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Mon Jan 21, 2013, 09:41 PM

Mentally ill man who killed his mother and was committed obtains MN gun permit and buys 13 guns

They knew the Delano house far too well. It was where Christian Philip Oberender, then 14 years old, had murdered his mother in a shotgun ambush in the family rec room in 1995.

Now, 18 years later, Carver County Sheriff Jim Olson was sending his deputies back to the home where Oberender still lives. Just two days earlier, Olson had scanned the day's shift reports and froze when he tripped over Oberender's name. A scan of a Facebook page then showed firearms spread out like a child's trophies on a bed inside the home, along with notes about the Newtown, Conn., gunman who shot 20 children to death.

What Olson's deputies found in the home was chilling: 13 guns, including semi-automatic rifles, an AK-47, a Tommy gun, assorted shotguns and handguns, including a .50-caliber Desert Eagle.

Even more disturbing was the letter Oberender had written recently to his late mother, Mary: "I am so homicide,'' it said in broken sentences. "I think about killing all the time. The monster want out. He only been out one time and someone die.''


http://www.startribune.com/local/west/187610601.html?refer=y&refer=y

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Reply Mentally ill man who killed his mother and was committed obtains MN gun permit and buys 13 guns (Original post)
Redfairen Jan 2013 OP
Deep13 Jan 2013 #1
dimbear Jan 2013 #2
freshwest Jan 2013 #3
Skittles Jan 2013 #4
ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #5

Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 09:54 PM

1. Well, what could possibly go wrong?

Apparently, Facebook is now our official background check. Jesus.

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Response to Redfairen (Original post)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:12 PM

2. Those guns cost big bucks and this guy is obviously a moron in the clinical sense.

How does this compute in hard times?

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Response to dimbear (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 21, 2013, 10:20 PM

3. The story is a bit more complicated than at first glance. I went all the way through.

He had a job and his friends truly thought he was okay. He was going through this alone and needed help. The letter seemed to say he wanted to be stopped from acting on the impulses he could not control.

In my state when a person is involuntarily committed, it is a diversion program to keep them out of prison. If there is proof of a lack of judgement or reasoning ability or impulse control, will they not be charged with a crime, they will recieve treatment.

Some need social services for life. Their disabilities are severe enough to warrant protection more than most people imagine. They are not criminals but are unable to function as others expect. They will never be permitted own a firearm, it's a prohibition in the court order.

The cutting back of social services for this man is the cause of this. I'm so glad that his problem was revealed and he will get some treatment and supervision.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:59 AM

4. correct

it is a very sad situation; he desperately needs help

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