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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:43 PM

Kerry/Ron Johnson >BOOM

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Ron Johnson: I demand to know what happened in Benghazi! Kerry: If you had gone to the briefings, you would. #Boom


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John Kerry calls out Sen. Ron Johnson for missing Benghazi hearing (VIDEO) http://tpm.ly/149AcDE

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Reply Kerry/Ron Johnson >BOOM (Original post)
bigtree Jan 2013 OP
Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #1
bigtree Jan 2013 #4
lunatica Jan 2013 #41
cynzke Jan 2013 #39
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #2
JDPriestly Jan 2013 #15
gtar100 Jan 2013 #16
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #24
Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #35
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #40
nick of time Jan 2013 #3
Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #5
nick of time Jan 2013 #6
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #7
Myrina Jan 2013 #10
DallasNE Jan 2013 #23
vanboggie Jan 2013 #18
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #27
Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #20
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #28
Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #36
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #42
Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #44
CrispyQ Jan 2013 #51
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #54
CrispyQ Jan 2013 #56
cilla4progress Jan 2013 #52
ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2013 #55
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2013 #8
Scuba Jan 2013 #9
BainsBane Jan 2013 #11
Greybnk48 Jan 2013 #12
StepnKretchit Jan 2013 #13
Cha Jan 2013 #14
DainBramaged Jan 2013 #17
Honest_Abe Jan 2013 #19
Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #45
radhika Jan 2013 #21
vlyons Jan 2013 #22
Scurrilous Jan 2013 #25
gateley Jan 2013 #26
karynnj Jan 2013 #46
gateley Jan 2013 #48
karynnj Jan 2013 #49
gateley Jan 2013 #50
karynnj Jan 2013 #53
gateley Jan 2013 #57
karynnj Jan 2013 #58
Number23 Jan 2013 #29
Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #30
lark Jan 2013 #34
AlbertCat Jan 2013 #31
pansypoo53219 Jan 2013 #32
JEB Jan 2013 #33
karynnj Jan 2013 #47
nyquil_man Jan 2013 #37
Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #38
Blue_Roses Jan 2013 #43
stevenleser Jan 2013 #59

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:54 PM

1. Ron Johnson has shown his lack knowledge on two days in a row.

He sounds like he gets all his information from Faux, Shame and Rush. Don't they ever read anything for themselves, no apparently they get their talking points right out of the garbage.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:01 PM

4. in a lot of ways, this is the crux of the republicans' decline

. . . with information coming so fast and accessible, more and more folks are able to reject the republican inventions out of hand. The majority of their rap is just made-up rhetoric and stuff Limbaugh and the FOX nuts have dreamed up to entertain their rabble, like you say. They're trapped inside their own fantasy bubble. really, what else is left them? They don't believe in government outside of the personal largess and the kickbacks from their corporate cronies. They have no modicum of a beneficial social agenda. They are an empty shell full of stale air.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:38 PM

41. These people are convinced they know the facts which is why they don't

have a clue about just how stupid they sound and look to the rest of us.

They just take what Sean Hannity says as a fact and armed with such trustworthy arguments they think they have Clinton (or whoever) nailed to the wall. It's a big surprise to them when someone comes out with anything they haven't heard.

When Kerry asked him if he had gone to the briefing it was probably the first time rep Johnson had even heard of it.

edited for spelling

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:28 PM

39. Rand Paul's TP's.

Did anyone see Hiliary Clinton's response when Rand Paul asked her whether we were shipping arms to Turkey from Libya? Her response was "Turkey?". I wish she would have added.... "Senator Paul, are you getting your talking points from Fox News again?"

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:55 PM

2. It's nuts that these republicans say they were "mislead". When they were told allot

 

and there still is an ongoing investigation.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:59 PM

15. If he had listened to Obama's speech in the Rose Garden and Clinton's statement on

September 12, 2013, he would be better informed. Clinton said at that time that it was a heavily armed attack. She also said that there were demonstrations in some places.

The Republicans go on and on about this and the more they do, the stupider they seem. They are making fools of themselves.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:01 PM

16. Republicans don't hear anything until they hear what they want to hear.

It's part of their communication strategy. Impossible to get new facts into their heads unless they are in agreement with their ideology. It turns many of them into idiots and some into assholes.

