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Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:12 PM

Hell must have frozen over

Because as I sit here at our local pizza joint, they have their huge TV screen tuned into MSNBC and not Faux News. I say that because I live in the reddest of red cities in Texas (Plano)

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rainbow4321 Jan 2013 OP
riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #1
narnian60 Jan 2013 #2
snappyturtle Jan 2013 #18
Gothmog Jan 2013 #51
sonias Jan 2013 #52
TexasTowelie Jan 2013 #59
Saokymo Jan 2013 #3
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #4
DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #12
HubertHeaver Jan 2013 #33
DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #54
babylonsister Jan 2013 #5
rainbow4321 Jan 2013 #8
panader0 Jan 2013 #10
bluestate10 Jan 2013 #6
decrepittex Jan 2013 #31
JaneyVee Jan 2013 #7
siligut Jan 2013 #9
w8liftinglady Jan 2013 #11
abelenkpe Jan 2013 #13
uponit7771 Jan 2013 #14
mike dub Jan 2013 #20
rainbow4321 Jan 2013 #43
Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2013 #48
Redford Jan 2013 #15
Blue4Texas Jan 2013 #17
rainbow4321 Jan 2013 #44
robinlynne Jan 2013 #16
bluerum Jan 2013 #19
virgogal Jan 2013 #29
Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #32
virgogal Jan 2013 #34
tpsbmam Jan 2013 #58
Left Coast2020 Jan 2013 #21
Brigid Jan 2013 #30
longship Jan 2013 #39
TxDemChem Jan 2013 #22
Ishoutandscream2 Jan 2013 #23
Liberal In Red State Jan 2013 #24
rainbow4321 Jan 2013 #40
moc Jan 2013 #50
Liberal In Red State Jan 2013 #68
Phlem Jan 2013 #25
rainbow4321 Jan 2013 #41
Phlem Jan 2013 #47
tiredtoo Jan 2013 #26
LisaLynne Jan 2013 #27
Mira Jan 2013 #28
virgogal Jan 2013 #35
Mira Jan 2013 #36
Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #37
virgogal Jan 2013 #66
B Calm Jan 2013 #38
Cha Jan 2013 #46
littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #56
flamingdem Jan 2013 #42
Cha Jan 2013 #45
sheshe2 Jan 2013 #49
Myrina Jan 2013 #53
littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #55
judesedit Jan 2013 #57
Island Blue Jan 2013 #60
shenmue Jan 2013 #61
TBF Jan 2013 #62
blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #63
TXN in WA Jan 2013 #64
saidsimplesimon Jan 2013 #65
Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #67
Left Coast2020 Jan 2013 #69

Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:14 PM

1. OMG

Times are a changin....awesome.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:14 PM

2. That pleases this Texan!

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:36 PM

18. Me too! (Kerrville) nt

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Response to snappyturtle (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:50 PM

51. Me too, (Houston) NT

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:17 PM

52. Me too (Austin)

Slowly but surely we will get there.

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Response to narnian60 (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:34 PM

59. Ibid from Brenham! n/t

A friend once made a nasty remark and told me that you know that your neighborhood is going downhill when DART comes to town.

For better or for worse, Plano has become more economically diverse after the telecom bust in 2000. It will be a stretch to see Plano go blue, but a nice shade of purple will be sufficient for awhile!

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:14 PM

3. Well there was that snow day last week

The times they are a changin'

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:17 PM

4. Plano. Sounds like heaven.

Could be Midland.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:27 PM

12. Oh, God...

Memories of Midland...

Now I'm gonna have to pour myself another drink.

On second thought, screw that - I'll drink that bourbon straight from the bottle.

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Response to DollarBillHines (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:53 PM

33. Thinking of Midland---I think I'll join you.

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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:00 PM

54. Maybe we could start a movement

or a cult.

There must be thousands of us.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:17 PM

5. HOLY Mackeral! As a former resident of TX,

I am shocked! and delighted!

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:21 PM

8. And it's during their prime time lineup

Not the weekend Lockup marathon !! The Ed Show is on!

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:23 PM

10. I thought you were in Houston

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:19 PM

6. Fox News broke their hearts by predicting a Romney landslide and massive republican gains.

I have traveled in the South, I am surprised with MSNBC even being a channel option. Typically, it is either Fox news or some other rightwing bullshit mouthpiece. Heaven help the blue voters there and those voters need to keep fighting their asses off with financial and logistical help from those of us that live in blue states.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:42 PM

31. Fox news (??) comes with

every available package; MSNBC only with an upgrade. The norm here in my part of Texas is Faux on every TV in every business you enter. I was shocked when I walked
into a Motel near Houston this past weekend and CNN was playing. Hopefully Texas will become a blue state in 2016. We can hope.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:20 PM

7. It's happening.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:21 PM

9. Few things could bring change faster

Than shutting down Fox and Rush.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:24 PM

11. LOL!!! You guys are turning blue, baby.

Collin County Democrats are an active bunch,I hear...

