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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:16 PM

Are you as well-read as a 10th grader? Take our quiz.

(yes, original headline)

http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/2012/0625/Are-you-as-well-read-as-a-10th-grader-Take-our-quiz/The-Odyssey-by-Homer?google_editors_picks=true

Forty-five US states have adopted the Common Core, a set of standards that spell out what US public school students learn in each grade, from kindergarten to graduation. How would you match up? Test yourself on everything from Ovid to Shakespeare to see how familiar you are with the novels, short stories, plays, and poems that the Core expects 9th and 10th graders to have read.

- Josephine Massey, Contributor, Eoin O'Carroll, Staff

*end of excerpt*

I have no idea on the validity of this, only posting for discussion.

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Reply Are you as well-read as a 10th grader? Take our quiz. (Original post)
steve2470 Jan 2013 OP
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #1
FSogol Jan 2013 #9
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FSogol Jan 2013 #2
sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #8
yardwork Jan 2013 #27
DreamGypsy Jan 2013 #50
steve2470 Jan 2013 #52
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Agschmid Jan 2013 #17
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mcar Jan 2013 #33
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petronius Jan 2013 #11
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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:26 PM

1. Interesting list of books...

I need to read a whole lot more of them. It would be great if kids were encouraged to read more. But, alas too many are given many other things to do.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:43 PM

9. There is a trend to let kids read more narrative Non-fiction these days.

"Cod: A Biography of the Fish That Changed the World," by Mark Kurlansky is a really good choice and I was pleased to see it on this list.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:50 AM

85. I loved this book, both from a historical and an ecological prospective. N/T

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:27 PM

2. My Results:

"You're pretty well read

You like to throw around words like 'Bildungsroman,' 'synecdoche,' and 'anagnorisis.' Please stop."


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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:40 PM

8. Same here.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:17 PM

27. I got that too, despite never having heard of some of the books.

Then again it's been a long time since I was in the 10th grade. Lots of good books have been written since then.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:38 PM

50. Ditto.

However, I did have to look up both 'synecdoche,' and 'anagnorisis'.

OH, the shame!

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Response to DreamGypsy (Reply #50)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:41 PM

52. same here, the shame ! :) nt

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:25 PM

83. Same

Some books either came out after me or were never part of the class.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:46 AM

88. That's the result I got.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:28 PM

3. yes I am but then I grew up in a house with tens of thousands of books

in several different languages. I don't believe for a nanosecond that most 16 year old kids in this country have read even a fraction of the literature on that list. fuck, far too many college freshman can't write a simple declarative sentence.

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Response to cali (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:30 PM

79. True that....

I read many classics on my own growing up.

Reading the science text I read in college just took the joy of reading out of me and I haven't read much since.

What I noticed about the list; the books and poems were more multicultural and from multiracial authors. And that is a good thing. Walker and Angelou are writers whose careers I have followed so many I think are post high school for me.

I don't know why I didn't get graded but I now have a list of 12 books and poems to read this year.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:31 PM

4. My results:

"You like to throw around words like 'Bildungsroman,' 'synecdoche,' and 'anagnorisis.' Please stop." I've read most of the older stuff, never heard of some of the newer items.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:17 PM

26. That was me, too. I've read all the older stuff but not the newer non-fiction.

And at least one I said 'never heard of it' and then went and looked it up and found I have read it (48 years ago, but I read it).

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:01 PM

68. I suspect that many of those books were written after I left high school and college

That's when I did the most "serious" reading. I'll bet you could construct a different list that older people would score higher on.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:32 PM

5. Apparently not.

Where are these 10th graders? Who's running their school?

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:32 PM

6. My results:

Your results

You're sort of well read

You could probably hold your own in a literary conversation. But deep down, you'd rather be talking about sports or movies.

That is wrong. I definitely am not into sports and do not watch that many movies.

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Response to RebelOne (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:35 PM

7. Same here. I've read a lot of books, just not those...

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Response to Mass (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:51 PM

14. Exactly n/t

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Response to Mass (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:57 PM

16. I'd read everything by dead white males

And almost nothing else... Says something about education in the 80s.

Still scored well read though.

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Response to RebelOne (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:03 PM

18. I got the same result

And yet, I have one room in my house designated as my library, and books all over the house, on every shelf that will hold them. While I agree that students should be encouraged to read broadly, I object to the very notion of a list of books that makes one 'well read'.

This quiz seems to indicate that if you have read exactly this list of 37 works, you are well read, even if you have only read these 37 works, and if you have read hundred of other works.

