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Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:29 AM

Old white men politicians are losing ground; voters are sickened at the sight of

the spittle and drool coming out of their mouths with the stupidity of their words. Who do they think they impress when they scorn women and their health and workplace issues, and use code words to demean the "others?"

IT'S OVER. SERIOUSLY, IT IS OVER.

The Obama presidency has set a new benchmark for how America views the office and it's occupant. He is young, smart and young. He is not an old wrinkled white man who waited in line for his "turn" at running for the presidency.

I am saying all of this for one reason, and one reason only.

The next president will be Hillary (another woman) or a male 55 years or younger.
If the Dem's run an old white guy, or the GOP does, then they will lose.

Why? Because in 2016, today's 14 year old, will be voting. In 2016, the white population of voters will be overtaken by a more diverse population of voters and will not be comprised of high numbers of "old white men."

Sadly, I do not see an open window for Joe Biden. It is has closed. This is not a commentary on if and why any old white man could or would be qualified.

Rather, it is my view that the office of the presidency will have been recast in the conscious mind of voters after 8 years of Obama and his family occupying the WH. America will be ready and perhaps even eager, to elect a woman.


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Reply Old white men politicians are losing ground; voters are sickened at the sight of (Original post)
Ninga Jan 2013 OP
MADem Jan 2013 #1
DJ13 Jan 2013 #2
Ninga Jan 2013 #9
Skip Intro Jan 2013 #15
just1voice Jan 2013 #17
bettyellen Jan 2013 #3
upaloopa Jan 2013 #4
Ninga Jan 2013 #10
upaloopa Jan 2013 #11
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #5
amandabeech Jan 2013 #6
Ninga Jan 2013 #8
Matariki Jan 2013 #18
Ninga Jan 2013 #7
KoKo Jan 2013 #19
Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #37
Matariki Jan 2013 #12
Skip Intro Jan 2013 #13
KoKo Jan 2013 #21
just1voice Jan 2013 #14
lunatica Jan 2013 #16
Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #20
Number23 Jan 2013 #22
Ninga Jan 2013 #23
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2013 #24
bluestate10 Jan 2013 #25
tarheelsunc Jan 2013 #26
KoKo Jan 2013 #32
Ninga Jan 2013 #35
virgogal Jan 2013 #27
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #28
libdem4life Jan 2013 #29
tpsbmam Jan 2013 #30
hrmjustin Jan 2013 #31
Ninga Jan 2013 #34
Spider Jerusalem Jan 2013 #33
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2013 #36
sakabatou Jan 2013 #38
Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #39

Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:34 AM

1. I was watching the failed attempt at a Clinton Crucifixion yesterday....

And I couldn't help but notice that all of the Republicans were well-larded, looked like they were hung over, and had that unfocused, raddled and hard look of too much boozing. They all looked sweaty and greasy, like they'd just finished a steak dinner and ate the fat off the sides, and were having trouble with their digestions that a couple of scotches didn't cure.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:44 AM

2. I dont believe race has anything yo do with it, its the policies people hate

If race played a part people like Bernie Sanders wouldnt have an audience with the groups you're talking about.

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Response to DJ13 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:31 PM

9. I am confused. My OP doesn't talk about race, only gender. Isn't Bernie a man?

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Response to Ninga (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:42 PM

15. Your OP uses the word "white," disparagingly, seven times. nt

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:47 PM

17. I think the person is showing signs of mental illness, i.e. extreme denial

 

and compulsive lying which fits with the illogical OP. That's not meant as an ad-hom attack, it's meant to point out the obvious behavior exhibited and it's likely cause.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:46 AM

3. likening Joe Biden to any greedy out of touch Republicans is batshit crazy. you think young voters

are that stupid? Hillary is getting to be an old lady- and superficial morons- the voters you seem to be pandering to, are not very kind to older women either.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:46 AM

4. Would you say old black men if that were the case?

I think you need to stop the racist name calling. I am an old white man and do not support right wing policies on any way.
You are adding to the DU myth
of old white men being the conservative enemy.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:32 PM

10. Did you actually read and comprehend what the OP said? Good grief.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:37 PM

11. You don't care do you?

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:47 AM

5. To the dustbin wit doz fucks!

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:55 AM

6. Ted Kennedy was an old white guy before he finally succumbed to brain cancer.

Were you ready to throw him in the trash compactor well before his illness took its course?

Ageist. Hater.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:29 PM

8. Really? Oh my goodness what a leap. I hate no one, even if they are old white men. I am a lover.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:58 PM

18. A lover of insulting people?

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:27 PM

7. Hey I am a 69 year old white person, who understands what the future holds in terms the demographics

of future voters.

I was hopping for more reasoned input, rather than hurling accusations at me.

Sort of like what Obama said in his speech about name calling not a substitute for debate.

A thank you to the 4 people were able to read my words and comprehend where I was going with my OP.



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Response to Ninga (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:01 PM

19. I must ask "...the spittle and drool coming out of their mouths with the stupidity of their words".

Quote from you in first paragraph from your post.

Does that apply to you also since you claim to be a 69 year old white person.

You seem to have no idea of the racism and ageism you have spewed in this post:

Quote you:

The Obama presidency has set a new benchmark for how America views the office and it's occupant. He is young, smart and young. He is not an old wrinkled white man who waited in line for his "turn" at running for the presidency.

If the Dem's run an old white guy, or the GOP does, then they will lose.

