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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:13 AM

 

Republicans now worried they will lose the house in 2014

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/01/17/gop_worries_they_could_lose_house.html

GOP Worries They Could Lose House
"There's growing angst among Republicans that the party's House majority could be at risk in 2014 if the deep GOP divisions that emerged during the recent 'fiscal cliff' negotiations persist in looming negotiations over a slew of budgetary issues," The Hill reports.

"Even as Republican officials maintain the GOP majority is safe, several lawmakers and longtime activists warn of far-reaching political ramifications if voters perceive Republicans as botching consequential talks on the debt ceiling, sequestration and a possible government shutdown."


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http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/277655-republicans-worry-house-majority-in-danger-if-gop-botches-fiscal-talks

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graham4anything Jan 2013 OP
oldhippydude Jan 2013 #1
nc4bo Jan 2013 #3
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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:16 AM

1. let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be..

crystal words of wisdom let it be..

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:18 AM

3. I see I wasn't the only one hearing that song.

Yes sir ee!

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:33 PM

85. WE can work it out! we MUST do this. Citizens are turning against NRA, GOP, right wing, fake polls

we CANNOT have the usual comeback by the GOP in the off-year election again. The GOP must be punished.
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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:20 AM

4. K&R !!! n/t

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Response to oldhippydude (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:28 AM

9. crazy words of wisdumb

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:50 PM

41. As Macca once said ...

There are two kinds of people, people who need to hear "Let It Be" and people who make others need to hear "Let It Be"

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:17 AM

2. Let it be so.

Keep digging that hole you selfish, nutjob piggies - here's some more shovels!

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:19 PM

63. I was thinking more like this, from now until then:




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Response to freshwest (Reply #63)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:38 PM

69. Sorry couldn't resist...

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Response to bl968 (Reply #69)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:53 PM

71. Oh, wow! And that's where the 'I see four lights' came from. Never saw that one! Thnx!

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Response to freshwest (Reply #71)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:55 PM

76. And that's where the 'I see four lights' came from.

It's actually a variation from the torture techniques and goals in Orwell's "1984".

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:21 AM

5. Wait for it! I will!

You know they'll botch a fucking wet dream!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:22 AM

6. Please proceed, nut-jobs.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:52 AM

13. let them hang themselves

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:24 AM

7. The GOP has managed to collect all of the misfits, the wealthy nuts, the religious wackos, the

extreme social conservatives, general wackos, the baggers, all of them under one tent. I hope their F'en tent caves in on all of them.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:52 AM

14. exactly

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:51 PM

59. they could be so good together

Oh yes and I'm lovin' every minute of it!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:27 AM

8. Let it be written, let it be done.

 

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:30 AM

10. How anyone votes for those GOPer's in the first place is beyond me.

I guess they will stay there till we have redistricting...like after the 2020 census. Bummer!

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:01 AM

19. you dont have to wait until census to redistrict- precedent was sent by tom delay when he

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:38 AM

11. ...to God's ears. nt

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:46 AM

12. I Wonder if That's Why Obama Is Likely Going to Let Them Shut Down Gov.

Shutting down the Government didn't work very well for Newt and the party when they did it back in the mid-90's. He certainly seems to be working hard to make sure the GOP will be the responsible party. Not he and the Dems.

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Response to dballance (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:57 AM

15. I don't think so. This is simply Obama's way of forcing them to knuckle under.

It's foul medicine for foul politicians but they had it coming!

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Response to dballance (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:00 PM

48. Obama can't do anything.

ALL SPENDING originated in the House to begin with. So it is their fault. They spent the money, they have to pay the bills. Obama doesn't spend a cent without the House's approval, so Obama has nothing to do with this. The sooner those idiot Tp's figure this out the better off they'll be.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:59 AM

16. Holy shit I am hoping!!!!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:00 AM

17. The risk goes beyond political agenda: It's about projecting "We got this."

No matter what the party actually wants, if it looks like an undisciplined, incoherent mess of petty squabbles, then it will lose votes even among its own constituency.

Two examples from Germany:
The "Left-party": A few years ago, their moderate wing fought their radical wing. In the next elections they had a net-loss of several percentage-points.
The "Pirates": A new ultra-liberal party in Germany. Quick successes, they entered four state-legislatures, gaining 7-8% of the vote each time. Then the infighting broke out. Right now they are down to 3%.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:03 AM

20. Those sitting on the fence don't want to be associated with losers.

And the Republicans are behaving every bit like losers these days, regardless of how many narrow wins they eke out here and there.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:41 AM

78. And in the UK...

the Labour Party infighting of the 1980s was a contributory factor to Thatcher's evil reign lasting so long.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:00 AM

18. It would go against history, but hope it happens.

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:55 PM

75. It would definitely go against history,

since only 2 out of the last 25 mid-term elections have favored the party in the White House. But it definitely would be nice to see the Rs lose control of the House.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:08 AM

21. I doubt it, with the gerrymandering of districts

but we can always hope!

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Response to gollygee (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:51 AM

27. sadly you are right

In 2012 Obama and Sen. Brown won Statewide by comfortable margins and
we have a good deal more Ds then Rs here but 12 of the 16 congressional
districts went to the GOP. Now with changing population demographics and
with the republicans continually drifting more and more into loony tunes
territory by attacking women, teachers, and senior citizens' benefits over time
they are an endangered species.



Ohio's redistricting has made it so it takes 3 democratic votes for every 1 republican
vote to elect a member to Congress ...... Central Ohio is carved up so we get 1 D and
3 Rs to represent an are w/ lots of Dems.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:10 AM

22. From your computer to God's ear!

How much more looney do they have to get?