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:31 PM

13. Please leave a great tip

hope the pizza was fantastic....I love pizza and this news

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:33 PM

14. South Mansfield is mouth breather land, I never thought Plano was red...Grapevine is maroon

x

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:51 PM

20. that's what I was gonna wonder

as a friend in Chattanooga used to say.

Wasn't sure that Plano was reddest of the red in Texas (my great-aunt is from there). I thought there were more rural/redder areas in Texas.

Hope the MSNBC tuning spreads down to Houston and beyond.

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Response to mike dub (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:40 AM

43. Oh, yes...it always goes at least 60-40 for the repukes during election

Residents ignore the fact that the county thrived during the Clinton era and tanked when chimp entered the picture. Foreclosures went thru the roof, families used to being well off found themselves having to eye local food banks and other assistance or having to take much lower paying jobs once the telecom bubble burst (we are on the edge of what was dubbed The Telecom Corridor because of all those huge businesses along our stretch of the highway here).
So having tanked so badly financially when the national economy suffered under the chimp's regime, county officials turned their interests to the health care profession, begged hospitals that were/are based in Dallas to open branch hospitals up here so now we have what seems like a huge hospital on every street corner competing. As each new one pops up, they get more sparkly and high tech and doctors (with their patients) flock to the newest one. The oldest one in town at one point had such a drop in census they had to lay off nurses a few years back cuz they could not compete.
Plano is better demographically than it was back when I moved here 20+ years ago because of the influx of California and East Coast workers who had their huge businesses move here or open branches here...so there IS hope!

But make no mistake, we still have a ways to go, our county sheriff just yesterday announced he will NOT "enforce" any new federal laws that go into effect that are about "gun control"...and one of the nation's largest gun indoor ranges is being built just up the street on Frisco!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:38 AM

48. I'm from the Richardson/Plano border.

Never thought of Plano as being that red.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:38 PM

15. Which pizza joint?

I must go there and give them some business!!!!

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Response to Redford (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:00 PM

17. Me too!

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Response to Redford (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:42 AM

44. See post #40 :) n/t

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:42 PM

16. nice!

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:44 PM

19. Well, we are havimg some darned cold weather here in MA tonight.

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Response to bluerum (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:40 PM

29. We certainly are. Going to be a very cold week.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:45 PM

32. It's already -4 degrees here now in southern vermont.

I dread the oil bill this month. Last mo it was over $700.00 and we didn't have any of this freekin frigged weather.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:53 PM

34. Yikes,be careful and stay warm. Only 9 degrees here in Eastern Ma.

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Response to bluerum (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 04:55 PM

58. And MA elected Elizabeth Warren, proof positive that it's hell!



(Did I really need to show I was dripping sarcasm with that one?)



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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:55 PM

21. Amazing to witness Neo-Cons blowing a fuse on Cluster Faux

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Response to Left Coast2020 (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:41 PM

30. Is that a sign for Hell, MI?

There really is such a place.

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Response to Brigid (Reply #30)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:55 PM

39. Just make sure you eat at the Dam Site Inn.

It's the best restaurant in town... It's the only restaurant in town. Don't expect to leave hungry... Or sober.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 09:56 PM

22. I'm speechless

Now if Plano can spread some of that to Denton, Flower Mound and Lewisville, that would make my day!

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Response to TxDemChem (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:07 PM

23. And Rockwall. God help us

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:08 PM

24. What pizza joint . . . I want to give them my business!

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Response to Liberal In Red State (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:20 AM

40. Urban Crust in downtown Plano

Good, unique pizza and a bunch of other good food. When I first moved dowtown over 2 years ago it was a sleepy little strip of mom and pop pubs/restaurants downtown. Now it is thriving. When I tried to go a few months ago on a Saturday night to Urban Crust, they told me it would be over an hour wait!
After that, I have learned to go there middle of the week or midday on a weekend day.
That's when I knew the downtown secret was "out". It's good to see the local places get biz. Because I live downtown and can walk to all the places there, the majority my "going out to eat" is there instead of the megachain restaurants in the city.
It is a three story place, top floor being an open air place to sit with a cool view of all around. That area is called "32 Degree Rooftop Bar".

