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Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:46 PM

My in-depth body language analysis of "the Eye-Roll" vid:




I don't think Obama's laughing along WITH Cheetos......

If he were, everyone's body language would look different.

What Obama's doing is being polite in public. Appropriately so.

Notice Prez Obama laughs at Boner's remark but quickly turns away and faces in the opposite direction. That's a total shut out. Boner's wife looks down, away from her husband and at the moment of the remark, she purses her lips and frowns, separating herself from him further.

Boner himself does the lonely look around with tight lips; that's a classic response to being dissed and left flapping in the wind. He's looking around for some anchor--approval--and there is none.

And then of course there's Michelle's reaction.

Hee hee.

Suck it, Cheetos.


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Reply My in-depth body language analysis of "the Eye-Roll" vid: (Original post)
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 OP
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #1
Schema Thing Jan 2013 #4
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #6
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #10
HiPointDem Jan 2013 #27
bemildred Jan 2013 #29
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #30
bemildred Jan 2013 #32
elleng Jan 2013 #46
jazzimov Jan 2013 #65
seabeyond Jan 2013 #72
seabeyond Jan 2013 #2
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #9
seabeyond Jan 2013 #15
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #21
seabeyond Jan 2013 #45
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #57
jberryhill Jan 2013 #3
fadedrose Jan 2013 #11
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #31
onenote Jan 2013 #34
gtar100 Jan 2013 #37
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #55
seabeyond Jan 2013 #42
madaboutharry Jan 2013 #5
fadedrose Jan 2013 #12
TeamPooka Jan 2013 #28
djean111 Jan 2013 #7
Cha Jan 2013 #39
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #59
fadedrose Jan 2013 #8
JohnnyLib2 Jan 2013 #13
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #22
classof56 Jan 2013 #52
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #54
classof56 Jan 2013 #68
MADem Jan 2013 #14
Berlum Jan 2013 #16
justiceischeap Jan 2013 #17
Cha Jan 2013 #53
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #60
Bok_Tukalo Jan 2013 #18
fadedrose Jan 2013 #19
Scuba Jan 2013 #20
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #23
Scuba Jan 2013 #24
onenote Jan 2013 #25
tallahasseedem Jan 2013 #47
Generic Brad Jan 2013 #66
1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #26
onenote Jan 2013 #33
1StrongBlackMan Jan 2013 #40
seabeyond Jan 2013 #41
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #61
Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #35
Rex Jan 2013 #36
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #62
nyquil_man Jan 2013 #38
fleur-de-lisa Jan 2013 #43
iandhr Jan 2013 #44
TlalocW Jan 2013 #48
CoffeeCat Jan 2013 #49
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #58
Phentex Jan 2013 #50
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #63
randr Jan 2013 #51
BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #64
DirkGently Jan 2013 #56
erinlough Jan 2013 #67
seabeyond Jan 2013 #69
erinlough Jan 2013 #70
seabeyond Jan 2013 #71

Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:49 PM

1. Somebody made a lame joke and she rolled her eyes. Nobody knows what was said.

Too much is being made of this.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:51 PM

4. this^

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:54 PM

6. ah..hey I'm having fun. I just like analyzing interpersonal dynamics.

don't make too much of it.....

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:56 PM

10. I just mean in general--not necessarily your post.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:52 PM

27. +1. it's idiotic.

 

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:57 PM

29. Far too much, especially when there is serious stuff going on. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:03 PM

30. hey well..you're taking a break from the seriousness

By taking time out to comment.

It's ok to be unserious sometimes.....balance, you know

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:09 PM

32. I'm OK with your post, I just don't want to spend all day watching Michelle roll her eyes.

Edit3: and looking at Boehner.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:36 PM

46. Absolutely!

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:34 PM

65. Actually, after viewing the vid several times,

she didn't "roll her eyes". She was eating her salad. Obviously, there was a comment that "surprised" her and made her react involuntarily briefly, but she didn't "roll her eyes" or do anything else except briefly pausing and then continuing to eat her salad. She maintained her composure throughout the entire "episode which is not an episode".

Frankly, if I had been there I would have "rolled my eyes" many more times.

Kudos to Michelle Obama for being able to maintain her composure! Despite over-whelming odds!

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Response to jazzimov (Reply #65)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:18 PM

72. true. more a pause, give me strength at the stupid, and going on with dinner. nt

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:50 PM

2. i got exactly the same watching it. nt

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:55 PM

9. yeah...Prez looks like...

AHAHA....

yeah,
no.



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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:05 PM

15. lol, exactly. he does exactly what hubby would do. i do exactly what michelle would do.

so funny

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:38 PM

21. yeah, I'm thinking back on parties where I'm stuck talking to a drunk.

Laugh politely and then---get outa Dodge!


*snarfle*

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:35 PM

45. “Somebody won’t let you do it.” that would cause most women to roll their eyes.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #45)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:56 PM

57. oh boyyyyy....did I ever

Yeesh.

As you said, that is SUCH Boy's Club, blame those ol'schoolmarm ladies who don't ever let us Manly Men have any fun.

