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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:06 PM

OK, so let me get this straight. Harry doesn't have the votes

to make filibuster changes, so even after all his bluster about how he'll use the 'nuclear option' if McConnell won't accept a watered-down version, he doesn't hold a vote. (That should keep the Republicans shaking in their shoes next time he threatens them with, well, ANYTHING.)

Meanwhile, the Republicans don't have the votes to overturn Obamacare, but they hold numerous votes about it all the time, wasting taxpayer time and money.

What's wrong with this picture? Is there some reason he couldn't have held the vote to at least see how it might have turned out? Is there some reason he couldn't have gotten the votes on record? Oh, because we want to reserve the right to do the same thing if we're ever in the minority again? That's called PLAYING TO NOT LOSE. And it almost always results in the team that's doing it LOSING. Here's who's really losing: The American People! The filibuster was not meant to be used in this fashion, by either party. If our party cared about that, they wouldn't be trying to reserve the right for themselves. They'd just do what was right.

Well, wah. Now we can't get anything done that the public overwhelmingly supports because of those big bad Republicans. What else is new. I'm thoroughly disgusted and I'm done watching this game. Just not gonna watch anymore, it's too hard on my blood pressure to have my hopes raised and dashed by 'Give 'em hell Harry...or not!' any more.

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Reply OK, so let me get this straight. Harry doesn't have the votes (Original post)
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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:59 PM

1. Rep. McGovern is one Dem. with courage

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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:09 AM

2. Yes, because it would have put Democratic senators on record as opposing the reforms

That would not play well with their constituents - I don't think the people of California would be pleased when both their senators voted "no", for example.

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Response to Flying Squirrel (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:20 AM

3. All I can say is ...

... it's going to be a hell of a lot harder for Democrats to make a credible argument about Republican obstruction when we folded like a cheap suit on our best opportunity to do something about it.

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