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Response to RebelOne (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:48 PM

59. Same here.

I read but it tends to be more fiction and technical stuff.

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Response to RebelOne (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:02 PM

70. Same here n/t

n/t

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Response to RebelOne (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:59 PM

81. Ditto

Way too many poems and a very narrow list of books. No Edith Wharton, no Willa Cather, no Dostoevsky, no Kazantzakis, no Fitzgerald, no Austin, in fact none of the books which, since finishing not just high school and college but also a PhD (though not in literature), I've read or re-read (I decided to add to the list of "classic" I'd read). I can't even remember what I read in HS (although I do remember Antigone and the whole Oedipus series - but not the Odyssey so apparently they don't count). And what if I've read Hamlet but not Macbeth?

A more accurate (although still rather bogus test) would be "have you read these authors"

Plus - I'm an adult now. I read what I WANT to read, not what my teacher or some arbitrary board decides I SHOULD read. I haven't read most of the poems because I don't like poetry.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:43 PM

10. My results ...

You're sort of well read

You could probably hold your own in a literary conversation. But deep down, you'd rather be talking about sports or movies.


I wonder how many of the books were invented?

And why don't I get credit for reading some books multiple times?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:59 PM

17. Yes mine as well...

I was looking for a few I did not see?

- Flowers for Algernon?
- Phantom Tollbooth?
- 1984?
- Lord of The Flies?
- The Outsiders?
- Great Gatsby?

etc... maybe those are older?

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:05 PM

19. Wow ...

- Flowers for Algernon?


I was just talking about that book the other day. I read it in the 5th grade and to this day is one of my favorites. (Poor Charly)

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:06 PM

21. Love the book!

It's got some great allegories and it has stuck with me over a long time.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:10 PM

22. Yep ...

and a cautionary tale, as well.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:22 PM

33. That's what I was wondering

I got the same score but I read constantly and read quite a lot in high school and college (particularly since I was an English major). But I hadn't even heard of many of those books.

As far as those being books for 10th graders, they certainly aren't here in Florida. My son is a 10th grader in an advanced program and he's barely read 3 books in freshman and sophomore year. It kills me.

Freshman year they read Great Expectations - that's it, just the one book. It was an advanced class. In the teacher's defense, they did a lot with grammar and actually diagrammed sentences but one book, albeit a very long one?

This year, he's read two or three. Othello and Romeo and Juliet so they did cover some Shakespeare.

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Response to mcar (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:48 PM

58. I feel the same way!

I got the same results as you, I'm an English major and here in GA I would be shocked if To Kill a Mockingbird was required reading.

I always read the books assigned as I thought reading (except textbooks lol) was the easiest homework as I loved to read.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:48 PM

11. That's weird - I just got this video



and then it redirected me to Faux. Does that mean I'm smarter than a 10th grader?





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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:50 PM

12. Mixed bag. On the one hand, it depends on which state....

...the Tenth Grader is being taught in. Certain new laws and weird decisions have removed "To Kill a Mockingbird" from some places, for example because of it's use of the "N" word. Other states have decided that there should be no books from other perspectives like that of the Native Americans or African Americans (scary!). Louisiana doesn't want books that make kids question or think. So this list isn't accurate for every tenth grader in the country.

And then you've got the problem that the cannon of texts changes every four or five years. So what made one a well read tenth grader ten years ago may not leave one as well read as a tenth grader today. New books are swapped in, old swapped out.

So am I more well read than a tenth grader because I've read books they no longer get to read in tenth grade and likely never will, or am I less well read because they're reading books that weren't even out when I was in tenth grade and that I may not choose to read now?

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

45. Banning "To Kill a Mockingbird" because it contains the "n" word is the absolute dumbest,

most ignorant thing I have ever heard of.

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Response to Nye Bevan (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:43 PM

53. I don't know that it's been banned so much as taken off the reading list....

...but I certainly have to agree. Especially if it's also out of the school library. Same with Huckleberry Finn. Mind you, I only heard this in passing and I don't know which schools where have removed "Mockingbird" from the list because of that.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:51 PM

13. My results:

"You're are the most literate person in the world."

Oops.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:55 PM

15. They say I am pretty well read,

so I guess I am

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:05 PM

20. I got bored with that quiz after 8 questions.

 

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Response to CE5 (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:27 PM

38. I'd imagine your not well read then, huh? n/t

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #38)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:32 PM

46. I am. I just don't fall for gimmicky internet articles.

 

That whore themselves out for clicks by creating content you have to click through 38 times.