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Response to rainbow4321 (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 11:31 AM

50. I know the owners (using the term very loosely)

Their youngest daughter went to elementary school with my daughter and they were good friends for a time. They parted ways after elementary school, though, as their daughter went eastern cluster, and my daughter went central (she's at PSHS now).

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Response to rainbow4321 (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 10:51 PM

68. Thanks for the info . . We will definitely give it a try . . . My husband is really interested in

the 32 Degree Bar! You're right about the mega chain eateries! That makes up most if the establishments in Plano.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:11 PM

25. Hey!

That's where my wife lived for most of her youth. East Plano I think was her high school?

She's turned out for the better.

Small world.



-p

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Response to Phlem (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:25 AM

41. Yep! My daughters went to PESH!

Great school for academics and sports. It has the IB program and lots of AP classes..my oldest got A LOT of her college classes out of the way and skipped pretty much the first 2 semesters of the basic college classes because she got credit at PESH classes. The PESH theater dept there got her pointed in the right direction for her career choice that she loves...she graduated in the top 10 percent of her PESH class (not easy thing since her grad class had 1,200 kids), went to UT, got a degree from the theater dept and does stage manager work.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:23 AM

47. I'm Luvin that!

That school does seem to put out brilliant kids. Doing what you love is SO important these days. That's what I do and it makes the day swim by.

I got lucky is all I can say.

Take Care and I hope to see your daughters name on Broadway some day!



-p

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:12 PM

26. Glad to hear this

i was at a local car dealer last week and they had headline news on the tv. This is in Michigan but, i have seen a lot of faux in many local business here. And i have always expressed my displeasure with it.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:21 PM

27. This is totally anecdotal, but I had been noticing ...

many places around where I live that have switched from Faux lately. Unfortunately, my favorite pizza place still has them on, but hey, maybe the trend will continue.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:33 PM

28. I'm running across this as well.

In waiting rooms or doctor's offices it used to be Fox for sure, and I would complain every time. Now I say thank you for having it turned to a good station that presents real news.
I don't mention the name "Fox" lest it gives them ideas.

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Response to Mira (Reply #28)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:58 PM

35. I'm astonished that there are TVs in doctors' offices. I've never seen one and I

go to the doctor's quite a bit because of my age.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:05 PM

36. Oh yes, in the waiting rooms of course.

If I find Fox on I ask the people waiting if anyone is watching - if no I ask the person in charge of the desk to turn it off. If yes, I ask for a different waiting room. I once waited outside, once in a big storage room.
I'm brutal and do not budge.
Used to do that when Limbaugh was piped into stores. Asked for the manager and told him/her that I would not return to the store

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Response to virgogal (Reply #35)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:06 PM

37. ALL the Dr. offices I've been in have TVs.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #37)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:25 PM

66. That is strange---maybe it's a local thing.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:17 PM

38. I was at our rural hospital yesterday

in a small town in the reddest part of Indiana. Sitting in the waiting room I was amazed they had their TV on MSNBC!

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Response to B Calm (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:44 AM

46. What the heck's going on

here!

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Response to Cha (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:58 PM

56. We have hit the tipping point.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:33 AM

42. That says a LOT, thanks for sharing! nt

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:44 AM

45. Wow! I can see why you think

hell has frozen over in Plano, Tx, rainbow!

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:28 AM

49. The Times they are a Changing

for the better!

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 01:27 PM

53. I am tortured with Faux in the cafeteria here at "Big Gigantic Student Loan Servicer"

Every.damn.day. It saddens me to glance around the room to see how many folks are slack-jawed, absorbing the bullshit.

I try to go out to lunch whenever I can but this week it's been extremely cold, and closing in on payday, so "lunching out" hasn't been an option.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:50 PM

55. Bwahahaha, thanks for the laugh.

Your state may be purple by now.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 03:29 PM

57. Maybe the Castro brothers are right.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 05:48 PM

60. Be sure to let them know that you appreciate

and welcome the change!

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 06:34 PM

61. Whew!

They used to have Fox on two out of six TVs, at the gym I used to go to. So glad I found a different one.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:02 PM

62. That's awesome -

K&R from south of Houston.

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:15 PM

63. So, who's doing the most moving:

The people or the Parties?

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 07:50 PM

64. Me too!

Montrose, Houston

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:06 PM

65. It's been a long time coming. "for the times they are a'changing".

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 08:29 PM

67. I'm in Dallas!

Howdy, neighbor!

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Response to rainbow4321 (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 02:52 AM

69. It would be nice to have some of that Texas "style" to get people to do shit in Congress

I lived in Beaumont (never will leave dark side) and Houston. I liked the way people actually do stuff if it needs to be done. Well, only some are like that.

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