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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:56 AM

 

How long will this person remain in the Republican Party?

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/17/christie-nra-is-reprehensible-for-targeting-obamas-daughters/

Christie: NRA is ‘reprehensible’ for targeting Obama’s daughters

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Reply How long will this person remain in the Republican Party? (Original post)
IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 OP
tk2kewl Jan 2013 #1
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #2
IWelcome TheirHatred Jan 2013 #5
Scuba Jan 2013 #11
silvershadow Jan 2013 #14
Iris Jan 2013 #25
truebluegreen Jan 2013 #28
HERVEPA Jan 2013 #3
JaneyVee Jan 2013 #4
Autumn Jan 2013 #6
peace13 Jan 2013 #7
Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #8
HERVEPA Jan 2013 #9
stevenleser Jan 2013 #12
HERVEPA Jan 2013 #15
stevenleser Jan 2013 #17
HERVEPA Jan 2013 #18
randome Jan 2013 #19
MadHound Jan 2013 #10
emulatorloo Jan 2013 #13
MadHound Jan 2013 #16
emulatorloo Jan 2013 #24
Marrah_G Jan 2013 #20
NCTraveler Jan 2013 #21
NCTraveler Jan 2013 #22
graham4anything Jan 2013 #26
TexasTowelie Jan 2013 #27
graham4anything Jan 2013 #29
NCTraveler Jan 2013 #31
NCTraveler Jan 2013 #23
DFW Jan 2013 #30
dembotoz Jan 2013 #32
UTUSN Jan 2013 #33

Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:58 AM

1. forever

he is a lout

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:59 AM

2. 20 minutes.

Tops.

I dunno--Independent is more likely, but some of his sort become DINOs if they end up in Congress, just to get some nice committee assignments.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:01 AM

5. it's a pretty ingenious system ain't it?

 

move your party to the extreme rightwing at which point center-right types switch parties ensuring a rightward march of both parties.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:42 AM

11. Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:13 PM

14. Yuuup. nt

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:47 AM

25. Sigh...

I'm afraid you are right

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 06:54 AM

28. This. n/t

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:01 AM

3. Why would you think he would leave?

He is solidly conservative / right wing.
He is in New Jersey so needs to appear somewhat moderate SOMETIMES.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:01 AM

4. He's still a douche, albeit a slightly less douche than most of his party but thats because the bar

is set so low for the GOP. These days people applaud even their shallow attempts at basic humanity.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:02 AM

6. Till he's dead. I sure as shit don't want him in the Democratic Party

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:02 AM

7. Follow the meal ticket.

I just can't quit you!

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:03 AM

8. The irony is, that by actually talking sense,

he is ruining any possibility of winning a Republican Primary.

I would not be at all surprised to see him leave the Republican party, become an independent, and be selected as the Dem candidate's running-mate in 2016 (kind of like what John McCain tried to do with Joe Lieberman, but in reverse). A combination of the Democratic vote and the moderate Republican vote would be hard to beat. Especially by a crazy Tea Party candidate.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:05 AM

9. Your ideas here are totally disconnected from reality.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:45 AM

12. The part about the Republican primary is not. He's moving himself into Giuliani territory.

Right now there is zero chance of Christie winning the Repug Presidential nomination. ZERO.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:09 PM

15. I disagree. The NJ rethugs are not as crazy as most of the others.

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:16 PM

17. Was this response for me? I'm just saying that he is done as a Repug Presidential candidate in 2016

He is now officially not wingnutty enough.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:38 PM

18. Right. Sorry.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:42 PM

19. Four years is a long time. We may not recognize what's left of the GOP by then.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:07 AM

10. Probably until after his next election,

 

Then the Dems will welcome him in with open arms and demand that we should support him once he has a D behind his name.

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Response to MadHound (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:04 PM

13. Your crystal ball needs servicing

Christie is positioning himself to be the "moderate" savior of the Republican Party and a run in 2016 as an "electable" Republican. He's to the right of every mainstream Democrat. He is not going to become a Democrat, and no Democrat is going to claim you need to "support" him.

Your crystal ball has been become unbalanced - it is emitting too much hyperbole, disinformation, and anti-Democratic spin. It has almost turned itself into the teabagger model, it is that out of touch with reality.

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:12 PM

16. Yeah, that'll last until Christy gets his ass handed to him by the tea party in the primaries.

 

Then he'll come on over. Hell, he might come on over before the election if the tea party makes it too hot for him. Look at what Specter and Christi did.

We'll see, but my guess is I'll get to have the last laugh on this one, as rueful a laugh as it will be.

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Response to MadHound (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 04:46 AM

24. Tea party types are marching themselves over the cliff.

Those tools are finished, they just don,t know it yet.


Exhibit A - automaton Rand Paul
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014373515

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:43 PM

20. I think he will go independant before long

I don't think he fits with either party

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:45 PM

21. I guess he could leave them and become a representative of the tea party.

He is a right wing nut job.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:51 PM

22. Sounds like a repub to me. Many are not fooled by the likes of Crist and Christie.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/08/chris-christie-union-bill-new-jersey-collective-bargaining_n_873636.html

TRENTON, N.J. -- New Jersey's Republican governor and Democratic state Senate president reached a deal Wednesday on legislation that would make public employees pay more for pension and health benefits, but Assembly Democrats refused to go along, leaving the bill's prospects in doubt.

