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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:41 AM

The Republican Tea Party truly believes that their "messaging" has been their biggest problem

I caught an NPR segment this evening on the way home about the Republican's "Retreat" and all they seem to be talking about is how they plan on winning future elections by "toning down" their rhetoric, improving their messaging and "not shooting themselves in the foot" by saying dumb things like Akin and Mourdock did last election. The NPR segment pointed out that they've lost the popular vote during FIVE out of the past SIX elections. Do they really truly believe that their only major problem is HOW they've communicated their policies to the American public (since 2004) and not the policies themselves? The Republicans interviewed for the segment all adamantly declared that they had NO plans whatsoever to change their policies and/or sacrifice their "conservative principles" to make them more appealing to people but just coming up with better ways to "sell" it. IOW they've learned pretty much nothing for 5 elections and still apparently living in their own "reality bubble" believing that people would want the policies they're promoting if they can just fine-tune their messaging just enough.



All I can say is, please proceed GOP!

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Reply The Republican Tea Party truly believes that their "messaging" has been their biggest problem (Original post)
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 OP
octoberlib Jan 2013 #1
tledford Jan 2013 #2
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #3
oldhippydude Jan 2013 #4
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #5
Lurker Deluxe Jan 2013 #12
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2013 #15
global1 Jan 2013 #6
Recursion Jan 2013 #7
jambo101 Jan 2013 #8
BadgerKid Jan 2013 #9
OnionPatch Jan 2013 #10
bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #11
libtodeath Jan 2013 #13
OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #14

Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:43 AM

1. The problem is their policies are crap. Good to see they still don't get it nt

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:45 AM

2. They HAVE to believe that to maintain their self-delusion. eom

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:46 AM

3. I hope the Republican Party falls apart and is replaced by a hard-core, left-wing party.

That would be sweet.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:47 AM

4. yep it's better comunication to the "mud races" n/t

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:53 AM

5. They've got nothing to offer almost everybody

Bottom line is that they gave almost nobody a reason to vote for them last year except for those whom hated President Obama with the fury of a thousand suns and wanted him out of the WH.

They offered NOTHING concrete to Hispanics. They offered no major immigration proposals and they got all bent out of shape over President's Obama's administrative rule change on deporting children of illegal immigrants even though they had previously discussed proposing something similar.

They offered NOTHING to African-Americans other than ensuring that as few of them could vote through various means.

They offered NOTHING to the elderly other than wanting to completely eliminate Medicare.

They offered NOTHING to women other than a bunch of loose talk about "legitimate rape", uninformed and dangerously naive discussions about how women's bodies work, how pregnancy via rape could be considered "god's will", calling women whom advocate for other women "sluts", holding hearings about birth control and only inviting men to testify and, to top it all off, trying to pass a law allowing employers to decide whether or not to provide birth control coverage in their insurance plans.

They offered absolutely NOTHING to LGBT Americans except for Republican ones whom, for whatever reason,care less about their own civil rights than they apparently do tax cuts. IMHO they just need to drop the "Log Cabin" from their group's name and just call themselves "Republicans" because that's basically all that they are. It would at least be more intellectually honest IMHO.

They offered absolutely NOTHING to young college-age adults except for attacks on laws that make it easier to not be crippled by student loan debt years down the road.

Come to think of it, they really offered nothing positive or tangible to really anybody other than than 1-2% of Americans whom make so much money that they don't have to worry about their ability to cast a vote, get health care, have full reproductive freedom, don't have to worry about paying on student loans, or pretty much anything other than being able to keep as much money as they have- even if it's light years beyond what they need for a decent, comfortable life- and be able to pass on all (or close to all) of their millions (or billions) to their heirs at some point in the future.

What was so great about Mitt Romney anyway? Where was his supposed dazzling "brilliance"? What was he proposing to do that should have made us willing to walk over hot coals to vote for him- but somehow got lost in the lack of "communication" and "turnout"?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:29 AM

12. I agree

The current crop of Republicans are just gone ... over the top, far out, loons.

When you have people who are already in office saying crazy shit about "legitimate rape" and trying to force women who have been raped to carry to term there just is no middle ground. There is no discussion to be had. When someone speaks about limiting when an abortion can happen, third trimester ... although I will disagree I can at least understand thier viewpoint.

The religious fringe has taken a very strong control over the current group of republicans, that and the tea party voting block has lead to that party moving away from just about any person who actually follows the issues.

The more they "get the message" out the better, it will lead to the demise of the crazy bastages who have taken over. There is nothing wrong with reasonable disagreement with others about policy, but it is hard to do that when the other side has lost sight of reason.

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Response to Lurker Deluxe (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:08 AM

15. Exactly

There are always going to be competing visions and ideas and political groups out there but there is no reason we can't disagree without being disagreeable. Biggest problem with GOP right now is that they are being lead by the nose by anarchists whom want to shut down/subvert normal government functioning

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:28 AM

6. Let Me See - Something About Lipstick On A Pig....

The Repugs might try to re-brand - but bottom line the will still be the same ole - same ole.

They will only be relying on the fact that many voters are too stupid to see through a re-branding - and they will buy the Repugs messaging - and they will vote them back into office.

Once in office - they will revert back to their true selves.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:31 AM

7. messaging has been the only thing keeping them around

when you don't have the issues, stir up white resentment. Their messaging has been appallingly effective.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 03:04 AM

8. Tea Party?

Seems to me the only thing they are selling is hate,basically a party generated and sustained by rightwing media. i've always thought if you dig deep enough into the teaparty and rightwing media roots you'll find our enemies working effectively in destroying the moral fabric of America with an ultimate goal of Americans killing Americans en masse in some form of civil war.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:00 AM

9. "We're (not so) secretly changing the rules for getting electoral votes....

Let's see if the public notices."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014373071

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:10 AM

10. I've got mine......screw you!

The message seems crystal clear to me.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:16 AM

11. Heard it too. Jindal is such a delusional ass-hat!

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:36 AM

13. Good luck trying to make crazy sound normal

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:44 AM

14. No matter how much lipstick they put on that GOP pig, it's still a pig. nt.

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