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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:03 PM

Mississippi begins secession from U.S. and renews segregationist "Sovereignty Commission"

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130125/NEWS010504/301250044/States-rights-pushed-bill-would-assert-sovereignty-state-?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1


More than a half century ago, Mississippi created a state Sovereignty Commission to block enforcement of federal laws.

Now two key state lawmakers are introducing legislation to attempt to do much the same thing. House Bill 490 would create a committee to help neutralize federal laws and regulations “outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government in the United States Constitution.”

Robert McElvaine, professor of history at Millsaps College, said all this bill will accomplish is to put Mississippi up for ridicule. “ ‘The Neutralization of Federal Law’?” he said. “I am astounded to see such a measure introduced in the 21st century. Do the authors of the bill see Mississippi as part of the United States


Dear White Mississippians: Your side lost the civil war and the civil rights era. Suck on it.

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Reply Mississippi begins secession from U.S. and renews segregationist "Sovereignty Commission" (Original post)
geek tragedy Jan 2013 OP
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #1
RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #3
MineralMan Jan 2013 #4
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #6
MineralMan Jan 2013 #9
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #10
Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #22
bluedigger Jan 2013 #5
RKP5637 Jan 2013 #7
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #8
Oilwellian Jan 2013 #19
Bigmack Jan 2013 #32
Recursion Jan 2013 #29
sadbear Jan 2013 #11
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #13
geomon666 Jan 2013 #17
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #18
klook Jan 2013 #27
Recursion Jan 2013 #31
jpak Jan 2013 #12
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #14
nyquil_man Jan 2013 #15
we can do it Jan 2013 #16
wandy Jan 2013 #20
indepat Jan 2013 #21
SpartanDem Jan 2013 #23
IDemo Jan 2013 #24
0rganism Jan 2013 #25
Old and In the Way Jan 2013 #33
bluestateguy Jan 2013 #26
loudsue Jan 2013 #28
rickjliberal1946sef Jan 2013 #30
aquart Jan 2013 #34
Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #37
Bake Jan 2013 #40
Bigmack Jan 2013 #35
Initech Jan 2013 #36
okaawhatever Jan 2013 #38
steve2470 Jan 2013 #39
RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #41

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

1. More on the historical parallels with segregationist Mississippi

The Joint Legislative Committee on the Neutralization of Federal Laws would be made up of the lieutenant governor, six lawmakers appointed by him, the speaker of the House and six lawmakers appointed by him.

The Sovereignty Commission was made up of the governor, three citizens appointed by him, the lieutenant governor, two lawmakers appointed by him, the speaker of the House, three lawmakers appointed by him and the attorney general. (The state Supreme Court has ruled that those in the executive branch are barred from serving on legislative committees.)

Lawmakers created the commission in 1956, giving it broad law enforcement and judicial powers to “perform any and all acts and things deemed necessary and proper to protect the sovereignty of the State of Mississippi, and her sister states, from encroachment thereon by the Federal Government or any branch.”

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:11 PM

2. >>> "all this bill will accomplish is to put Mississippi up for ridicule." n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:13 PM

3. Well, unless they're willing to pick up their guns again, of course that's all it will accomplish.

We'll see how far they take things down there.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:13 PM

4. Many bills are introduced in state legislatures.

Many fewer are passed. This one will be one that doesn't pass.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:15 PM

6. These are two high-ranking members--committee chairmen of the Insurance and Ways

and Means committees.

This is a mainstream idea amongst white/Republican voters in Mississippi.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:16 PM

9. It's a publicity stunt. It won't ever become law.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:17 PM

10. Well, sure, because it would be declared unconstitutional by a federal court the nanosecond

it became law.

The only thing that keeps them respecting federal law is the US army.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:01 PM

22. That still doesn't mean people shouldn't talk about it

and publicly oppose it.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:14 PM

5. What's their financial plan?

Toll booths on I-20 at the Alabama and Louisiana borders?

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:15 PM

7. ...

