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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:35 PM

 

Horse meat discovered in the world's hamburger supply

Just in time for those sitting down to meat loaf and mashed 'taters.

It has been confirmed by international authorities that large portions of horse meat have been found to be intermingled with ground beef used in hamburger. The majority of the contaminated meat was found in Ireland and Great Brittan.

The largest grocery store chain in the United Kingdom, Tesco, attempted to apologize to its millions of customers but the damage has already been done and the global demand for meat has already shown a sharp decline in the days after the discovery was made public. Tests reported by CNN.com found that in some instances as much as 29% of a hamburger package contained horse meat. That means that for every ten hamburgers made, three were comprised entirely of horse meat.

While horse is the main intrigue and outrage it was not the only foreign meat discovered. A shocking 23 out of 25 packages of hamburger were found to contain traces of pork DNA. You thought you were getting ground beef, and you were actually getting ground beef, pork, and horse.

To make matters worse it is a taboo in the Catholic religion to eat horse, which has been ordained by the Vatican for over 1,000 years. Among those of the Jewish and Muslim faiths, it is a spiritual taboo to eat pork. It is not known how long the contamination has been allowed to happen, or how many people's religious beliefs have been violated.

http://www.examiner.com/article/horse-meat-discovered-the-world-s-hamburger-supply

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Reply Horse meat discovered in the world's hamburger supply (Original post)
Whovian Jan 2013 OP
jberryhill Jan 2013 #1
Purveyor Jan 2013 #7
RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #43
MrSlayer Jan 2013 #2
silverweb Jan 2013 #3
RebelOne Jan 2013 #48
Walk away Jan 2013 #4
Whovian Jan 2013 #5
Walk away Jan 2013 #38
siligut Jan 2013 #6
Cleita Jan 2013 #22
Walk away Jan 2013 #39
eppur_se_muova Jan 2013 #8
jberryhill Jan 2013 #27
solara Jan 2013 #9
HappyMe Jan 2013 #12
solara Jan 2013 #31
pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #34
solara Jan 2013 #37
lpbk2713 Jan 2013 #10
nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #11
ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #28
Retrograde Jan 2013 #13
Squinch Jan 2013 #14
Wednesdays Jan 2013 #18
Cerridwen Jan 2013 #24
Retrograde Jan 2013 #33
Cerridwen Jan 2013 #47
KitSileya Jan 2013 #46
malaise Jan 2013 #15
KamaAina Jan 2013 #16
WinkyDink Jan 2013 #17
Separation Jan 2013 #19
pinboy3niner Jan 2013 #23
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #20
jberryhill Jan 2013 #26
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #32
Cleita Jan 2013 #21
DonRedwood Jan 2013 #30
TheManInTheMac Jan 2013 #25
MattBaggins Jan 2013 #35
TheManInTheMac Jan 2013 #49
DonRedwood Jan 2013 #29
Iggo Jan 2013 #36
mrs_p Jan 2013 #40
OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #41
RedCappedBandit Jan 2013 #42
littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #44
littlemissmartypants Jan 2013 #45

Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:38 PM

1. The real shocker is that they found any actual meat in it

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:58 PM

7. Indeed! +1 eom

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:40 AM

43. Haha

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:39 PM

2. That's why you go to the butcher.

 

And never, ever eat fast food burgers.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:41 PM

3. Glad to be a vegetarian!

One side benefit of this episode: "...the global demand for meat has already shown a sharp decline in the days after the discovery was made public."

Makes you wonder what ELSE might be in that burger, doesn't it?

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Response to silverweb (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:41 AM

48. Same here. Glad I only eat veggie burgers. n/t

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:44 PM

4. Suddenly Quinoa Burgers are actually sounding edible!

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Response to Walk away (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:47 PM

5. LOL! I eat chips with a lot of quinoa in them.

 

But the resulting hairy palms are embarrassing.

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Response to Whovian (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:47 PM

38. I actualy like quinoa in salads etc but I hate food pretending to be...

something it is not!

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:52 PM

6. This made the news about 30 yrs ago

I wonder if horse meat ever actually stopped being added to beef between then and now.