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Response to CE5 (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:36 PM

49. Well...

sometimes gimmicky equates with fun... loosen up and stop and smell the roses... have some fun even if it is gimmicky (you already made that website money by hitting the page the first time).

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:11 PM

23. is the list available in non-quiz form?

i got tired of clicking and I can't find it with Google. I found lists but they don't seem to match, for example http://www.scholastic.com/commoncore/common-core-book-list-literature.htm

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Response to Enrique (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:14 PM

24. I have no idea, sorry nt

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Response to Enrique (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:51 PM

61. Yes, it is. Link below:

http://www.corestandards.org/assets/Appendix_B.pdf

However, do read the introductory matter. These lists are not lists that are expected to be read in their entirety. They are "Text Exemplars" which are listed as examples of the quality of material that should be presented at each grade level. There is no expectation whatsoever that students will read the entire list at any grade level.

This whole quiz is bogus, and is based on a misunderstanding of what the "Common Core" standards are about.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #61)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:27 AM

86. thank you!

i agree the quiz is bogus and i'm disappointed in the Christian Science Monitor for dumbing it down.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:14 PM

25. Humbug!

Last edited Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:47 PM - Edit history (4)

Missing from their list are anything from:
Mark Twain,
James Fenimore Cooper,
Earnest Hemingway,
Kenneth Roberts,
Bret Harte,
Lew Wallace,
LLoyd C Douglas,
James A. Michener,
J.R.R. Tolkien,
Terry Goodkind,
P. J. O'Rourke,
Isaac Asimov,
H. G. Wells,
Robert Heinlein,
Aurthur C. Clarke,
Frank Herbert
Leon Uris,
Allen Drury,
Louis L'Amour,
Zane Grey,
Ian Fleming,
John Le Carre,
Agatha Christie,
Geoffery Chaucer
Jean M Auel
Anna Lee Waldo
Emily Bronte
Leo Tolstoy
Stephen Crane
Washington Irving
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ayn Rand (Lots folks here don't like her, but you can't deny that she has been influential.)
George Orwell
Jonathon Swift
Earnie Pyle
...and many other who lack modern trendiness snob appeal. (I am updating my list as I remember other authors.)

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:20 PM

29. I couldn't help but notice that your list has only one woman author on it.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:22 PM

32. I don't choose books by the sex of the author.

That's just the way it worked out.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:24 PM

34. Broaden your horizons. You might like some of the works by women, too.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:38 PM

51. I don't care what sex writes the book, only about the book itself.

But if will make you happy I can add some women that I have read.
Jean M Auel
Anna Lee Waldo (Excellent biography, well researched, of Sacagawea)
Emily Bronte

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Response to yardwork (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:29 PM

39. Toni Morrison was missing as well...

She is an amazing author, and an amazing woman!

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Response to yardwork (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:08 PM

74. self delete

I didn't realize the list had been updated.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:20 PM

30. I've read stuff by ALL of them. I feel so much better.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

42. Yeah, where's Hawthorne, & Dostoevski, & Dylan Thomas, & Yukio Mishima, & Stephen Crane & ...

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Response to patrice (Reply #42)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:44 PM

54. Exactly. N/T

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #54)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:56 PM

66. I mean, I can see them skipping Mark Twain, though he IS Great, because everyone reads Twain.

And what about Charles Dickens?

More poets: Wallace Stevens, Anne Paxton, Sylvia Plath, Gwendolyn Brooks, Pablo Neruda, Marianne Moore, E.E. Cummings

The more I think about it, I bet they just had a big database and created a randomized report somehow.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:54 PM

64. A lot of those

seem to be of the much-maligned "genre fiction" variety.

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Response to theKed (Reply #64)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:03 PM

71. Everything fits into some genre or another.

I included some because they were pioneers in establishing a specific genre.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #71)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:26 PM

76. Oh I know

nad I'm a big fan of more than a few of them. I'm just saying, there are plenty of literary snobs that would turn a nose up to, say, Tolkien, or Asimov, or Herbert.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:19 PM

28. This is what I get for wasting my time with cheeseburger fiction:

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Your results:

You're sort of well read

You could probably hold your own in a literary conversation. But deep down, you'd rather be talking about sports or movies.
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They don't have books like:
Ethan Frome - Edith Wharton
Beowulf - I read up to the Dragon
Gilgamesh
Of Mice and Men - Where did Steinbeck go?
Great Gatsby - I guess they took of that?
Catcher in the Rye - I guess they are not in to Caufield.
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Of course, I read all the Salvatore books, the Robert Jordan books, Melanie Rawn, Terry Goodkind, I got hooked on Eddings. I read all the Dragonlance things I could get my hands on, especially all the books by Hickman and Weiss. I got stuck on Terry Brooks, and all that stuff....