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:15 PM

8. I'm gonna guess there'd be a lot more outbound tolls than inbound. nt

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:27 PM

19. And...

will we need a passport? LOL

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Response to Oilwellian (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:21 PM

32. ... and your shots. God knows what diseases will flourish there when they leave. nt

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Response to bluedigger (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:19 PM

29. Forestry, shipbuilding, and oil refining are their big ones

Jokes aside (and I grew up there, and am daily tempted to say "good riddance" when somebody tries something like this), the Gulf Coast is on its way to being a new economic powerhouse.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:18 PM

11. It's already been shown that Texas would suffer economically if it seceded.

Mississippi's economy would be on par with some Central Asian Republic if it seceded.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:20 PM

13. I'd much rather live in Mongolia than the Republic of Mississippi. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:25 PM

17. The food is probably better in Mongolia n/t

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:26 PM

18. Less pollution and fewer Republicans.

Plus yaks and yurts.

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:13 PM

27. I wouldn't be too sure about that.

Weidmann's in Meridian has peanut butter jars on every table, which is a pretty good start in my book.



I guess Mongolian food is OK if you like boiled mutton and fermented mare's milk.

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:20 PM

31. Oh I certainly disagree. Mississippi pulled pork barbecue is the best food in the nation

The finest is found at Lil Dooey's in Starkville, but true barbecue can be found as far west as Greenville, and as far north as Corinth.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:19 PM

12. Good - no more federal dollars for MS. No military bases or fed. contracts

and next Katrina - you are on your own.

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:20 PM

14. Well, they still want to suck off the federal teat. They just want to declare themselves

unbeholden to federal law.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:23 PM

15. Dig up Ross Barnett, while you're at it.

I'm sure he'd be happy to help.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:24 PM

16. Just go away, then.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:36 PM

20. Mississippi, one more candidate for NON federal funding....

Sure, go ahead and shoot you're self I don't mind...
But Mississippi may be getting the last laugh and the big bucks. The Daily Beast has crunched the numbers, and Mississippi is No. 1 in terms of the amount of federal money it gets for the amount of tax dollars it sends to Washington, D.C.
It gets $2.83 for every dollar sent East.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2011/04/05/mississippi-is-first-at-fed-spending-trough-daily-beast/
Good to see that some Teapublicans are finally getting serious about debt reduction.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:58 PM

21. Dear White Mississippians: Justice Scalia has stated to the effect that if the Civil War had

settled one thing, it is that there is no right to succession. Now go suck on that before you have to be taught a good lesson.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:48 PM

23. Someone needs to reanimate Sherman, they clearly didn't get message the first time

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:59 PM

24. 21st century?

It will be 1860 for a long time to come in much of the South.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:04 PM

25. So they'd give up reps in congress and their electoral votes...

Could be a net gain for the US, really. Especially if Alabama follows suite.

Sure would suck to be a resident of this new Christian Pakistan, though.

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:21 PM

33. It would make for a grand, socio-economic-political lesson for Conservative teabaggers.

I'd say, give them the boot and stop sending US taxdollars to Mississippi. Lets see what kind of libertarian paradise is created.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:11 PM

26. The paper is not letting me in

No, I am not going to pay for a subscription to the Clarion-Ledger.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:16 PM

28. The extreme majority of GOPers are too stupid to be embarrassed by their actions.

They so totally don't get it that they think they're being smart. They are incapable of figuring it out.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:20 PM

30. Oh for f#*ks sake!

 

Obama won, you idjits. Get over it. You're only making a fool of yourselves.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:25 PM

34. Isn't Mississippi a federal cash grabber?

Send 'em a bill.

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Response to aquart (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:44 PM

37. Yep...as are most of the red states in the south.

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Response to aquart (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 03:10 PM

40. Better yet, cut them OFF and listen to them HOWL.

Bake

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:26 PM

35. With so many whackjob states muttering about secession...

... we need to set up a refugee commission for the good people who leave those blighted areas.

Us blue-staters need to scout around for housing and jobs for those refugees ... now, while we have a little time.

I volunteer to open my home to a refugee family while they get on their feet.

The good Dems in those states are victims, folks. As surely as Katrina victims.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:40 PM

36. How do they expect to run their no government government?

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:52 PM

38. Stir up hate and fear. Keep anti-Obama in the news. How many minutes would it take for them to

be declared a second world country?

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 03:07 PM

39. This is really stupid to the point of being insane

The voters need to retire these fools.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 04:38 PM

41. Why is it that these

Taker states, who get back more than they put into the Federal budget want to secede?
They are already making a profit on their Federal taxes, they would be fools to do it.

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