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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:13 PM

Are we STILL talking about Gun Control in here?!!!!!


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Reply Are we STILL talking about Gun Control in here?!!!!! (Original post)
SaveAmerica Jan 2013 OP
marions ghost Jan 2013 #1
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #2
Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #3
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #5
Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #8
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #9
Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #6
Kalidurga Jan 2013 #7
LAGC Jan 2013 #4
bongbong Jan 2013 #10
LAGC Jan 2013 #11
bongbong Jan 2013 #12
SaveAmerica Jan 2013 #13

Response to SaveAmerica (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:15 PM

1. STILL

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Response to SaveAmerica (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:20 PM

2. Yep

The gun rights people have convinced me that a ban is the only solution. Personally I would have gone with much stricter gun control and banning high capacity clips.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:25 PM

3. Good you're being up front about it.

Frankly, I think that's what a pretty darn big percentage of gun control advocates really want...they've just considered that goal to be unattainable all at once and have opted for an incremental approach. That's all well and good...save for the pretense that a complete ban isn't really the long-term goal.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:28 PM

5. Well honestly it wasn't my idea.

It is all the gun proponents saying why this regulation or that regulation won't work. For example banning assault rifles they explain in detail why that won't work. So, I am left with the only solution is as close to a total ban on all guns as possible.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:40 PM

8. There are a good many steps that can help, in my view.

Universal background checks for one. Mandated security provisions (gun safes, etc...), for another. Completely revamping our approach to the stupid War on Drugs (given that a majority of US homicides every year are drug-related...). Etc.

I have mixed feelings about a near-total ban on firearms (I'm a 110lb female...a world in which pure brute strength rules is unappealing to me), but even if I were an unequivocal supporter of the idea I don't think simply legislating it would make it so. Passing a law which literally tens of millions of people would disobey strikes me as a very bad idea.

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Response to Lizzie Poppet (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:45 PM

9. I think you are right...

However I have seen everyone one of those ideas (pardon this reference) shot down. Except for the war on drugs, most people agree it is a wrong headed approach to combating crime and addictions. And that it creates a lot more violence than it solves. There are a lot of common sense ideas that get shot down. So, this is exactly why I am more or less mostly less, for a near ban on all firearms.

I agree a law that would instantly make millions of people criminals by the stroke of a pen is a bad idea. But, I also think it would save a lot of lives eventually.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:31 PM

6. Me too. I'll even give up my 3rd Amendment rights for when they begin the confiscation... nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:38 PM

7. LOL good one

I'll give that one up right now no gun confiscation necessary.

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Response to SaveAmerica (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:26 PM

4. GD is the new Gungeon.

For now and forever.

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Response to LAGC (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:29 PM

10. GD is less of an echo chamber ....

 

... for the dozens of endlessly-parroted (and long-debunked) NRA Talking Points that never die, and are part of every thread, in the cesspool-like gungeon.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:47 PM

11. I agree.

We should just let it all hang out in GD from now on, and get rid of the Gungeon.

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Response to LAGC (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:59 PM

12. Good idea

 

With one caveat: no NRA Talking Points, false stats, misleading graphs, etc. IOW, nothing from the repig playbook. (also no gun porn, as it is disconcerting to see WMD celebrated)

Of course, those guidelines would eliminate about 95% of gungeon-type posts, so things would be a lot cleaner (no more need to debunk lies that have been debunked 1000x already, for example).

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Response to LAGC (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:26 PM

13. Well, for now and until we get things turned around!

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