This was in the early 90s and onwards. So I fattened up my brain on cheeseburger fiction.

I probably suck at literature now.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:20 PM

31. What I've got...

Your results
You're pretty well read

You like to throw around words like 'Bildungsroman,' 'synecdoche,' and 'anagnorisis.' Please stop.


...I was like "Kafka? Really?!"

Of course my bet is most 10th graders these days have little more than incidental knowledge of this stuff. They don't put John Steinbeck on standardized tests, after all.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

43. My results were fairly well read

and I could hold my own in a literary discussion, but deep down I want to talk about sports.
Which is total malarkey.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:36 PM

48. My shelves are piled with tomes...

Genetics, linguistics, Middle Eastern history, African-American history, economics, Native American history, George Martin, and just so... much... stuff - Joseph Campbell, Rumi, Feynman...

Very few of the "classics" listed on this survey actually appear in my home; I own Grapes of Wrath, a dense Poe collection (inc. The Raven, of course), and Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. The rest I actually read in school... Not as cirriculum, but as "hey, this is in the library, I might as well check it out!"

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:24 PM

35. checked all the questions but did not get a score of any sort. oh well nt

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:25 PM

36. Uh, yeah, but there's an issue here:

Your results

You're are the most literate person in the world

Congratulations! You are now ready for the 11th grade.

"You're are" is redundant. Whoever set this up isn't the most literate person in the world, I can guarantee.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #36)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:30 PM

41. Wow! For real? That's crazy! n/t

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:34 PM

47. Pretty funny, huh?

There were only a few in their list I hadn't read, which is why I got that score. However, several on the list were individual poems. What's that about? Just one Shakespeare sonnet? Really?

Also, for most older adults, many of the books weren't even published during their school years, including college, so only avid readers would have read some on the list.

But that stupid error on the scoring page really set me off.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:26 PM

37. No. I am not as bored as a 10th grader. nt

 

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:29 PM

40. There were quite a few books

that I don't think were around when I was in 10th grade. And if they were, they weren't being taught in the English classes I was in.

And where was Flowers for Algernon?


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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

44. It's not a bad list, but it's heavy on late 20th century black history

books. I've read many of those, but not all the ones on their list.

It also leaves out a lot of what I consider to be the real "common core."

Like all book lists, it's limited in its scope and tilted in one direction too far. I've been reading an average of a book a day for over 60 years, so I'm not surprised that I've read most of these, there are many missing that should be there.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:44 PM

55. Gave up on the quiz after 20 questions

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #55)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:48 PM

57. That reminds me of this joke:

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A: Hey, Let's go ride bikes!

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:46 PM

56. You can see a complete list of Common Core "Text Exemplars"

at the link below:

http://www.corestandards.org/assets/Appendix_B.pdf

It's important to note that these are examples, only. Students are not expected to read everything on the list, nor are the lists provided as the only materials that can be used. They are only examples of the quality of reading material that should be used at different grade levels. If you go to the link, be sure to read the introductory material so you understand what these lists are for.

Students are NOT expected to have read everything on these lists. So this quiz is essentially bullshit, since it compares people's reading to a list that no student is expected to have read in its entirety.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #56)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:50 PM

60. The quiz isn't BS, it is showing how diverse modern English class has become.

No more just reading, "The Red Badge of Courage" and "A Scarlet Letter."

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Response to FSogol (Reply #60)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:54 PM

63. The implication by the CS Monitor is that students

will have read the entire list, and that the quiz compares your reading to that of the students. It's based on a faulty premise. I scored very, very well, because I'm a voracious reader.

But, at no point in the curriculum are students expected to have read everything on that list or even close to that. they are "Text Exemplars," not a suggested reading list.

The list is diverse, as it should be, but it is not presented as an obligatory reading list. It's just examples.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #56)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:53 PM

62. Yep. It is bullshit, alright.

It leaves out the authors that have established genres and puts in a bunch of fairly obscure ones.

