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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:44 AM

Hillary 2016

She is measured, bright, and doesn't back down.

I will help draft her for 2016. She is the lady we need.

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Reply Hillary 2016 (Original post)
Aerows Jan 2013 OP
Aerows Jan 2013 #1
quinnox Jan 2013 #2
Aerows Jan 2013 #4
gopiscrap Jan 2013 #7
Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2013 #3
Aerows Jan 2013 #8
Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #48
sadbear Jan 2013 #5
Aerows Jan 2013 #11
leftstreet Jan 2013 #14
sadbear Jan 2013 #16
Whisp Jan 2013 #23
Aerows Jan 2013 #33
Whisp Jan 2013 #36
Aerows Jan 2013 #38
Dawgs Jan 2013 #46
Maven Jan 2013 #47
mattclearing Jan 2013 #6
Aerows Jan 2013 #9
mattclearing Jan 2013 #21
Aerows Jan 2013 #41
mattclearing Jan 2013 #42
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #10
Aerows Jan 2013 #12
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #15
Flashmann Jan 2013 #17
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #25
Flashmann Jan 2013 #26
Aerows Jan 2013 #35
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #27
Flashmann Jan 2013 #28
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #29
Flashmann Jan 2013 #13
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #18
Flashmann Jan 2013 #22
LeftyDemLibProgress Jan 2013 #19
sadbear Jan 2013 #20
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #34
hrmjustin Jan 2013 #43
Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #44
hrmjustin Jan 2013 #45
snooper2 Jan 2013 #24
Aerows Jan 2013 #30
Aerows Jan 2013 #31
datasuspect Jan 2013 #32
Aerows Jan 2013 #37
datasuspect Jan 2013 #39
Aerows Jan 2013 #40

Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:49 AM

1. Step up to the plate

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:49 AM

2. maybe give it a rest, its four years away

 

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Response to quinnox (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:50 AM

4. Never too early

to have a good candidate, cher.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:52 AM

7. No way

the 2016 Presidental Election began on November 7, 2012

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:50 AM

3. No more triangulating, 3rd Way, pro-war Democrats. NT

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:52 AM

8. I think she comes from the heart

I don't think she is triangulating, so much as she is working to the best of all concerned with the angles presented.

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:31 PM

48. It worked for President Obama

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:50 AM

5. All that is true, but...

I think we could still do better.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:58 AM

11. See, this is what tees me off

"We could do better" as though Hillary Clinton is the scum on the pond. The lady is fierce, she is eloquent, and has credentials coming out of her ears, yet some folks in the Democratic party want to make those negative traits.

What in the hell is wrong with being a credentialed, well-spoken, passionate President?

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Response to Aerows (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:02 PM

14. She is an outstanding center-right candidate n/t

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Response to Aerows (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:06 PM

16. Where did you get that?

Pond scum? Certainly, I would not have a problem with a second President Clinton, but the fact is she's not very liberal for a Democrat. Saying we can do better does not mean I thinks she's pond scum. I mean, I like rib-eye steaks, which are very good IMO, but I know I could do better.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:09 PM

23. she also voted for the Iraq war. She's pro war.

as is her husband. When George Sr invaded Iraq in Gulf War1, Clinton took over and sanctioned them to hell for his whole two terms, then George Jr takes over when Iraq was weakened from all those years of assault, he took over for the final assault and grand robbery and the PNACers and the Halliburtons ran off with a lot of money and blood. Clinton was part of this chain of events and you can argue separation between Hillary and Bill's ideas, but she does have a habit of denying support of anything Bill did that was not popular and jumping on the wagon saying she helped him with anything that Was popular.

Why do we need a woman president that thinks like all the men presidents before her and has to remind us regularly (or her surrogates) of how 'tough' she is.

sorry, Aerows. I have to really really really disagree with you on this.

The reason white european men were only elected for how long was because of this thinking. That if he's a man he gets the job. I don't want the first woman president to act like all those previous men on that job.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:22 PM

33. I still love you, Whisp :)

We can agree to disagree.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #33)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:25 PM

36. me you too. :)



I was kinda scared to read your reply tho.



but all's good.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:29 PM

38. We are friends

and that means more to me than politics.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:50 PM

46. Nothing wrong with those things. Doesn't mean we can't do better.

She did vote for the Iraq war after all.

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:51 AM

6. Good luck with that. n/t

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Response to mattclearing (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:54 AM

9. Do you think she is a bad candidate?

Please proceed.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:09 PM

21. Yes.

You might recall that she lost the nomination when it was hers to win. She had her chance, made some poor choices as a Senator (like supporting the IWR for one) and ultimately failed to persuade the Democratic Party and by extension, the American people, that she should be President.

