Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:46 PM
diabeticman (781 posts)
seriously, couldn't the NRA ad be considered a threat against the president's daughters?
couldn't secret service make the life difficult of the board of the NRA, the person who made the ad and Wayne La Pierre?
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17 replies, 577 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| diabeticman | Jan 2013 | OP | |
| Zoeisright | Jan 2013 | #1 | |
| calimary | Jan 2013 | #2 | |
| patrice | Jan 2013 | #3 | |
| ProgressiveProfessor | Jan 2013 | #4 | |
| Paladin | Jan 2013 | #5 | |
| ProgressiveProfessor | Jan 2013 | #6 | |
| Paladin | Jan 2013 | #8 | |
| ProgressiveProfessor | Jan 2013 | #11 | |
| Nye Bevan | Jan 2013 | #7 | |
| Puzzledtraveller | Jan 2013 | #9 | |
| quinnox | Jan 2013 | #10 | |
| madokie | Jan 2013 | #12 | |
| loose wheel | Jan 2013 | #13 | |
| dairydog91 | Jan 2013 | #14 | |
| Coyotl | Jan 2013 | #15 | |
| dairydog91 | Jan 2013 | #17 | |
| B2G | Jan 2013 | #16 |
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:47 PM
Zoeisright (7,838 posts)
1. Yes. It is.
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And the SS should visit those asshole cowards every single day.
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Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:51 PM
calimary (30,600 posts)
2. I wish they would. This CERTAINLY qualifies!
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:19 PM
patrice (47,384 posts)
3. Just on statistical probabilities alone, you can predict that about half of the people viewing
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the ad will receive that suggestion and the reception of that suggestion will vary from relatively weak, and subject to counter influence, up to the maximum strength of such a suggestion. These theoretical probabilities are referred to as a normal distribution (a theoretical entity, a.k.a. the Bell Curve, based upon numbers of exposures to, roughly, an "independent variable") and it is what all advertising is built upon and why so much money is spent upon mass-marketing.
There is almost never just one interpretation of an event, no matter what the NRA says, and as history has shown us time and time again, especially in the case of the kind of violence we are talking about here, even, relatively speaking, only a few maximally suggestible people can have enormous effects. |
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:48 PM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
4. It does not reach the threshold of credible threat
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though the Secret Service has considerable discretion in how they do business
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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #4)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:53 PM
Paladin (8,696 posts)
5. Thanks For That Ruling, Professor. Take The Rest Of The Night Off. (nt)
Response to Paladin (Reply #5)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:00 PM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
6. There are legal standards and they matter, at least to some of us
Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #6)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:38 AM
Paladin (8,696 posts)
8. And You're The Final Word On Proper Legal Standards Around Here?
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I don't think so. |
Response to Paladin (Reply #8)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
ProgressiveProfessor (22,144 posts)
11. Never claimed to be
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Others in the thread said it was a real threat I disagreed
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Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:01 PM
Nye Bevan (10,865 posts)
7. Of course not (nt)
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
Puzzledtraveller (1,856 posts)
9. Otra vez?
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
quinnox (15,696 posts)
10. I don't see how
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:40 AM
madokie (36,611 posts)
12. You damn tootin it is
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I don't get to use that phrase often
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Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:45 AM
loose wheel (94 posts)
13. No. Not at all.
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:45 AM
dairydog91 (767 posts)
14. No. It doesn't remotely approach a credible threat.
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Any legal case based on the ad should be giggled out of court on First Amendment grounds.
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Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:46 AM
Coyotl (5,158 posts)
15. Or, an attempt to create one by fostering hatred. When does hate speech cross the line?
Response to Coyotl (Reply #15)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:53 AM
dairydog91 (767 posts)
17. Except it's A-OK to "foster hatred" through speech.
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When does hate speech cross the line?
When it is made with the intent to incite imminent lawless action, and is likely to incite imminent lawless action. The standard is very strict in practice. For example, merely saying "If they drafted me, the first man I'd want in my sights is the President" is protected speech. Is equating Obama with Hitler treasonous? Not under American law. |
Response to diabeticman (Original post)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:49 AM
B2G (1,525 posts)

