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Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:35 PM

There are "abortion providers" everywhere, they are called "doctors."







A woman who has money can always go to her private physician. My OB/GYN performed a D&C on me in her office when an unexpected pregnancy threatened my health, but she would have done the same for any reason. It was totally my decision. I was lucky to have insurance.
"Abortion providers" and "abortion clinics" are terms the anti choice people have put in place to punish and stigmatize poor women for far too long and I'm sick of it. Women need to have the right to visit a doctor or clinic without the rest of the world knowing her business. This is a woman's personal decision, and she should be able to go to the damn doctors' office or a clinic without a bunch of "Christians" screaming and waving signs and pictures in her face. No one outside that doctors' office has the right to know why a woman is there. It's simply nobody else's business, period.
Do you think abortion laws apply to everyone? The wealthy could always get an abortion. If the OB/GYN won't provide, just jet off to another country.. problem solved.

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Reply There are "abortion providers" everywhere, they are called "doctors." (Original post)
mountain grammy Jan 2013 OP
ismnotwasm Jan 2013 #1
Hekate Jan 2013 #2
freshwest Jan 2013 #3
niyad Jan 2013 #4
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #6
tblue37 Jan 2013 #5
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #9
Sgent Jan 2013 #7
DirkGently Jan 2013 #8
mountain grammy Jan 2013 #10
pacalo Jan 2013 #11
iandhr Jan 2013 #12
drmeow Jan 2013 #13
love_katz Jan 2013 #14
jeff47 Jan 2013 #15

Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:36 PM

1. +1

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:39 PM

2. Amen, Sister

I hate the GOP for embracing and coddling all the hateful crazies -- did I mention that yet today?

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:39 PM

3. +1,000

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:41 PM

4. k and r--wish it could be a million.

thank you, mountain grammy, for putting it so clearly and simply.

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Response to niyad (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:03 PM

6. No, thank you.

that wasn't so hard.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:47 PM

5. Great rant! Planned Parenthood, like many other clinics that

also perform abortions as part of their healthcare services for women, are not primarily "abortion clinics," but rather women's general healthcare clinics or else women's reproductive healthcare clinics--including prenatal care for pregnant women and other sorts of care.

Often the protesters who hassle women at those clinics are not abusing just women seeking abortions, though that abuse is nasty enough, but also badgering women who have come there seeking prenatal care and other health services.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:17 PM

9. Planned Parenthood has become a target

simply because they perform abortions. I was in my 20's when Roe v Wade was handed down. I worked in a hospital and we saw scheduled D&C's all the time. Sometimes a pregnancy test would be ordered, sometimes not. When someone questioned the pathologist about abortions being performed, she clammed up.. medical privacy and privilege, nobody's business but the patient and the doctor.
I love Planned Parenthood, they saved my life. I used to volunteer as a escort to women using the PP clinic in Denver. It was where abortions were performed and the picketers were there every Sat. morning. Abortion facilities should be part of any public hospital as part of basic health care provided for women, not isolated from other medical facilities for purely anti choice purposes.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:12 PM

7. Depends on the state

in many, doctors are limited to performing only a few elective abortions a year w/o registering as an abortion clinic (with all that entails).

I don't know if that has ever been tested, but it I don't know many doctors in my former state who would do it for someone outside of a long term patient or their daughter. Even that would be fairly rare.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:16 PM

8. These services should be available to all -- in a HOSPITAL.


Clinics provide an essential service to those who need them. But they're also easy targets, both for murderous "protesters" and for Republican legislatures trying to regulate them out of existence.

No one should know what kind of care anyone is getting. Forcing women to seek this kind of care in an isolated space creates a problem we should be able solve.

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Response to DirkGently (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:19 PM

10. Exactly!

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:31 PM

11. As a doctor said on Rachel's show tonight, outlawing abortion wouldn't stop women from getting

one. Having it legal makes it safer & less life-threatening.

And since it has been determined by the Supreme Court to be a woman's constitutional right, then shouldn't every woman, nurse, & doctor who enters a clinic also be protected by law from harassment & violence? For the past 40 years the law has been on the side of women who make that choice!

When their intent to agitate is clear, why are the religious nuts allowed to be near the clinics in the first place? If they're not there for treatment, they have no business being there; they're trespassers & are creating a potentially violent situation. Shouldn't we be writing our congresspeople for legislation outlawing this harassment?

/edited to add a word

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:34 PM

12. Thank you

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:08 AM

13. unfortunately there are OB/GYN's

who are not being trained in the procedure and therefore would not be able to do one even in a circumstance like yours. It is an outrage.

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:08 AM

14. + 1,000,000,000,000

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Response to mountain grammy (Original post)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:29 AM

15. They're also called 'women'

25-50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. Which is also known as spontaneous abortion.

The reason for the wide variety of numbers? Most women who miscarry didn't know that they were pregnant and don't know that they miscarried. So it's hard to get good numbers.

So apparently, God is way more of an "abortionist" than Dr. Tiller.

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