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Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:49 PM

Lake Effect snow?......how are y'all holding up under it?

"When conditions are just right, the snow rates during some events are the greatest ever measured on record from anywhere in the world."
says my weather page.

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Reply Lake Effect snow?......how are y'all holding up under it? (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 OP
In_The_Wind Jan 2013 #1
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #2
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #13
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #16
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #19
Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #24
OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #3
hedgehog Jan 2013 #6
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #14
cali Jan 2013 #26
hedgehog Jan 2013 #29
whistler162 Jan 2013 #32
hedgehog Jan 2013 #4
apnu Jan 2013 #5
JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #7
mikeytherat Jan 2013 #8
IADEMO2004 Jan 2013 #11
mikeytherat Jan 2013 #15
IADEMO2004 Jan 2013 #22
Earth_First Jan 2013 #9
Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #10
MichiganVote Jan 2013 #27
longship Jan 2013 #12
MichiganVote Jan 2013 #17
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #21
MichiganVote Jan 2013 #25
erinlough Jan 2013 #18
hedgehog Jan 2013 #20
JNelson6563 Jan 2013 #23
Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #28
hedgehog Jan 2013 #30
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #31
whistler162 Jan 2013 #33

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:51 PM

1. I'm too far south to be bothered by Lake Effect Snow.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:52 PM

2. Are you asking a question, or making a statement? n/t

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:23 PM

13. The question mark at the end of my header indicates I was asking a question.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:29 PM

16. But then you went on about your weather page and i wasn't certain.

I wasn't familiar with the term Lake Effect Snow until about 8 years ago...I was 57 then...

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:42 PM

19. Sorry if I was confusing...

I haven't paid much attention to snow, since thankfully we have it very very rarely here in SW Ala.
Cental and North Alabama gets snow occasionally.
So this "Lake Effect" stuff that popped up in the weather page warning compelled me to ask about our DU community who live up there.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:41 PM

24. Got it...Thanks. n/t

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:58 PM

3. Lake effect is crazy. You can have 1-3 inches in an hour, and 5 city blocks away they'll have 12"

 

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:59 PM

6. ^^^^^^^THIS!

One of my favorite photos ever - a Lake Effect squall moving in on Buffalo, NY:





Mark Helperin, author of Winter's Tale, went to school at Syracuse University. I suspect that's where he got his inspiration for the cloud wall.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:25 PM

14. I have never seen a WALL of snow moving.

Thunderstorms, yes..but never a wall of what looks like a white sandstorm.
Very impressive.
Esp. from a long long distance!

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:46 PM

26. they're making a film of that novel

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Response to cali (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:28 PM

29. I know! I'm dying to see it!

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:32 PM

32. Right now we have a light dusting, <1inch, of

snow in Camilus and there was about 2 inches in the Groton/Moravia area. So :}

Of course if the winds turn we could get it down the rt. 81 pipeline or across the Thruway pipeline. Have fun.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:58 PM

4. I'm working up my resolve to go out, get the mail and check the chickens.

Two foot plus out there, and it's still snowing!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:58 PM

5. In Chicago, what snow? We haven't had any yet but a flake or two. (nt)

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:00 PM

7. I don't miss it at all!

30 Years in Ra-cha-cah and 5 years in the NF/Buff Area was more than enough.


I'll take these 'snowmageddons that never were' in Central NJ thank you very much!

Which I love - because we get six inches over 24 hours here - and everyone else stays home - and I get the roads to myself.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:01 PM

8. I was born here:



I love snow, but I don't miss those winters.

mikey_the_rat

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Response to mikeytherat (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:08 PM

11. CANADA!!!!! GONE!!!!

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Response to IADEMO2004 (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:26 PM

15. This is my fave online map for Oscoda for just that reason! I mean the lake is BIG, but, really.

And the old family cabin on Birch Island is no more, apparently.

mikey_the_rat

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Response to mikeytherat (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:27 PM

22. The map is a keeper. Gave me a laugh.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:01 PM

9. Here in Western New York we've been under a LES Warning most of the day...

It's as sunny (albiet COOOOLD) winter day as any.

NWS has been calling for 6-12 during the day today, 6-12 tonight; and 2-4 tommorrow...

Time will tell.

The bands have been set up in their traditional areas right along the lake all day, I bet they are getting pounded. Forty miles south; and it's a bright sunny winter day.