Why? Because in 2016, today's 14 year old, will be voting. In 2016, the white population of voters will be overtaken by a more diverse population of voters and will not be comprised of high numbers of "old white men."

Sadly, I do not see an open window for Joe Biden. It is has closed. This is not a commentary on if and why any old white man could or would be qualified.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:27 PM

37. If you are 69 then you should know better.

"hopping for more reasoned input" - I assume you meant hoping, but maybe not. Anyway, a more reasoned OP might have resulted in more positive input.
Your OP sounds ageist and racist and sexist. A study of history may well be in order.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:38 PM

12. Quit disparaging older people. Your post is mean spirited.

I'd like to see political representation more in line with the country's demographics - so I can kind of understand the 'old white guy' slams. But in reality there are plenty of people over 55, or male, or caucasian, here on DU and they aren't the problem.

Do you consider that posting shit like this is hurtful to people here? Do you care?

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:40 PM

13. Because it's progressive to judge people by race and age.


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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:33 PM

21. Yes..Indeed, and a JURY allowed it to stand in all its "Mis-Glory! n/t

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:41 PM

14. Another racist and ageist opinion that suggests all whites are racist repugs

 

These racist posts are so insulting and there's one almost every day. America wants leadership and doesn't care about the age, race, sex or religion of the leaders.

Get a clue.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:43 PM

16. All demographics will vote for who they think is the best person

Both Hillary and Biden are The Best. If they run they should pick younger people as VPs. Not younger white people, but younger people. And they should fill their cabinet with a very strong cross section of the social demographics in our country.

I don't see younger people wanting to pick someone who isn't a known quantity.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:08 PM

20. Try to judge people by the content of their character.....

you know the rest.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:41 PM

22. Some of the responses to your thread are... staggering.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:20 PM

23. *sigh* I give up and gave up.

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Response to Ninga (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:41 PM

24. I think it's a good thing you're giving up

You clearly have a talent for aggravating people, but not for getting any kind of inclusive message across. You also seem blind to the problems in your writing (such as repeatedly talking about 'white' as a problem, but being unable to realise you've done this, even when explicitly challenged on it).

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:43 PM

25. I agree that a woman is next up at bat. Let's make sure that woman is a democrat. nt

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:44 PM

26. Joe Biden is Joe Biden, he's unique.

I kind of understand your point, and for most of the "old white men", it's true. But it's not because they are "old white men", it's because of how they individually act towards others. Joe Biden is warm-hearted and strikes you as someone who would be genuinely interested in having a conversation with you, no matter what background you come from. Now, the stereotype for "old white men" politicians is something like Mitch McConnell, who strikes me as someone who would feel insulted and call security if anyone outside of his circle of cronies walked into his office.

It's not about age, race, gender, or anything, it's about the person's personality. Ronald Reagan was considered to be a successful political figure to the right in part because he had a grandfatherly feel to many. A lot of people trusted him and still believe to this day he could do no wrong, even though his policies are in part what led to the recent financial troubles. Looking at the state of the American electorate, an "old white man" who possesses charisma similar to Reagan's could definitely be elected. Mitt Romney was pretty old for a Presidential candidate and he still came within 5 points of winning the election, despite the fact that he made blunder after blunder in his campaign and he had the charisma of a robot.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:31 PM

32. It might be an interesting thing to think that Policies Matter rather than Race/Age/Gender

though. Ya Think? You voting for Personality over Substance? Youth over Age despite whatever the political positions are?

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:49 AM

35. I failed miserably and was very clumsy. I do not disparage or dispute Biden's qualifications. But

I didn't convey in clear and specific words my thoughts, which is my fault.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:49 PM

27. As an old person I resent your post. It's insulting. Time to grow up,Ninga.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:55 PM

28. What percentage of congress are white guys?

 

359 out of 535 is 67%.

The demise of the white male politician is greatly exaggerated.

Wait until 2010 happens again in 2014. The percentage will go up.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:57 PM

29. Too many sterotypes ... Liberal or Conservative ... they are still insufferable kneejerks.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:12 PM

30. I'm sick of Michelle Bachmann (56 yo), Eric Cantor (49), Rand Paul (50), Pete Sessions (57),

Trent Franks (55), Richard Burr (57), ...........

It has nothing to do with age or race. It has everything to do with policy & the content of their characters.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:26 PM

31. I think you could have made this post in a less insulting way.

You could have pointed out the changing face of America in a more productive way, I don't think you really meant to be insulting, but it certainly came across that way.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #31)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:40 AM

34. Thank you, I see how that happened.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:36 PM

33. The last three presidents have been younger than 55.

Reagan and Bush Sr were older than the average for presidents; Carter was 52, Nixon was 55, Kennedy 43, FDR was 50. Out of 44 presidents 26 were aged 55 or younger at inauguration. Of the 16 presidents in the past century, six were older than 55 at inauguration (Wilson, who was 55 when elected, his birthday was in December; Truman and Ford, who succeeded after death or resignation; Nixon, who was 55 when elected and had a birthday just before the inauguration; Reagan; and Bush I).

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:16 PM

36. Soooo....you'd support Marco Rubio?

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 01:47 PM

38. I wonder what Gen X/Y will do when they make it into office.

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Response to Ninga (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:21 PM

39. It's blatant ageism. Substitute "black man" for the "old man," and you'll see how vile it is.

It's very offensive, what with the "drool" and other comments.

I hope that post was hidden.

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