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Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:20 PM

What is Project Echelon?

ECHELON is the term popularly used for an automated global interception and relay system operated by the intelligence agencies in five nations: the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (it is believed that ECHELON is the code name for the portion of the system that intercepts satellite-based communications). While the United States National Security Agency (NSA) takes the lead, ECHELON works in conjunction with other intelligence agencies, including the Australian Defence Signals Directorate (DSD). It is believed that ECHELON also works with Britain's Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) and the agencies of other allies of the United States, pursuant to various treaties. (1)

These countries coordinate their activities pursuant to the UKUSA agreement, which dates back to 1947. The original ECHELON dates back to 1971. However, its capabilities and priorities have expanded greatly since its formation. According to reports, it is capable of intercepting and processing many types of transmissions, throughout the globe. In fact, it has been suggested that ECHELON may intercept as many as 3 billion communications everyday, including phone calls, e-mail messages, Internet downloads, satellite transmissions, and so on. (2) The ECHELON system gathers all of these transmissions indiscriminately, then distills the information that is most heavily desired through artificial intelligence programs. Some sources have claimed that ECHELON sifts through an estimated 90 percent of all traffic that flows through the Internet. (3)

ECHELON apparently collects data in several ways. Reports suggest it has massive ground based radio antennae to intercept satellite transmissions. In addition, some sites reputedly are tasked with tapping surface traffic. These antennae reportedly are in the United States, Italy, England, Turkey, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, and several other places.
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Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #9
TreasonousBastard Jan 2013 #11
RKP5637 Jan 2013 #12
Berlum Jan 2013 #15
Brother Buzz Jan 2013 #18
Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2013 #5
moondust Jan 2013 #8
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Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #3
Taverner Jan 2013 #4
Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2013 #6
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RKP5637 Jan 2013 #16
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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:21 PM

1. Got anything more recent than 2005?...nt

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:24 PM

2. Now all legacy vintage compute cycles are eaten up just tracking DU! lol n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:08 AM

9. WE can smoke those old tubes if we feed them the right words

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:19 AM

11. Back when Homeland Security was gearing up and...

things were approaching silly, I tried to start a movement hat every Usenet post, email, web posting, or other communication have at least one of those terms in it.

Even without my feeble effort, I'm curious if they now have too much Twitter traffic and texting overwhelming their supercomputers on top of all those emails and web posts. And have their algorithms taken into account autocorrect?

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:26 PM

12. That should do it!

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:31 PM

15. The onus is on CONUS (the heinous is on the anus)

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Response to Berlum (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:43 PM

18. Swordfish

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:08 PM

5. I don't intend to take the time to provide sources, but...

The Chinese government has set a goal to launch at least 20 new orbiting satellites a year for the next four years; and they do not need to petition their legislative bodies, like the U.S.A. and Great Britain do to obtain funding. DHS got a BIG black eye several years ago for launching "spy satellites." LOL! I'm sure glad CSS and CIA satellites don't "spy" on people. Much of what Echelon does these days pertains to satellites, aircraft and clandestine ground receiving stations, which relay code in a variety of ways.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:53 AM

8. Here ya go:

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Response to moondust (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:29 PM

13. Like anyone up to real no good is going to do an APB by normal communication means ... This is

great for the profiteers and more $$$$$.

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:29 PM

3. I just think of it as a giant network vacuum cleaner, a Stasi wet dream,

the ur planetary dossier generator, or "all your data are belong to us".

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:32 PM

4. ECHELON is old tech

 

The stuff the NSA has now that they can wiretap without impunity can track anyone and their conversations at will....

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Response to Taverner (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 11:51 PM

6. Did you know...

The NSA was not even known for eavesdropping prior to the George W Bush Jr administration? Before Bush they were commonly known as No Such Agency (NSA) which gathered and coordinated signals intelligence from a wide variety of sources, while gaining respect as the world's greatest code makers and breakers. Prior to their formal formation in 1952 military groups from every branch of the armed forces stumbled all over each other as the CIA consistently put in a bid for the power to control and coordinate ALL U.S. signals intelligence. During Vietnam, low flying NSA pilots gathering signals intelligence were shot down. Parachuting to safety simply earned these brave pilots a stay in the Hanoi Hilton, where they were usually tortured to death.

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:59 AM

10. There is a regulation that prohibits NSA surveillance of Americans

It is called United States Signals Intelligence Directive 18. You can google "USSID 18" and read it yourself.

As soon as you are let into an area where items classified as high as USSID 18 are allowed to be handled, they teach you everything about USSID 18.

The first rule of Spying On Americans is, you do not Spy On Americans.

The second rule of Spying On Americans is, you do not Spy On Americans.

I know this sounds a bit like the rules of Fight Club, but the third rule is, if you accidentally DO Spy On Americans there is a very long list of things you have to do to destroy anything you got. I did not say "cover it up," but "destroy." This is not something you do. This is not something you WANT to do. There are all the commies in the world who need spying on to occupy your time.

Read about the USS Liberty incident - she was a technical ship the Israelis attempted to sink during the Six Days War. The captain, William McGonagle, remains the only person in the history of this country to receive the Medal of Honor for his actions when he was attacked by an ally of the United States. Read about the USS Pueblo incident - another technical ship, the North Koreans boarded her in international waters, captured the ship with all hands, and took them a North Korean harbor. The crew spent eleven months in a North Korean prison eating fish heads and rice and getting the shit kicked out of them three times a day, and the DPRK still holds the ship. NSA people have no shortage of bravery.

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:12 AM

19. KICK

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:34 AM

7. Echelon

In my opinion you can take help by watching movie named echelon conspiracy which will explain you about what it is exactly.

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Response to jafranklin05 (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:35 PM

16. Looks interesting, thanks for the post! n/t

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:30 PM

14. The good news is that very little data travels over satellite links

terrestrial fiber optic cables carry well over 90% of the world's data.

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:44 PM

17. I was part of this for just a little while before moving on...

The team I was part of were charged with keeping track of sleeper 1000+ horsepower vehicles for when the shit goes down...



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