What a load.....





And..I can't see PO patting M's back in the vid but if he's doing that, I agree--definitely sending the message, "grit ur teeth, sweety, we just have to grit. Our. Teeeth."



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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:50 PM

3. "quickly turns away and faces in the opposite direction"


Are you listening with sound? As he turns away, someone starts speaking into the microphone, so it would seem that his attention is directed to the speaker (the one speaking, not the Speaker).

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:57 PM

11. Agreed.

Obama's laugh was a belly-splitter and ended short because of someone getting his attention...

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:08 PM

31. actually, I did listwn to a longer version with sound

Seemed PO turned away before the speaker's voice was heard.

Hey I'm just having fun speculating. What seems obvious to me looks like something differ nt to someone else.

But one thing we can all agree on-- SUCK IT. Cheetos!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:20 PM

34. Nope. The President and Boehner were speaking at the same time as Shumer

and turned away at the point where Shumer suggested that the attendees give a round of applause to those who had put together the luncheon.

You may have had a version with bad sound.

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Response to onenote (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:26 PM

37. Hahaha that is so funny.

And so telling. I never would have seen that if you didn't post the video. Thanks.

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Response to onenote (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:48 PM

55. oh well...

I do my best with what I got...

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:32 PM

42. post 34, the speaker is behind him and was talking all the way thru what bohner was saying. nt

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:54 PM

5. Agree!

Pres. Obama....laughs
Michelle Obama....eye roll
Mrs. Boehner...ugh, what an ass.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:00 PM

12. Agreed

I think that lady is a huge part of the problem at hand, and John's problems in general.

Maybe she's like Michelle Bachman or some of those other repulsive rep women...

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:53 PM

28. all adds up to a Boner fail. :)

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:54 PM

7. For all we know, Michelle was agreeing with something Boehner said.

I have rolled my eyes in agreement at things.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:29 PM

39. But, she's

not laughing.

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Response to Cha (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:06 PM

59. right....all of her non-verbal messages are just sooooo clear:

"Yecch"




Can't say as I blame her!
YECCH is right!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:54 PM

8. I see the President as being part of Boener's joking around

His laugh is too real to be just polite.

I think Boener's wife may be a staunch rightwinger and doesn't appreciate John messing around with Democrats.

And a glimmer of Michelle's eye rolling is directed at Mrs. Boener.

Poor John. I'm one of those people who think that mostly because of their tobacco addiction, the Prez & John have something in common. The Prez understands him.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:00 PM

13. I think we need Oprah to get the real story.


ASAP

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Response to JohnnyLib2 (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:40 PM

22. got her phone number?

Let's get on this!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:00 PM

52. Yes! Oprah will get to the bottom of this international incident.

Could be a two-hour show, the second one devoted to an exposition of Sasha's yawn.

Always enjoy your posts, BTW!

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Response to classof56 (Reply #52)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:45 PM

54. Breaking: CNN asks the Tough Questions! Details at 11:00! But first, this......

Brought to you by Doritoes! Extra Orange!! And, Tanfastick, fake sunlike authentic artificial skin darkening salons..... "for a little darker White that says, "I'm not third world, but I can afford to vacation there!"





Awww you like my posts? Thank you!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:50 PM

68. Good one!

Now this is why I like your posts!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:02 PM

14. It looks to me like the guys were getting a bit fresh and neither of the women cared for it.

I think it's hilarious how people are ascribing a partisan nature to this little snip, and I wouldn't mind if MO did give the guy some crap, but to me it looks like guys yucking it up about some dumbass thing or person (maybe someone off to their right), and the ladies expressing disapproval/disdain/exasperation with regard to their comments.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:06 PM

16. Maybe Boehner was telling the 'Stinky-Republican-Diaper-Senator walks-into-a-bar joke again?

The Republican Diaper Sex thingy always gets, um, some kind of reaction.

Disgustipation.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:08 PM

17. The thing I like most about the entire exchange

is Michelle never once stops eating. She's got a goal and, damnit, she's gonna meet it.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:12 PM

53. I know! Michelle is seriously

getting her vittles where they belong.. was my thought. She will not be distracted.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:09 PM

60. the meal's gotta be a lot better than the CheezWiz on her left...

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:22 PM

18. Having seen the same exact expression on my wife I can say with certainty ....

The Speaker of the House made a pun.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:30 PM

19. I think the President has two huge admirers

One is Joe Biden, the other is Boener. And he likes them both.

Strange.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:31 PM

20. Nailed it.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:46 PM

23. it's quite fun to me...analyzing interactions.

In a way, it's part of my job. I'm a Sign Language interpreter. Sign Language obviously employs a lot of visual meaning, beyond just the specific signs. Facial expressions, body shifts, subtle changes in posture and direction, eye-gaze....al carry clear meaning and modify the message.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:50 PM

24. Very interesting. I'll bet it's very useful in every day life. I had picked up on Boehner ...

... but not some of the other things you noticed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2238315

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:41 PM

25. My in-depth analysis of your in-depth analysis

You reviewed a soundless few seconds of video and concluded it showed what you wanted it to show.

