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kpete Jan 2012 OP
yourout Jan 2012 #1
ingac70 Jan 2012 #2
nanabugg Jan 2012 #13
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #14
ingac70 Jan 2012 #3
Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #4
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #6
pipi_k Jan 2012 #28
Initech Jan 2012 #7
Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #10
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #12
Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #15
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #16
karynnj Jan 2012 #23
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #26
Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #5
Curmudgeoness Jan 2012 #8
graywarrior Jan 2012 #9
madokie Jan 2012 #11
NavyDem Jan 2012 #17
WCGreen Jan 2012 #18
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #19
WCGreen Jan 2012 #20
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #22
WCGreen Jan 2012 #24
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #27
romantico Jan 2012 #21
Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #25
riderinthestorm Jan 2012 #29
SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2012 #30
Ilsa Jan 2012 #31
hayrow1 Jan 2012 #32

Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:25 PM

1. time to update the resume.

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Response to yourout (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:27 PM

2. +1

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Response to yourout (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:40 PM

13. Are they going to follow you into the voting booth?

 

How will they tell for whom you vote?

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Response to nanabugg (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:43 PM

14. They can't force it

And they can't threaten you, other than to say that if you vote for Obama, you're voting for someone that can cause you to lose your job through his policies.

Sucks for sure.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:28 PM

3. Time to put a Newt sticker on the car. ;)

LOL

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:28 PM

4. federal election violations ??

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:33 PM

6. Doubtful

If the parking lot is private property, the owner probably has the right to determine what can/can't be on the cars of employees. Not sure, just a guess.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:25 PM

28. So would it be considered

vandalism to put Obama bumper stickers on all the upper management vehicles?

If one were to be caught, that is....



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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:34 PM

7. Thanks to CU, this is now legal, and it's gonna get worse.

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Response to Initech (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:37 PM

10. The reason I ask

If I pay some one to work on a campaign
am I not contributing to a campaign and
then should the campaign have to claim that contribution
and then is not the company subject to campaign contribution laws??????

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:39 PM

12. Campaign contribution laws

Pertain to actual contributions, not salaries for people working on campaigns.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:45 PM

15. I thought they also covered contributions in kind

So I could print up campaign fliers for a candidate that cost $2 million and that would be okay??

Just trying to clarify.........

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #15)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:48 PM

16. Printing fliers and paying salaries

are two completely different things.

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:17 PM

23. Excellent point

I think companies can not directly contribute to candidates - even the PACs are not suppose to be company money.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:22 PM

26. Companies can donate to candidates nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:32 PM

5. Vince "Steroids" McMahon has and informal policy

of openly promoting Republican candidates at the WWE workplace.

This person should contact an attorney as well as the state's Attorney General.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:35 PM

8. And how will they know who you vote for?

Scary.

I suppose that I could live with the no bumper stickers to keep a good job, if it is a good job. But that is as far as I would go. Then again, my reputation is such that I might push this to the limit and force a showdown....and my boss would surely expect it from me. If he knows nothing else, he knows that ultimatums are going to get the wrong reaction from me.

This is a serious problem, when it is acceptable to threaten employees regarding their political opinions.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:37 PM

9. Unbelievable.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:37 PM

11. I'd take that to the DA and let him see what he thinks

I think several laws are being broken there but not sure. In todays labor market for old aholes like me I'd probably just go remove my Obama sticker and keep my mouth shut though. go along get along

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 07:58 PM

17. Is the paid campaigning day going to include an escort from the campaign?

If not, I'd take the day off with pay, and go out and campaign for President Obama

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:08 PM

18. I believe you should find a hungry attorney and file a civil suit against this ass hat....

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:10 PM

19. Based on what? n/t

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:12 PM

20. That they are infringing on his right to vote and exchange ideas...

In a civil course it doesn't ahve to be cut and dried.

Not saying it is easy, but it can be done.

But overt warnings about who to vote for is clearly crossing the line...

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:16 PM

22. What overt warnings?

Sorry, I just don't see the overt threat.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:20 PM

24. The warnoing is implied in the message that reelecting Obama would effect

their jobs...

That's pretty cut and clear to me.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:24 PM

27. If a warning is implied

It isn't overt

"Tell me that you voted for Obama and you're fired" is an overt warning (threat, actually) not to vote for him.

"Vote for Obama and your job may be at risk because his policies will harm this company" is not an overt warning not to vote for him

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:14 PM

21. This

This all sounds illegal to me. A boss telling you that you can not express your political views by a bumper sticker? I can see not endorsing a candidate while representing the company you work for but all this other crap sounds like they are running a dictatorship. This does not sound American, IMO. I hope we get updates on this story. I can not see how any of this is legal.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:21 PM

25. Welcome to the real world! It's best for employees to keep politics away from workplace.

I work at a firm that is largely Republican. Our clients are mainly Republican. We've never been told not to have bumper stickers or whatever, but it's common sense that it wouldn't be appreciated. That doesn't mean I don't say who I voted for, if I'm asked, or who I probably will vote for.

Ever hear the expression "Don't bite the hand that feeds you?"

It's not a big deal. Vote how you want.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:26 PM

29. Your car is your private property! How can they tell you what you can do with that?

Especially since it's not as though you are bringing the stickers into the office....

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Response to riderinthestorm (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:28 PM

30. If it's a private parking lot

They most likely can.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:39 PM

31. I would volunteer to do the campaign work,

Take their flyers and trash them. Or go do door-to-door and be so obnoxious that they'll vote for Pat Paulson!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 25, 2012, 08:51 PM

32. Years ago I got into trouble at work for exposing the "Ted Nugent" rant lie

 

Management was sending it to everyone to read. I sent everyone an e-mail exposing it as being a lie, and not from Ted Nuggent.

The management of the company you work for will get over it. This is capitalism. If you are not already earning for your company one heck of a lot more than they are paying you, you would have been gone a long time ago. Trust me, these Repukes do not know loyalty or respect loyalty. They are not letting you work there because they like you or are being kind.

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