We will see, if we get that NNW wind at 25-30 tonight as predicted; we will be buried by morning.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:02 PM

10. I drove into the belly of the beast yesterday

It wasn't too horrifying, although I've seen much worse lake-effect snow than I encountered yesterday. In worst cases, it can be absolutely immobilizing to even the heaviest of snow-moving equipment, and that's scary.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:47 PM

27. Yeah, its a pain when you're in traffic. I was in a 100 car pile up cuz' of that snow wall stuff.

Could have been worse. A truck jack knifed and that saved the rest of us who were downhill from that guy. His truck acted as kind of a barrier.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:14 PM

12. West MI here, ~50 miles from Lake Michigan.

For lake effect snow there has to be wind off the lake. (Here in Michigan, we know about lakes, and lake effects.) Current wind is less than ten mph, not nearly enough for lake effect.

I received two weather alerts early today, but both were for east MI, Detroit area.

It is calm here. No lake effects.

We've received only traces of snow this winter, never more than an inch at a time. It is very, very dry here.

I live in the midst of the Manistee National Forest. Normally I am waste deep in snow, or more, at this time. Last night, the temp dipped below zero for the first time this winter, just barely -- I remember -20F on multiple occasions here. I also remember more than a foot of snow in a day, many times.

Neither happened last year, and this year looks to be even less cold and snowy. Forecasted high for next Monday is above freezing. Most unusual.

No lake effect yet here this winter.

But I would check Buffalo, NY before I'd make any conclusions. They are pretty much the capital of lake effect snow.


R&K

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:33 PM

17. West Michigan/Ottawa, Allegan, Kalamazoo counties. Lots of wind yesterday, maybe 5-8inches.

Not too bad but the roads are slippery and drivers are in the ditch, or at least those who forgot how to drive with care. This is 1/22-usually this stuff comes in late Nov. and Dec. Pretty cold, kids had to stay home from school today-too cold at the bus stops.

Global warming folks.

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:30 PM

21. "Global warming folks."

Yep..that is what the weather page pointed out, saying something about increased water vapor in the air due to ice melting.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:42 PM

25. Lake Michigan sends lake effect snow to the W.Michigan area when the air is not too cold

(when its really cold there is less water vapor in the air) largely because the lake is broad beemed at the lower end. So counties higher up in the State experience less lake effect snow. When the temp's, wind are just right, W. Michigan can really get dumped on. But not this year.

With the heat from last summer and the much lower than average rain/snowfall-its going to be a very dry summer unless something changes.

Editing to add that since the lake is not frozen over this year=more opportunities for lake effect. But its been a very mild winter this year.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:40 PM

18. Lower southwest Michigan, 10 miles from Indiana 3 miles from the lake.

We have 3 inches of snow, but its still snowing. Lots of wind in the past few days, but the temps are 10 or less. A town 4 miles away has almost no snow, that's lake effect.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:28 PM

20. I just came in from feeding the hens and checking the mail -

I expected to change my jeans because they'd be wet to the knees- I didn't expect to change them because they were covered with snow to the seat! Now I am short (5'2"), but the snow was over my thighs except where it was up to my hips!

"I'm from Fulton, we laugh at your snow!"

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:35 PM

23. Some in my area

but most of us who get lake effect are in places that are pretty well prepared for such. It takes epic amounts to really cause serious trouble and I can say that the pinky area of the mitten of Michigan isn't there yet. We've got REALLY cold temps though!

Low of -5 tonight with 100 % chance of snow. What we wake up to tomorrow could be epic. Those crazy lakes, never know what they'll do. Up til recently, it hasn't been terribly cold so the lakes are not frozen so lots of water to be accessed for mother nature's snow machine. We'll see.

Julie

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 06:50 PM

28. I picked up in Buffalo NY at 1600, in Erie PA delivering right now.

The further West I got the worse it got except...

Pennsylvania once yet again didn't look at the forecast.


NY Thruway: At the very worst, a little bit of wind-blown snow.

I-90 in PA: As soon as I crossed the state line, totally covered with packed snow, so you know that road crews hadn't been out at all as traffic packed whatever snow that was falling into a white sheet.

And now they're trying to fix it.

Too late.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:32 PM

30. I just checked the web cam at exit 40, Weedsport on the Thruway -

there still isn't even a trace of snow there. I'm 30 miles north with over 2' and counting!

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:25 PM

31. What a great idea...web cams.

I had not thought to do that.
I can sit in my chair, and wander all over the highways of different states, and shiver at the snow I would be seeing, with out getting my feet cold.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:36 PM

33. Hopefully it stays that way...

I am working in Union Springs on Wednesday. A Network Administrator I have worked with drives from Oswego to Port Byron everyday, maybe not today. He used to drive from Oswego to Moravia in Tompkins county, we work for BOCES as IT support in school districts.

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