The deal, which would have to be passed by both houses, is intended to shore up the underfunded systems by requiring bigger contributions from all public workers beginning July 1, a person who has been briefed told The Associated Press. The person insisted on anonymity because the deal has not been made official.

It also would mean that public workers' health benefits would be legislated, not negotiated, as they are now. Gov. Chris Christie has been pushing for legislative changes; union leaders have been opposed.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:21 AM

26. you shouldn't lump the two together

 

I myself always liked Charlie Crist, because he was the ONE and only repub who spit in Jeb Bush's face and did so quite publicly twice.

and Charlie did things that other repubs never did, on issues taking opposite stances many times.

But back to Christie-I started my own thread on this about 24 hours ago.

It is not what Christie really is (I know the real Chris Christie and he is NOT on my side on about every issue
However, it is what the nation knows of him after Sandy (and probably never heard of him before).

I don't see any way of him beating Hillary.
however, it is not out of the realm of him being with Hillary

and running independent or as Jeb's VP
( I think Chrsitie is trying to do what Jeb is doing, being the sane voice in a field of insanity in that party, but Jeb has the machine, Chrisite has no one

John Kerry in 2004 asked (and Kerry fans deny this but it is true) McCain to be his VP and he was turned down and forced to take fraudEdwards.

Politics is odd and opportunistic

I don't think Christie will ever be President.
But I do think he easily could be VP with someone

(and I hate 3rd parties (especially after Nader)and think they will never win, so it would either be Dem/Repub. not independent 3rd party).

btw-let's say he is on ticket with Jeb and they win PA-
this is why I am not worried about PA changing their rules of electoral votes to district if it happens. Because in this scenerio, the repubs wuold not win all the electoral votes, and Hillary would benefit by winning a good portion even if Jeb/Christie won that state.
(They will NEVER win NJ, it is far too blue and NJ won't be snookied into voting for a Bush)

but one helleva iconic picture is coming early summer-
that will be Chris Christie on the new boardwalk rebuilt after Sandy tore it down in Seaside Heights, NJ, probably at the opening with President Obama on one side and Bruce Springsteen on the other.
And that will be a picture used a zillion times afterward by CC.
mark my word on that.
(and a new roller coaster, maybe CC will be in the front seat, hands raised for the first ride)

we may not like that, but that picture will be there.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:51 AM

27. Snookied?

I thought it was snookered.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 07:10 AM

29. this time it was a play on words (Snookie from the Jersey Shore tv show)

 


much beloved and much hated by New Jerseyites

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 09:20 AM

31. "being the sane voice in a field of insanity in that party"

That is where we disagree. He is not the sane voice of the party. He is a right wing nut job. Unfortunately people just look at what the media wants them to look at(not saying you). So on the one hand your point is valid. The people have been shown how Christie is standing up for the people of NJ with respect to the storm. Governors almost always do that. But it is fake and the media is just using it for the headlines.

Christie is not a sane voice in a field of insanity because he is trying to bring billions to his state after a natural disaster. He is very right wing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022213029#post23

And Crist is a republican. You don't need to go any further than look at the bills he signed as governor of Florida. Every now and then he is right on an issue. He is willing to change his views after he reads polls and how his decisions will benefit his political career. If you ar politically to the right of Hillary, you are a republican, and there is no place in the democratic party for you. That is my opinion.

And since you brought up Hillary, do love her and many of the things she stands for. Other things I truly dislike about her. I began to lover her after she was first lady. Seeing how she dealt with all of the hate was inspiring. And her speech in China on womens rights was amazing. But I truly hope she goes on a speaking tour when her position as SOS is over. I would much rather see someone further to the left run for President.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:11 PM

23. More on Christie and his republican credentials.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie Vetoes Bill To Create Obamacare Health Insurance Exchange
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/06/chris-christie-veto-obamacare_n_2251019.html

Chris Christie Challenges Obama Approach On Gun Control At Town Hall
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/chris-christie-gun-control_n_2495168.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie Calls His State's Teachers Union 'Political Thugs'
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jersey-governor-chris-christie-calls-teachers-union-political/story?id=13310446

Christie on abortion and gay marriage. Guess where he stands.

Gov. Chris Christie backs anti-abortion activists, says 'every life is precious and a gift from God'
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/01/anti-abortion_rally_marks_roe.html

Christie Keeps His Promise to Veto Gay Marriage Bill
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/nyregion/christie-vetoes-gay-marriage-bill.html?_r=0

His extreme right wing credentials are perfectly in line with the republican party.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 07:14 AM

30. He's not going anywhere

He's gambling on the "reasonable" wing of the Republican Party (led by him, by default), prevailing over the crazies, who he thinks will self-destruct sooner than later. He'll have to contend with Jebbie for the title, and even Rubio is showing signs of becoming more literate with respect to the writing on the wall. Christie is first in line, and is counting on his (considerable) visibility to keep him there. So far, he's not wrong.

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 09:36 AM

32. the maverick persona of grumpy old john mc cain almost worked out

his supporters know he is a fellow nazi

the general public think he is middle of the road

watch out 2016

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Response to IWelcome TheirHatred (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 10:55 AM

33. Forever, I hope, because he will be sidelined in the Rethug party. n/t

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