She also had higher negatives than Obama and polled worse against John McCain. If she had won the nomination, you might be complaining about the war with Iran which President McCain couldn't wait to lead us into.

It's also comical and insulting that you should use Obama's line to push a second Hillary presidential run. The facts don't support your cause, and I'm not Mitt Romney.

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Response to mattclearing (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:37 PM

41. I didn't mean to be insulting

nor comical. I wanted to see what other Democrats thought. I like her. I always will. Jeer me all that you like, but you don't have to vote for her, either.

I made my opinion plain, you disagree. That why we have opinions

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Response to Aerows (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:46 PM

42. Fair enough. n/t

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:54 AM

10. Sorry Hillary is not the future, she needs to step aside, maybe mentor and coach younger candidates

 

Sorry Hillary is not the future, she needs to step aside, maybe mentor and coach younger candidates with getting elected.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:59 AM

12. 2 posts

I can see how Hillary alarms you, since she is more respectable that any 12 Republican offerings.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:03 PM

15. Hillary does not alarm me at all, she is way to conservative for me and she will be way past 60

 

by 16.

The party needs younger leaders unless of course your goal is to turn the party into the GOP with nothing but old people running the show.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:06 PM

17. She is past 60 now

You're not doing much to enhance the illusion that you are of informed opinion.....

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:11 PM

25. I am Very Informed and we live in a very shallow nation where looks and age play a big part in

 


the majority’s decision making for elected leaders.

If you think she is the best one for the job, support her.

I do not think she is the best for the job, nor the party as POTUS.

I would prefer and back with support including cash a liberal and progressive candidate for POTUS.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:13 PM

26. If you think she is the best one for the job, support her

Asked and answered....I now direct you to post #13......

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:25 PM

35. File 13

The round file. Exactly.

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:15 PM

27. Now you sound like a gun nut becasue I did not name the right part of the gun

 

no I do not know her exact age but I do know she is over 60 now and will be 4 yeras older in 16 and that is a cold hard fact.

In fact I don't know the exact age of any politician, I know the general age of them, exact age, no.

Nor do I care.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #27)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:17 PM

28. Your circular logic

Is tedious and boring,as is your insistence on maintaining a pretense of intellect and informed opinion.....Good day to you....

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:18 PM

29. You are funny! BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:01 PM

13. To make the claim,this far in advance

That any potential candidate is or is not the best or is,or not the future seems predicated on disregarding unforeseeable dynamics that are certain to occur.......Wouldn't that be both disingenuous and counterintuitive,not to mention ridiculous?...

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:07 PM

18. If she wants to run, she can, I don't care nor will I support her in her effort I will support

 

someone else, if she is the party nominee then all she gets from me is holding my nose and voting for her only becasue she has a (D) after her name.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:09 PM

22. Ah...I see

Please refer to post #17....

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:07 PM

19. Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team)

 

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Response to LeftyDemLibProgress (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

20. ...

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Response to LeftyDemLibProgress (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:23 PM

34. Ok if you say so, I don't personally know Will Pitt so it is hard for me to judge if he

 

is a douche or not.

He may or may not be but either way it is just your opinion.

How about saying ... In my opinion Will Pitt is a douche...instead and make your case as to why.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:56 PM

43. There is a troll that is rejoining every few hours and making calling a member WilliamPitt

names. people just alert on him when he pops up. Welcome to DU.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #43)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:05 PM

44. I searched the name & Will does not seem like a douche but perhaps I have a different standard as to

 

what makes one a douche then others.

Like what Harry Reid did yesterday that was douchey in my opinion, others will disagree but I also won't start a thread calling Harry Reid a douche either.

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Response to Lesmoderesstupides (Reply #44)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:09 PM

45. Will Pitt is a great poster who is being harassed by this troll.

They think it may be a former member that has a grudge.
Harry Reid is a politician and is acting like one. No surprise there!

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:10 PM

24. you should start a website!

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:19 PM

30. I'm guessing it would be as welcome

as a Glen Beck oratory on how to prepare for the end of days.

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:21 PM

31. I deeply respect HRC.

Many of my friends (love you Whisp) disagree. That is okay. I put this out there.

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Response to Aerows (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:21 PM

32. no more clintons, no more bushes

 

there are 311,591,917 people (2011 census) in the US, surely someone ELSE is qualified.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #32)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:28 PM

37. Until they step forward, I still

like Hillary Clinton. Sorry, I just like her.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #37)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:31 PM

39. just reeks of a lack of imagination

 

300,000,000 + people.

i just can't get past the hope in all the diversity among that many people to have vestiges of former neoliberal administrations still hanging around like a specter in national politics.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:33 PM

40. Lack of imagination

LOL, now there is a concept that I can agree with. 300,000,000+ of us, and we do, indeed lack imagination.

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