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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:38 AM

'AK-47 Bandit' robs banks all over Western US

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020149151_apcaak47bandit.html

The FBI says tips leading to the arrest of the `AK-47 Bandit,' who has robbed banks all over the western U.S., could result in a $100,000 reward.

FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller says the same man appears to have shot a Chino police officer at one bank robbery in February, before robbing banks in Northern California, Idaho and Washington.

The suspect carries an assault rifle similar to an AK-47 into the banks.

After robbing the California Bank & Trust in Chino, the suspect is believed to have robbed a Vacaville Bank of the West on March 12. He may have also tried to rob a bank in Sacramento a few days earlier.

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But we have been told that assault rifles are not a problem...

What a crock.

yup

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Reply 'AK-47 Bandit' robs banks all over Western US (Original post)
jpak Jan 2013 OP
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #1
Taverner Jan 2013 #2
regjoe Jan 2013 #4
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #9
TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #10
jpak Jan 2013 #14
KansDem Jan 2013 #3
jpak Jan 2013 #5
KansDem Jan 2013 #6
jpak Jan 2013 #8
jmg257 Jan 2013 #12
jpak Jan 2013 #13
jmg257 Jan 2013 #16
KansDem Jan 2013 #17
jpak Jan 2013 #20
sanatanadharma Jan 2013 #27
madinmaryland Jan 2013 #7
Undaunted Jan 2013 #11
Recursion Jan 2013 #18
Undaunted Jan 2013 #19
Recursion Jan 2013 #15
The Magistrate Jan 2013 #21
Recursion Jan 2013 #22
The Magistrate Jan 2013 #24
LAGC Jan 2013 #23
The Magistrate Jan 2013 #25
Remmah2 Jan 2013 #26

Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:42 AM

1. He's behind the times. I believe the aspersion de jour is now Glock.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:43 AM

2. Yeah, and you absolutely MUST hold it sideways

 

Otherwise all the other bank robbers laugh at you

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Response to Taverner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:46 AM

4. Now THAT is funny!

 

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Response to Taverner (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:21 PM

9. Peculiar posture, that. Then again w/britches down to the knees, style takes a holiday!

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:29 PM

10. "Pack a Glock if you're short of *ock"

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:55 PM

14. a smell sig line!

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:45 AM

3. "But we have been told that assault rifles are not a problem... "

It's true! He could have robbed them with a hammer!

Gimme the cash in the till or I'll unload my Black and Decker!

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Response to KansDem (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:47 AM

5. and when police arrived, he turned the hammer on himself...

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Response to jpak (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:51 AM

6. That's because he saw the police had hammers...


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Response to KansDem (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:57 AM

8. and they were wearing these...



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Response to jpak (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:33 PM

12. Don't care who you are - that shit is funny! :) nt

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:54 PM

13. Can't touch this...

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Response to jpak (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:56 PM

16. LOL! BIG smile! nt

Cheers!

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Response to jpak (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:57 PM

17. The question remains; do they use...

Single-action hammers:


Or automatics!

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Response to KansDem (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:03 PM

20. with brazillian round magazines!!!111



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Response to jpak (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:36 PM

27. I want that...

...anti-bullet force field-magic gold dhoti street wear cloth.
Then no one will call me "sir".

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Response to KansDem (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:56 AM

7. That brings new meaning to the phrase, "getting hammered"



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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:30 PM

11. Robbing banks is romantic, but it just isn't a profitable proposition anymore.

 

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Response to Undaunted (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:57 PM

18. Unless you're the CEO

Then it's pretty damn profitable

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Response to Recursion (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:01 PM

19. Good one.

 

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:56 PM

15. Right, because a bank robber is going to think "oh, damn, this gun is *illegal* for me to own!" (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:18 PM

21. Rather Beside the Point Though, Sir, Is It Not, When You Come To Think On the Thing?

If the item is illegal to possess, certain things follow.

Holding it is a separate crime, with an additional sentence on conviction. It is quite common for criminals to behave in a manner that, while still criminal, does mitigate their exposure to consequences if caught.

The thing would have to be acquired on an illegal black market. This would drive the money cost of possessing it up considerably, as the supplier would be subject to criminal penalties if caught, and would price according to risk undertaken.

Markets like this are a very risky swamp; the buyer has no assurance that, when tendering money for a lethal weapon, he will not be robbed ( after all, the one thing known is that the buyer has money, and wants a weapon he does not have ), nor is it unheard of for sellers in such a market to arrange for the arrest of casual buyers, so they can pass as informants to police and so maintain immunity in selling to steady clients. A person might find himself, or consider himself, priced out of the market for the item, either in terms of money or of willingness to voluntarily undertake risk not essential to his project, from the very start.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:22 PM

22. I'm not convinced of the black market argument

The thing would have to be acquired on an illegal black market. This would drive the money cost of possessing it up considerably

Or, as we saw with alcohol in the 1920s, price would stay roughly the same (or even drop) while quality would plummet.

Markets like this are a very risky swamp; the buyer has no assurance that, when tendering money for a lethal weapon, he will not be robbed

I consider it a safe bet that by the time someone is robbing banks, he has already navigated several illegal transactions, generally including for the gun he uses.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:35 PM

24. Try Entering one Sometime, Sir

The prohibition line does not work well, in this instance, unless you are talking pure con work. Selling cheap home-made hootch as imported scotch is a relatively easy thing to maintain as you still are selling the active ingredient in adequate proportion. Making the quality of a mechanism drop, and doing so in a way that brings increased profit to the seller, would be trickier. Of course, the market could operate to shift people to a lesser grade of fire-arm, but that would carry my point, rather than yours; people would be buying something other than 'assault weapon' knock-offs, but paying a price closer to the former's formerly legal price than they would have before.

Bank robbery actually is often a fairly amateur endeavor, especially bank robbery of the 'guy walks in, says this is a robbery' sort. It is not a safe assumption a person who does this has learned the ins and outs of dealing in a cut-throat market where the one thing you cannot do if a deal goes bad is call the cops.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:34 PM

23. I'm Not So Sure About That, Sir.

Holding it is a separate crime, with an additional sentence on conviction. It is quite common for criminals to behave in a manner that, while still criminal, does mitigate their exposure to consequences if caught.


Using a firearm in the commission of a felony is already a serious enhancement in most states. I'm not sure what would be accomplished by an additional charge of mere possession of a particularly banned gun. Can't imagine it having much of a deterrent effect when someone is so willing to fragrantly break laws against armed robbery.

Unless you think we should ban guns altogether, and hand out Life sentences to anyone who possesses.

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Response to LAGC (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:41 PM

25. And a Great Many Felonies, Sir, Are Committed Without Employing Fire-Arms

There are some, of course, in which a gun offers such advantage it is worth the extra risk. But even there, there are gradations. An armed robbery which is accomplished simply by display of a firearm in a waistband, or pulled it of a pocket just enough to be seen ( which is fairly common in police blotters ), will be treated differently then one in which the gun is pointed straight in someone's face and explicit threats are made.

It is also true that the various enhancements are often foregone in plea bargaining, or for other process reasons, and this lessens their deterrent value.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:44 PM

26. You call that guy a bank robber?

 

He ain't Wall Street enough.

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