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Response to siligut (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:25 PM

22. DH and I used to go to a French restaurant that had

steak au cheval on the menu. I wonder how many Americans who didn't know French ordered it and never knew they were eating Mr. Ed.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:48 PM

39. Wilber! Stop! nt

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:08 PM

8. Shocked ... just shocked ...

Chopped-up animal parts look pretty much alike, why think any of it is uncontaminated by anything ?

I wonder if they tested for human DNA ?

I'm amazed at the implication in the article that somehow the horsemeat and "other" meat were cooked into separate patties ...

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Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:02 PM

27. Who knows....


I suppose next we'll find out that they've been selling baby oil from something other than 100% actual babies.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:12 PM

9. There is a "World Hamburger Supply"?

Who knew?

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Response to solara (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:17 PM

12. Yeah, their headquarters is

across the street from the World Hamburger Buns Supply.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:16 PM

31. Heehee


Oh you mean it's near the World Cheese Consortium?



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Response to solara (Reply #31)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:05 PM

34. And also near the World Sesame Seed campus

Which is just catty-corner from the World Pickle Slicing Subsidiary.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #34)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:11 PM

37. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:12 PM

10. They don't say what portion was roaches, worms, maggots, rats etc.




But there's no doubt in my mind they would find some if they were to look.


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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:14 PM

11. If you are going to eat meat, what difference does it make?

Why are horses and dogs more sacred than cows and pigs?

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:04 PM

28. My subjective list of animals by value.

1st: Humans
2nd: Neither human nor mosquito
3rd: Mosquitos

1st is most valuable.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:20 PM

13. Horsemeat is taboo for Catholics?

12 years in Catholic schools and they never told me that. Someone should tell the (at least nominally) Catholic French and Italians about this.

Popes have said a lot of things that the Church membership cheerfully ignores - and which have changed over time. This sounds like one of those internet fact-like phrases that gets passed around by people who limit their research to the first Google hits they find without checking primary sources.

Anyway, horsemeat is IMHO tastier than cow.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:24 PM

14. Also 12 years in Catholic schools. Never heard that Catholics can't eat horse meat

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:07 PM

18. "Horsemeat is tastier IMHO than cow"

When I was about to try a buffalo burger (bison, if you want to be accurate) for the first time, I was afraid it would taste weird or "gamey." I was taken completely by surprise. To me, it tasted something like char-broiled sirloin steak. So, it's something I've enjoyed whenever I could (it's a tad on the expensive side, compared with beef). And bison meat is healthier... I think it has something like one–quarter less fat than beef or pork.

So, yeah. Not all meat is necessarily seafood, poultry, beef, pork, or lamb. There are other things out there.

Edit: and they don't all "taste like chicken."

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:39 PM

24. Pope Gregory III equated it with pagan practices. (2nd edit)

As such, well, you know how the church feels about pagans and pagan practices.

A link with some smidge of background:

http://www.skynews.com.au/world/article.aspx?id=836969

I'm still searching for something pointing to primary sources as so far all the hits I get are tertiary about Pope Gregory.

eta: Found this via wiki:

Unmentionable Cuisine
By Calvin W. Schwabe
1979


Page 157-8

In pre-Christian times, horesemeat eating in norther Europe figured predominently in Teutonic religious ceremonies, particularly those associated with the worship of the god Odin. So much so, in fact, that in A.D. 732 Pope Gregory III began a concerted effort to stop this pagan practice, and it has been said that the Icelandic people specifically were reluctant to embrach Christianity for some time larely over the issue of their giving up horsemeat. In Sweden these many years later, horsemeat still outsells lam and mutton combined.

http://books.google.com/books?id=SiBntk9jGmoC&q=horse#v=snippet&q=horse&f=false

Still looking...

2nd edit:

From
US National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2034431/

Article from Canadian Veterinary Journal

Food avoidances and taboos have historically been based on religion, or have functioned to demonstrate social status differences between individuals and social groupings (18). Although Leviticus is silent on the specific issue of horse (19), in 723, Pope Gregory III indicated that the eating of horses was a ‘filthy and abominable custom’ in his instructions to Boniface, Bishop to the Germans (20). In Ireland, the Canones hibernenses, which date from the 7th century, impose an unusually harsh penance of 4 y on bread and water for the consumption of horsemeat (20). The explanation of this nonbiblically based Canon Law is that the consumption of horsemeat was associated with pre-Christian Celtic and Teutonic religious sacrifice (20,21). The church condemnation of horsemeat consumption was directed to suppressing pagan practices and distinguishing the Christian from the heathen (20,21).