My take: the President and Boehner were having a light hearted exchange that Michelle found silly on the part of both men. That's based on years of getting that same look from my wife. And as far as the President's "shut out" -- he was turning back to face the room because Chuck Shumer, had just taken the podium to express the hope that everyone had enjoyed their lunch and to ask for a round of applause for all of the folks involved in making the lunch a succeess.



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Response to onenote (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:37 PM

47. You got it!

I have made that eyeroll more than a few times after my husband and a friend laugh at things that were only funny to the two of them.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that it is standard among most wives!

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Response to tallahasseedem (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:42 PM

66. My wife makes that same look

I have seen that look on my wife's face too may times to count. It happens when someone who has hurt me sometime in the past makes a lame joke. She does not see the humor and attempts to cover up her repulsion.

It was like watching my wife at dinner with my family.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:51 PM

26. I'm not an accomplished lip reader; but ...

is Mrs. boehner saying "shut-up"? Twice ... once just after she turns her head away from boenher, while he's talking and then again, while she is looking down and reaching for something?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:16 PM

33. I'm curious at what point on the clip you think Mrs. Boehner is saying "shut up"

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Response to onenote (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:30 PM

40. Right about ...

when the speaker says "... Round of applause ..."

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Response to onenote (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:31 PM

41. blanche, what this close up does show is after obama lifts arm and rubs michelles back

THAT says he knew what was being said pissed her off.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:13 PM

61. definitely!!

I can't see it...just looks like shadow behind her to me! ...., but if he is rubbing her back, definitely means "I know, honey. I'm with you..Try to stay calm. Keeeeeep smiliiiiiiing"

good relationship

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:24 PM

35. Did anyone else see the clip right before this one? Where he touches her arm?

I'm on my phone so I can't post it now, but I did someplace here yesterday in one of the eye roll threads. I saw it in The Atlantic Wire.

Here's the link so you folks can go check it out.

http://m.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/01/michelle-obama-john-boehner-eye-roll/61239/

Whatever they were talking about, she wasn't into being touched by Boehner, that's for sure.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:25 PM

36. MOs reaction - that wasn't just a partial eyeroll, but also a double headshake.

AS IN: Booze Man sure is a moran! Can't believe I have to sit next to him he smells like Gin and Tonic!

Notice Booze Man's wife (I am assuming that is who that is). Her head immediately snaps back to her plate imo saying, "Oh God...please make him shutup! This is embarrassing."

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Response to Rex (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:16 PM

62. yep.

Booze Man. Lol!

Tipsy McStaggers.

Yeesh, that was actually the name of a bar around here. Yecch. How cheezy.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:28 PM

38. Perhaps he made a bad joke. Did you see his RNC speech? He makes a lot of them.

The President humored him. Briefly.

Nobody else did.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:34 PM

43. Cheetos! - LOL!

Where are the lip readers when you need them?

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:35 PM

44. Mrs. Boehner looks like she agrees with Michelle

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:43 PM

48. The President and Boner made some sort of

Arcane reference/joke to Star Trek or said something like, "These aren't the droids you're looking for," or some other quote from a movie loved by nerds, and Michelle reacted like all of my girlfriends and most other women do when guys are guys.

TlalocW

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:44 PM

49. Anyone read lips?

Seriously, there have been so many political scenes and circumstances--where lip reading was very much needed.

This is one of those circumstances!

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:03 PM

58. haaaaa! Apparently, someone did exactly that!

There's a thread up now. (I don't have the link...I'm on my mobile)

Seems Boner was an Oaf!


Color me orange surprised.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:53 PM

50. Pretty spot on!

I love the eye roll!!!!!!!!

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Response to Phentex (Reply #50)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:18 PM

63. she does not suffer fools gladly.

Seems like.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:57 PM

51. Boner is bitchin about the peas on his plate

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Response to randr (Reply #51)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:20 PM

64. of course. You know how repukes feel

About peace peas.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:52 PM

56. Yep. Boehner put his foot it in. Michelle's expression is priceless. nt

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:47 PM

67. I don't know what was going on in this particular situation, but

I know what this eye-roll means when I do it. It is my stock response to jokes about women that I am supposed to think are funny. I have made this same face for 60 years.

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Response to erinlough (Reply #67)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:50 PM

69. right on. every woman knows it and a few men defend the "joke" that the woman is just being

too sensitive.

arguing with a dude telling me tis funny, michelle being too sensitive.

this is supose to be the joke: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022240438#post1

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #69)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:00 PM

70. This makes sense, and that kind of joke is what I was talking about.

for confirmation watch the behavior of his wife. It is not that she really needed something in her purse, she is uncomfortable.

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Response to erinlough (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:15 PM

71. ya. exactly. all us women that have been around men that make this joke

behave just like this. BUT... there sure is a battle with men telling us we once again, dont know what the fuck we are talking about.

truly amazing. i have a better understanding why men repeat the same tired and old jokes. even when women tell them they arent funny, they ignore. cause it isnt about the women, it is a buddy buddy mock the woman joke.

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