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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:47 PM

Do you think violent music desensitizes people to violence?

Personally I don't but I think a minority here would like to ban anything that is not "wholesome"

I pumped this shit with my homies back in the day well over a thousand times. We never had the urge to put a cap in somebody's ass though. Well, except this big asshole that worked at the local pool hall but that's a different story



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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:58 PM

1. Whether it does or doesn't perhaps isn't the question

(And as an aside: the question of violence against women in music remains a significant issue.)

The question is: given the choices one could make in producing and/or listening to music, why would we choose a kind of music that focuses on either hatred, violence, or sexism? Is that what we want? (Same goes for video games.) It's an aesthetic choice. It's also probably a values choice.

I understand that a lot of violence in rap/hiphop music is simply reflecting the violence that exists in the communities from which the artists have come. So some of it might be considered a social statement. But it's sometimes hard to draw the line between a social statement and advocacy. It can be especially difficult for younger, impressionable kids.

I guess the question is: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Love, Peace, and Understanding?

Or, more recently, how about just a Rock N Roll Love Affair?

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Response to frazzled (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:07 PM

5. I listened to all kinds of music, my first foray into rap was when

I was riding along in a friends car after school and Wayne popped in a cassette and said-

Check this shit out-

I was sold right then


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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:02 PM

2. Adolescent boys listen to this shit and they are just weird anyway....really.

Some of them do crazy things. Hormones are a bitch. But this music could just as easily be an outlet for some of them so how can you blame it for actions they might take. You could just as easily blame a movie, a newscast or even a story someone tells them.

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:05 PM

3. I think it is possible that violent music in combination

with peer groups and peer pressure and a certain culture and lifestyle could lead some young males into making stupid choices about violence.

By itself? Very unlikely, unless we are talking about someone seriously disturbed already, and then, it is just a self affirmation of their whacked-out way of thinking.

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:05 PM

4. If you're not mentally ill, your annecdotal 'evidence' means nothing.

Everything should be on the table when discussing the causes of violence. Guns first but other factors can have an influence on already mentally disturbed individuals and they should be addressed in turn.

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:07 PM

6. maybe...

But i doubt it.

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:09 PM

7. F the purity police...

They are always on the wrong side of the issues. We don't live in a wholesome pure world and wrapping everyone in cotton and singing lullabies to them isn't going to change that. Should we chose less violent entertainment, perhaps. But, what if instead of creating less violence it creates more when people don't let off steam?

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:13 PM

8. I doubt it.

People always want to blame music, movies and tv right off the bat. It's easier than having to take a good hard look at themselves and society as a whole.

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:14 PM

9. I distinctly remember when my daughter was about four years old

and we were in the quickie store right down from our house. My daughter had lovely blonde ringlets and huge blue eyes (still does, as a matter of fact) and looked like a little angel. She was always singing or chattering away and, honestly, I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention to her until I noticed an older woman staring at her oddly. I tuned into what she was singing and realized that she was singing the UNCLEAN version of Papa Roach's Last Resort.

In case you are unfamiliar with it, it goes something like this:

Cut my life into pieces
This is my last resort
Suffocation
No breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm bleeding

This is my last resort

Cut my life into pieces
I've reached my last resort
Suffocation
No breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm bleeding
Do you even care if I die bleeding
Would it be wrong
Would it be right
If I took my life tonight
Chances are that I might
Mutilation out of sight
And I'm contemplating suicide

'Cause I'm losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine

I never realized I was spread too thin
Till it was too late
And I was empty within
Hungry
Feeding on chaos
And living in sin
Downward spiral where do I begin
It all started when I lost my mother
No love for myself
And no love for another
Searching to find a love up on a higher level
Finding nothing but questions and devils

'Cause I'm losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me in fine
Losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Nothing's alright
Nothing is fine
I'm running and I'm crying
I'm crying
I'm crying
I'm crying
I'm crying

I can't go on li-ving this way

Cut my life into pieces
This is my last resort
Suffocation
No breathing
Don't give a fuck if I cut my arm bleeding
Would it be wrong
Would it be right
If I took my life tonight
Chances are that I might
Mutilation out of sight
And I'm contemplating suicide

'Cause I'm losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Losing my sight
Losing my mind
Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine
Nothing's alright
Nothing is fine
I'm running and I'm crying

I can't go on living this way
Can't go on
Living this way
Nothing's alright

The husband and I were a bit of head bangers back in the day. And DAMN, I still think that is a great song! She is now 17, smart as a whip, a great kid and not at all violent.

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Response to renie408 (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:14 PM

14. My daughter just turned 3 so we are very conscious of bad words :)

But to be honest, it's more of her going to kindergarten in a couple years and the chance she repeats something she heard in Kroger than what it will "do to her psyche"

She already said once "Fishy is dead, Fishy is dead" (it wasn't) but I think she picked that up from SpongeBob

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:15 PM

10. No.

neither do violent video games or violent movies.

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Response to snooper2 (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:16 PM

11. Prob not...if a person acts violent around music...odds are they have a violent tendency already...

I am thinking about the Punks in the pit. Most left it behind when the show was over
...It could get dangerous in there, but seems like the ones who carried it out of the clubs were
the ones who were violent before they hit the floor.


Tikki

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Response to Tikki (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:20 PM

12. Thanks for posting that!

Just saw them a few months ago.
it's basically Lee Ving with younger guys, but they played the entire first record and most of the second and that was it.
Great show!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:37 PM

13. FEAR is a grand show...now if I had the money to get to the UK and knew..

someone near Blackpool...This is where I'd be this Summer...


http://www.rebellionfestivals.com

We've seen some of the bands over the years...but all in one place, that is IT.


Tikki

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