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Response to Cerridwen (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:01 PM

33. And Gregory XVI banned railroads in the Papal States

calling them chemins d'enfer, or roads to hell, a play on chemin de fers. As far as I know, Catholics are currently allowed to travel by train. Point is, papal opinion - and even papal decrees - aren't necessarily dogma. Now if the current pope were to speak ex cathedra and declare meat was murder....

(Kudos for bringing up Unmentionable Cuisine: it's one of my favorite cookbooks.)

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:24 AM

47. I was pointing out the source.

That was my point.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:43 AM

46. It originated in the times when pagans sacrificed horses and ate the meat.

For example, in Norway it was common to sacrifice horses and eat the meat at blot, the religious ceremonies. At any other times, you didn't eat horse meat, so if a Christian ate it, it automatically meant that he or she participated in pagan ceremonies, which of course Christians weren't supposed to do. The emphasis on Catholics in the article comes from the fact that Protestants don't have a history that goes back to these times, and therefore discarded this rule when they broke from the Catholic Church.

These days, it is not uncommon for Norwegians to eat horse meat in the form of slices of the traditional mutton sausages we put on sandwiches. I think most don't realize many of these contain horse meat, tho', as they're called mutton sausage, and how many read the ingredient list of things you've eaten since childhood?

As for the hamburger - it makes me glad that I never eat ground beef that hasn't been made by my vocational students, and that Norway never joined the EU, so that we kept our strict rules regarding food production. We also have a much smaller incident rate for salmonella than Denmark and Sweden, for example, who had to relax their rules when they joined. That's another reason why the Big Mac costs so much in Norway - McDonald's can't employ the same cost-cutting measures they do elsewhere.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:24 PM

15. Capitalism has gone mad

Thankfully we eat seafood and bird.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:33 PM

16. Great Brittan?

I knew the Examiner was a cat box liner, but whoa!

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:40 PM

17. No such edict against horsemeat in Catholicism. Has the writer not been to France?

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:13 PM

19. I remember as a kid a tale I heard

That Wendy's was using horse meat. I do t know if that was true, but I remember hearing it all the time.

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Response to Separation (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:30 PM

23. A SoCal Bob's Big Boy got busted for it in the '60s

It became part of the local folklore.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:14 PM

20. Contaminated?

What an odd word to use in reference to horse meat. Really we should be more worried about the hormones and antibiotics that contaminate meat rather than what kind of meat it is.

And that is why I don't eat meat anymore. Growth hormones can't be good for a persons body.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:57 PM

26. Really....


"Hey, someone put meat in my meat!"

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #26)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:48 PM

32. Ha ha that's what I was thinking nt.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:19 PM

21. I grind my own. I just hope that the chunk of beef I buy is really

beef and not something else. Of course I live in California however, I have noticed that the beef in the meat case is sometimes labeled as being from Canada or other places that are even further away.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:07 PM

30. soylent green!

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:53 PM

25. So?

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Response to TheManInTheMac (Reply #25)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:06 PM

35. I have had horse meat many times

It is quite tasty.

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Response to MattBaggins (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 09:57 AM

49. I don't remember having any, but I understand it was quite common in the US

in the 1970's. It is still consumed in Europe quite often. It's really just a cultural thing.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:07 PM

29. But the mainstream media has been saying they just found "horse DNA'...they made it sound like

just a teenie tiny bit of horse got in there. Maybe part of an ear maybe, or just a little bit of hoof.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:10 PM

36. Better than pink slime.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:57 PM

40. The only surprising piece in the section posted above

is the part about Catholics not eating horse meat. I have never, ever heard of that in my 12+ years of Catholic school, then as an aspirant in an Catholic order. Not that it is untrue - just not something that was officially taught to me.

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:09 AM

41. In 1982 horse meat was found in the US Navy's food supply in New England.....

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Response to Whovian (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:40 AM

42. What difference does it even make

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