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Response to gtar100 (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:31 PM

24. Oh I don't see to much a difference between idiots and assholes. The label fits them well.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:14 PM

35. And I'm beginning to think "mislead" means

"The story I'm getting does not 'mesh with the facts' I have in my view, so I'll just say I was mislead". Trouble is, they won't admit who is misleading them....

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:30 PM

40. Republicans have a problem with letting facts get in the way.

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:56 PM

3. Ron Johnson is nothing more than a loud mouthed tool

 

and John Kerry put the tool back on the tool rack.

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Response to nick of time (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:13 PM

5. A loud mouthed tool trying to get publicity & name recognition, but getting known as complete fool!

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:15 PM

6. A fool of a tool!!

 

I love it. Every time that tool opens his mouth, his foot follows.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:41 PM

7. I just called and demanded to know why Johnson missed the hearing

referred to by Sen. Kerry today during Kerry's confirmation hearing. I was told that they couldn't answer that question and was being given the run around. By now I was livid and shaking and I demanded to know why a person answering phone calls for Johnson couldn't tell me exactly what Johnson was doing during that briefing. The person couldn't answer me. I asked how they could be answering phones but have no answers regarding Johnson's schedule? I asked was he there right now and was told "NO" yet when I asked what he was doing right now, where he was, I was told he is in a meeting with his staff. What, a staff meeting but he's not in his office? Where is he having this meeting? "Sir, all I can do is take your message and pass it along but I can't guarantee a response." To which I replied that passing it along isn't answering a simple question: Where was Johnson when he missed the Benghazi briefing referred to by Sen. Kerry during Kerry's confirmation hearing this morning?

It was clear I had hit a brick wall and I ended up telling him that I'll be "writing this up" exactly the way he handled it and he tried to take my name and I said "I told you my name is (first name) and that Sen Johnson is a servant of The People and when The People call to ask exactly what our paid servant was doing when he should be working it doesn't matter what their name is because you're not going to call me back with an answer anyway". I told him if he had answers they wouldn't need to take my name and number. He said again "If I could just get your name..." and I cut him off and said "No, you can't. Goodbye."

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:07 PM

10. He was probably at McLame's news conference ...

... complaining that there were no hearings, standing right outside the room where the hearing was being held.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:51 PM

23. There Were Only Something Like 3 Out Of 11 Republicans That Attended The Briefing

So they were not looking for answers or solutions, only a political issue where they thought they could gain some traction. As these hearings are showing, it was a big miscalculation on their part. Johnson has had his ass handed to him two straight days now. I wonder when he will stop digging.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:15 PM

18. Beautiful

You certainly hit Johnson's staffer with all the right questions. Johnson and his staff had better invest in some Depends with all the slap downs and being scared shitless at the tough questions.

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Response to vanboggie (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:24 PM

27. Thank you. I plan to call back tomorrow and ask why they've had

24 hours to get the answer to my question yet they don't have it yet. Because I know they won't have it.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:36 PM

20. Well Done!

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:25 PM

28. Thanks, Sherman A1. I love calling little r idiots and blowing off some steam. eom.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #28)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:17 PM

36. I am inspired by you to do the same

usually I email lame-o RoJo, but maybe his staff needs to hear a few more voices from his constituents...in real time.

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Response to Lifelong Protester (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:22 PM

42. I always call because that way I know somebody in that office actually heard

my 2¢ and I don't have to wonder if that email I spent an hour writing was read by anyone. And when I am compelled to call a politician or government agency, it's mostly because I'm not happy with what they are doing or saying. So it's a great way to blow off some steam that I would otherwise sit here and stew in.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #42)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 04:56 PM

44. Probably better off calling

if you write or email, you get this boiler-plate crapfest of a response, and you rarely get an answer, but you're right, you may have spent an hour on an email, and who knows?

Although, meeting Russ Feingold and listening to him talk about constituents, he said he and his staff went over the topics/letters weekly to get an idea about what we were thinking. But of course, that's Feingold; now we have this asshat.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:30 AM

51. This is the kind of activism we should all be taking!

Now write that experience up into a LTTE & send it to your local paper! Let your community know about Representative Johnson's hypocrisy. Then, when it's printed, mail the LTTE to Johnson's office.