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #62)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:56 PM

67. It is only a list of examples of the quality of material

students of a certain grade level should be reading. Obscurity is relative. We read one set of things. Today's students read another set. None read the entire list provided as examples of suitable material for an age level.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #56)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:05 PM

82. My brother tried to read

Little House in the Big Woods to my niece and was horrified at the racism!

I've read more of the 11 - 12 grade than the 9 - 10th grade.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:56 PM

65. Yeah- Didn't do too well on that

But reading lists change over the years.

Some of the stuff I read in high school that wasn't on that list:
1984
Animal Farm
Hamlet
Romeo and Juliet
King Lear
The Red Badge of Courage
Catcher in the Rye *
The Great Gatsby
The Song of Roland*
Antigone
The Hobbit *
Beowulf
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

* Not on required reading list, but could be read for credit

We were also supposed to have read The Old Man and the Sea and Wuthering Heights, but I just couldn't stay interested at that age.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:02 PM

69. Meh, it says I'm sort of well read. I'd say I'm alternatively read.

The books I read were different than these, including four encyclopedias, two in English two in Spanish.

And books like:

The History of Alchemy and Early Chemistry,
The Ascent of Man,
Brighter than 1,000 Suns,
The Good Earth,
Les Miserables,
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
The Three Musketeers,

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:03 PM

72. I read more biographies and histories than novels, but here is my result:

Your results
You might be well read, but not according to these standards It's certainly possible to be a well-read person without having cracked a single one of these books. But let's just say you'd be even more well-read if you gave a couple of these Common Core books a chance.

You're sort of well read
You could probably hold your own in a literary conversation. But deep down, you'd rather be talking about sports or movies.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:05 PM

73. My results

 



You're pretty well read

You like to throw around words like 'Bildungsroman,' 'synecdoche,' and 'anagnorisis.' Please stop.

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Response to aristocles (Reply #73)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:55 AM

91. Got that too

but probably only because I actually read those ancient Greeks & Romans, and have actually read the entire "Story of Art" by Gombrich, backwards & forwards, and I also like poetry.

Otherwise it would have been worse.....

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:12 PM

75. I take umbrage with this idea that I would rather talk about sports

than hold my own in a literary discussion.

A lot of those books were adopted by school systems decades after I went to high school.

Especially the Poem collections.

Phillip Roth is not anywhere on that list nor is Richard Ford or Michael Chabon all important Authors with important takes on modern life. And where is Joseph Heller?

We read the Odyssey, MacBeth and Hamlet, the Bible, Walden and the plays of Ibsen in my tenth grade english class.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:28 PM

77. 100% of what?

100% of *current* needs or projected at 2050?

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:30 PM

78. And what about

my guilty pleasure, Studs Terkel?

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:43 PM

80. Core Standards...

That is eduspeak for the fact that they want you smart enough to run the equipment to do your job, but not smart enough to realize how badly they are f#*k!$% you over. I miss George.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:47 PM

84. Where's Fifty Shades of Grey?

LOL

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Response to llmart (Reply #84)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:51 AM

89. well thumbed, but in the trash

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:43 AM

87. My results...

"You might be well read, but not according to these standards"

In high school we read a lot of Poe, Shakespeare, Dickens and a few others. One teacher was a huge Tolstoy fan and we spent 3 weeks on War and Peace. Many of the books on this quiz I was not familiar with at all. I feel kind of dumb after going through this.

I did see a few that looked interesting. I added them to my "to read" list.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:54 AM

90. I'm pretty well read.

My results:

"You're pretty well read

You like to throw around words like 'Bildungsroman,' 'synecdoche,' and 'anagnorisis.' Please stop."

Not that I think that particular list is necessarily a valid measure of being well read.

Or that one must read "the complete works" to have read and appreciated (or not) Emily Dickinson, for example.

Personally, I think that most of the nation should be better read than they are, and I don't think there is a single list of titles that makes someone "well read."

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:58 AM

92. internet slideslhow: worst information format in the history of ever

Great way to pummel the user with ads, but as a means of actually conveying info, not so terrific.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:04 AM

93. No Walt Whitman, no Philip Roth, No Silivia Plath, No John Updike, No Leo Tolstoy?

If you have never read War and Peace you can not consider yourself well read.


Not my genre. I am old. I have read the classics but the above authors were considered to be trendy and controversial in my day. I would love to read the book about wounded knee and Custer. I grew up in the west in Ute Country. This just reaffirms I am getting old. Damn!



But on edit: I probably would rather talk about sports. I think that Ravens game was rigged.

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