee they will lose big everywhere, and I really hope he's right. |