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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #51)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:52 AM

54. That's a very good idea! Thanks! eom

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #54)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:13 AM

56. If you do & it gets published, report back!

Maybe others will be encouraged to do the same.

I used to write LTTE quite often. I should take my own advice.

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:37 AM

52. Good for you!

I assume you are constituent.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #52)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 AM

55. Nope, not a Wisconsin constituent. I am, however,

a US citizen who sees every single member of Congress as my subordinate and I won't hesitate to take it to any one of them.

Why would you assume I'm a Johnson constituent?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:50 PM

8. Wow..they kind of exaggerated that headline, didn't they? I

didn't see Kerry call Johnson out at all. Maybe I was hoping and expecting a real putdown and am disappointed

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:55 PM

9. Sunspot Johnson, dumbest hammer in the bag.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:08 PM

11. without question

a complete dolt

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Response to Scuba (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:46 PM

12. Amen to that. n/t

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:48 PM

13. Like I said in a previous post,

Ron Johnson (R-Stupidass) is too Stupid. He is too stupid to know that he is stupid. And everybody can still smell the shit that Secretary Clinton slapped out of him yesterday because it is still stuck to the bottom of his shoes.
Dumbass!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:56 PM

14. First Hillary now Kerry expose

Sen Johnson for an idiot.

Thanks bigtree

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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:02 PM

17. Ron Johnson; see the big one in the middle?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:31 PM

19. Mr. Johnson:

A word to the wise from a fellow Republican:
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Just sayin'
A. Lincoln

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Response to Honest_Abe (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 08:43 PM

45. Very true

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:39 PM

21. And to think that THIS idiot was picked over Russ Feingold in 2008! n/t

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:44 PM

22. Pols like Johnson are paid

mouthpieces for a corporate, criminal conspiracy. They are the same as attorneys for the mob. They rid the script that is given to them, and when something pops up that's not on the script, they hem and haw and blather on and on and on about freedom, American values, foreign terrorists,dangerous socialists, welfare Moms, and of course Jesus.

They are grifters diverting tax dollars into the corporate criminal conspiracy.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:24 PM

25. K & R

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:06 PM

26. Kerry was too gracious, IMO. Wish he would have subtly played it up.

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Response to gateley (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 09:08 PM

46. I don't think so - remember that his number 1 goal is to get confirmed

In the hearing, he strongly defended HRC -

- He completely defused Johnson - ie the reason he did not know was he did not attend meetings. Per articles, his office took the time and effort to defend that he attended LOTS of meetings and he just joined the committee in letters to WI media.

- He sharply objected to Mccain's use of "misled" - the KEY word in the RW attacks.

HRC had ONE goal to defend herself and the administration - she had no need for the Congressional Republicans to like or respect her - though it would be nice. Kerry met the goal of defending the Obama administration, but also maintained his graciousness. In a way, this can be seen as a test of diplomatic skill. There will be times adversaries from other countries will say things that the US will dispute. The ability to stay cordial and focused - but of which he was - is a major plus. (Not a criticism of HRC - she did NOT need to stay cordial at this point when personally attacked.)

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Response to karynnj (Reply #46)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 02:40 PM

48. I still would have preferred a "you did not attend the meeting?" to give that more weight,

then launch into those "those who attended saw..." and maybe even a little bit of "I understand your question better now, it makes sense since you didn't attend the meetings and weren't really up to date."

Something like that.

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Response to gateley (Reply #48)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:16 PM

49. Absolutely Not! Kerry made HIM confess he didn't

That completely made the point. He followed it with what happened at the meeting. Crystal Clear - the former prosecutor at his best.

Not to mention, his hearing was about him -- this was excellent. In reality, it was more definitive than HRC 's angry retort - understandable as it was. Kerry's comment led his staff to send a counter to the WI media - so he clearly thought it was damaging.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #49)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 09:46 AM

50. Haha! We're not going to agree on this.

Either way, it's done, and damage has been done. I just wish it had been more.

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Response to gateley (Reply #50)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:38 AM

53. We can agree that we will not agree on this

My guess is that a 2016 D challenger could easily use the exchange to move independents away from Johnson. The contrast between the initially agitated Johnson with his baseless charges that he had just been called on the day before being swatted away with zero effort by Kerry quietly pointed out the that Congress did get the timeline is immensely damaging for many reasons.

