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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:50 PM

What guns were really used at Sandy Hook?

I have a right wing-nut friend on FaceBook saying today that there were four "hand guns" used in the school based on an MSNBC news video

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495.

This appears to be a news report on December 15 so I think it's dated. The video does say there is an update to the story but I can't link to it for some reason.

I originally heard a Bushmaster rifle was one of the weapons used in the school along with two hand guns and a shotgun was left in the trunk.

Does anyone really know?



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Reply What guns were really used at Sandy Hook? (Original post)
rightsideout Jan 2013 OP
JaneyVee Jan 2013 #1
Lugnut Jan 2013 #5
JaneyVee Jan 2013 #10
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #31
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #32
madokie Jan 2013 #2
rightsideout Jan 2013 #6
Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #3
PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #9
Fresh_Start Jan 2013 #14
rightsideout Jan 2013 #18
PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #21
Soundman Jan 2013 #4
WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #7
rightsideout Jan 2013 #15
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #8
legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #11
Wait Wut Jan 2013 #12
rightsideout Jan 2013 #13
Wait Wut Jan 2013 #17
rightsideout Jan 2013 #20
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #27
kenny blankenship Jan 2013 #16
jeff47 Jan 2013 #24
zappaman Jan 2013 #19
azxsqw Jan 2013 #22
jmg257 Jan 2013 #23
Berserker Jan 2013 #25
d_r Jan 2013 #26
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #28
Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #29
Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #30
trstrunk Mar 2013 #33
trstrunk Mar 2013 #34

Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:52 PM

1. You're exactly right. A Bushmaster and 2 9mm hand guns.

ETA: Only the Bushmaster was used but 3 guns were removed from the school.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:54 PM

5. Wrong.

All by automatic weapon per the CT state police.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014379730

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Response to Lugnut (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:56 PM

10. I was naming the guns found inside of the school.

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Response to Lugnut (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:48 PM

31. No, semi automatic...

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:13 PM

32. Actually it was a 9mm and 10mm handgun

Picky point that does not really matter.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:53 PM

2. Only the bushmaster was used

there's a post on this very thing just a short time ago

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Response to madokie (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:55 PM

6. Thanks!!

I'll look for it. I'm just now getting on DU today so I have some catching up.

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:09 PM

14. thank you. nt

nt

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:14 PM

18. Thank you for that link

That's official and puts the BS to rest.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:23 PM

21. Also here is video of police finding the gun in the trunk...

It's clearly not an AR-15, it was the shotgun...

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:54 PM

4. There is a fresh article on the front page

 

About half way down. I am pretty sure it says all were shot with a Bushmaster .223.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:11 PM

15. Thanks William

That Greenwich Times article seems to nail it.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:55 PM

8. The medical examiner knows.

 

That's their new talking point and an old tactic, revisionist history.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/medical-examiner-sandy-hook-victims-died-multiple-gunshot-211722237.html


"The veteran medical examiner told reporters that the victims had all been identified and their bodies released. In what appeared to be an uncomfortable moment for Carver, he said all of the victims he had examined had all been shot by a Bushmaster .223 caliber assault rifle, one of at least two weapons Adam Lanza, the 20-year-old suspected shooter, used to commit one of the deadliest mass shootings in U.S. history."

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:58 PM

11. 4 guns on the scene

An AR-15 Bushmaster and two handgus were used in the shooting. A shotgun was found in the trunk of his car, but was not used. The story on MSNBC was later changed. Snopes has a full accounting debunking several myths about Sandy Hook here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/newtown.asp

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:00 PM

12. It seems you've gotten your answer, but...

...it still doesn't matter. They were all murdered with bullets.

Handgun, rifle, assault rifle, shotgun, whatever. They're all dead.

My support for the 2nd Amendment is waning to the point of near invisibility. At least until both sides stop flinging poo at each other and start discussing serious regulations, restrictions, punishments and training requirements.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:08 PM

13. I agree. It doesn't matter in the long run

I'm just trying to counter misinformation being spewed from some of my right-wing friends. It seems they create their own reality to fit the outcome they want to believe. Unfortunately, I can't cut them off completely since I work with them.

But I agree on "they're all dead".

Since 1968, 1,348,000 people have been killed by guns. That's insane. It seems like the 2 Amendment is backfiring on it own citizens.

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Response to rightsideout (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:12 PM

17. I'm going through the same thing.

My RW friends all have tunnel vision. But, with a little patience, I've been able to get them to discuss things logically. Once you scrape away the irrational fear and paranoia, they agree that more needs to be done. But, they'll only say that 'off the record'.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:18 PM

20. Glad you getting through

These right-wingers are intelligent engineers I work with. I'm confounded at their belief in these conspiracy theories.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:57 PM

27. Mine is gone.

It wasn't the pro regulation crowd that made it go away either. It was the digging their feet in crowd that keeps explaining why this regulation or that regulation won't work and the ones that want to argue about clip size and how quick they can be changed. They convinced me that limiting clip capacity won't work, that gun manufacturers will find a way around bans, and that guns really are still more dangerous than video games. So, the only solution is a near total ban.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:12 PM

16. Who cares?

Assault rifle? Glock? Who the fuck cares. I say we "grab" them all and let God sort them out. Until America commits to reducing -drastically - the numbers of guns in circulation - in all hands - we will continue to slaughter each other.

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Response to kenny blankenship (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:29 PM

24. Right-wing tools do

And they use the erroneous news reports as proof that the whole thing was a massive conspiracy designed to take their guns.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:16 PM

19. The kind that kill people.

In this case, 26 people including 20 children.

Does that answer the question?

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:12 PM

22. The truth

 

The news reported a lot of misinformation. They are at fault.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:36 PM

25. Why does it

 

Matter what kind or how many? It just shows the Idiocy of the question.
Adam Lanza (you know the one who did the shooting) KILLED 26 people.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:40 PM

26. npr just said

He had the bushmaster and 2 handguns in the school, left 12guage shotgun in the car trunk. Shot people w bushmaster' shot self w handgun.

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Response to rightsideout (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:34 PM

28. State Police: All 26 Newtown victims shot with assault rifle Neil Vigdor Updated 5:38 pm, Thursday,

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:48 PM

29. another misleading headline

All 26 of Lanza's victims were shot with the .223 caliber semi-automatic rifle, said Vance

Read more: http://www.greenwichtime.com/newtownshooting/article/State-Police-All-26-Newtown-victims-shot-with-4220548.php#ixzz2Iwo05WE5

It was not an assault rifle or assault weapon per Connecticut law. The law enforcement official was correct in his description.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:01 PM

30. Ahh, a gun dictionary cop.

I am sure that matters to six year olds with their brains blown out.

Just before they died, I'll bet they laughed and said, that 'moran' probably thinks it's an assault rifle.

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