1) Johnson was utterly ineffective - especially as he quietly conceded "no" - and Kerry then continued to outline what was in the meeting.

2) It called him out for not attending an important hearing. This is a charge always used to hurt Senators. The fact is that they often have 2 or more hearings at the same time making it a physical impossibility to attend all their committee's hearings. Here, he has inflated Benghazi as the premier issue and he then can be seen admitting he did not attend the hearing. (One thing I don't know is whether the closed door hearings are taped as well as the open ones on the web site - if so, it also meant he did not view that.)

I agree that Kerry's interaction was less bombastic than Hillary's and made less of a partisan splash - but that might be why it is ultimately more damaging.

(The alternative you suggest might not have been positive as Johnson was grilling Kerry, not the other way around - even though in essence JK did do that via his question on attending the hearing.)

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Response to karynnj (Reply #53)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 PM

57. You have a good point about fodder for a challenger.

Other than that, we just view this differently.

But really, the RW is going to think that Johnson did JUST GREAT in CALLING KERRY OUT -- no matter how it went down.

All in all, I think it was a big positive!

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Response to gateley (Reply #57)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:16 AM

58. The same RW that would declare a victory over pushing Hillary to say it doesn't matter?

The statement, clearly out of frustration dealing with a creep, was used even by the others Senators. (example - Kerry had to explain it when McCain brought it up. )

I have long thought that the exchanges DU likes best (even Kerry's) are when they get angry enough to become at least somewhat not political in what they say.

Hillary faced what was about 5 hours where 2 12 were Democrats leaping praise on her and taking the time to thank her for 4 years of hard work ... and 2 1/2 hours of Republican attacks. She showed great knowledge of the details of what happened and she explained well that she has already started the department working on changes. But, the Johnson attack really got to her and her reaction was very human and everyone except the RW saw him as a bully.

It is likely that history will look at the issue that the Republicans have made - whether the WH intentionally played down that it was an AQ attack and whether they strove to keep the issue murky until after the election. For Democrats, one question might be who and why Susan Rice was thrown out there. It may be that had the explanations come from Obama, Biden or Clinton, they would not have been able to walk away from them as easily as they did - where the claim was essentially that Rice was uninvolved and speaking CIA talking points.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:04 AM

29. Rec

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:16 AM

30. Ron Johnson is on a roll this week.

 

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Response to Pretzel_Warrior (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:07 PM

34. He's rolling in the mud

and looking awfully dirty to these old eyes.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:36 AM

31. If you had gone to the briefings, you would.

Well, that was easy!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:33 PM

32. senator stupid. teabag asshole.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 12:36 PM

33. I'm kind of surprised

that Johnson or some other Puke tool didn't try and run with the old Swiftboat garbage.

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Response to JEB (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 09:13 PM

47. I think the reason is they know they are lies and that Kerry would - in person - refute them

The last thing they want is to allow Kerry to have a forum to answer them. (as he did in 2004, but the media decided his words before the firefighters addressing it were not news.)

I wonder if McCain read them the riot act.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:20 PM

37. Garbage in, garbage out.

Elect a moron to represent you and you will get moronic representation.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 01:20 PM

38. It sure is taking him a long time to realize

that talking smart to folks who know more is a dangerous game.

What an idiot. I'm so embarrassed by him, and sorry our state sent yet another dumbo to the senate (the other being the much worse Joe McCarthy...)

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 03:37 PM

43. Ron Johnson looks like a major arrogant prick.

It's not just enough that he is asking a question that he would have known the answer to if he had attended the meeting, but to watch him talk down to John Kerry as if he (Kerry) were just elected to the senate, goes beyond the pale. John Kerry could do cartwheels around this nut where foreign policy is concerned. By trying to be a badass, not only does it show his stupidity, but his inability to be an effective senator.

This loon needs to go bye-bye. His "field trip" to Congress is over.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:19 AM

59. Hillary told Johnson in their exchange "You need to read the two ARBs" This guy doesnt read or

attend the briefings he is supposed to attend in his capacity as a member of the senate foreign relations committee.

He is like George W. Bush, he ran for the title of senator because it sounds cool and gives him power.

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