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:12 AM

23. They should be. nt

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:29 AM

24. Lose everything

As long as the general GOP base continue to be led down the garden path by Teabaggers,birthers, gun nuts, hateful alternate reality rightwing bs news media and look for guidance from the likes of ignorant cowards like Limbaugh and Beck expect the GOP to be replaced by another more moderate party sometime in the near future.
Reminds me of the saying, take care of your customers or some one else will.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:42 AM

25. Sweat it, assholes.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:42 AM

26. I believe they will

and it will be a very good thing for this nation.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:55 AM

28. Oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please...

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:59 AM

29. That's what they get for being Assh0les

stupid fucks.

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Response to formercia (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:08 PM

33. I would like to think GOP assholedom has run its course

 

but probably not... let's just hope they pay for it.

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:59 PM

52. A couple of Decades in the Hinterlands

at least

and a Left of Democratic Party to replace them and give the Dem Party Pause.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:01 PM

30. They should worry

about normal Americans demanding they all move to slave states with free access to any and all firearms. Then let natural selection do its magic.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:06 PM

31. I'm counting on it

With every stupid mistake they make, I see the hole getting deeper.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:06 PM

32. Time to ramp up construction of those FEMA re-education camps.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:10 PM

34. from this post to God's ear

 

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:26 PM

35. Couldn't Happen To Finer Group Of Folks

eom

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:32 PM

36. From their lips

to God's ears.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:38 PM

37. I don't care if they're worried or not. Work to make it happen!

All of us.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:40 PM

38. Possibilty

I don't think Obama would have gone so far out on a limb on gun control unless he knew it can only help in 14.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:45 PM

39. Good talking point to remind any republi-CON rep you might want to call TOLL FREE...

Here are the updated numbers:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022203784

DESTABILIZE THE ENEMY. Make THEM the ones grabbing for the Maalox bottle (that they now may need as a permanent fixture on their bedside table) first thing in the morning!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:49 PM

40. They should have gotten clobbered despite gerrymandering

remember when the Dems took a house seat in NY that had been Repug since around Lincoln? That was because the repugs were threatening Social Security, Medicare etc.

And whta did the Dems do? THEY brought those caca issues to the table.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:53 PM

42. So mote it be.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:04 PM

43. They've even managed to piss off the Koch brothers with this debt limit crap.

No Koch brothers $$$, no teabaggers.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:09 PM

44. Never gave politics much thought till Obama came along

At about the same time i started getting into forums, two things became immediately obvious
1. i'm definitely a Liberal
2. Republicans are batshit crazy.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:12 PM

45. Make it so

Impose strict criteria on how districts are drawn or transfer authority over redistricting from partisan legislatures to independent commissions.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of fighting these fascist assholes for every little thing.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:35 PM

46. That would be a beautiful thing.

Will work to make it happen.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:43 PM

47. God I hope they lose in 2014

 

I was shocked that they won in 2010, especially after the bs this country endured during Bush. We need to fight to ensure that the GOP WILL be defeated in not only 2014, but 2016 as well.

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Response to williamc1967txlib (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:03 PM

49. They "won" because they have gerrymandered the hell out of the districts.

Democratic votes for House candidates actually exceeded Republican votes for House candidates by a large margin -- but the Repubs. still won because of the way they drew the districts in the last census.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/11/07/1159631/americans-voted-for-a-democratic-house-gerrymandering-the-supreme-court-gave-them-speaker-boehner/?mobile=nc

Also, welcome to DU!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:55 PM

50. //Crosses fingers | Oh, please, please, please, please...! n/t

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:56 PM

51. Good! They can do their obstructing in the parking lot...(nt)

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:59 PM

53. If they DON'T lose the house I'll be disappointed.

I'd like to think that people are sick of this version of the GOP.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:59 PM

54. Apparently they haven't heard

The Dick Morris prediction of a GOP win in 2014.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #54)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:36 PM

74. I think they realize if Dick Morris predicts something

the opposite will happen.

Romney landslide, anyone?

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:01 PM

55. They keep having tea & koolaide parties and they will be gone.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:02 PM

56. A more deserving bunch

would be hard to find.

Someone: Throw them an Anvil, please!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:14 PM

57. God I sure hope they do lose it.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:33 PM

58. They're slinging BS. They gerrymandered themselves into a majority party in the house in 2011.

Their districts are still safe so long as the teahadists, corporate stooges and media whores are holding onto community purse strings and they can manage to keep stimulus jobs tamped down - their own position as congress-critters may not be so safe, but there will still be a pubbie in most of those districts.
Shutting down the government just increases fear and anxiety, which is what the right feeds off.

If a good stimulus package manages to make it through congress and get implemented by the end of 2013, the GOP might be in trouble, even if "the debt" seems to be high, because when people start to see that things are getting better for them, personally, they are much less influenced by fear and craziness and red areas that have a bit of a maroon tinge may turn more purple as the months go on.

Attacks from the Right are not going to hurt the GOP in the short turn. It's advances on the Left, a better standard of living for the citizenry in general, especially for those who are on the margins or falling between the cracks, that hurts them.

Haele

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:58 PM

60. Gerrymandering should keep them safe

until the next census.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:01 PM

61. I hope the GOP gets insomnia and ulcers over this

I hope the Democratic Party adopts the 50 State Strategy again and kicks their fool butts out of every gerrymandered district.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:14 PM

62. As they damn well should be!

Just keep pandering to your corporate masters you freaking nuts because you still haven't seemed to learn the lesson. YOU CANT BUY ELECTIONS ANY LONGER!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:52 PM

64. it is trending that way

that would be awesome

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:37 PM

65. C'mon, GOP. You know how to fix this--

Move further right.



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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:52 PM

66. Please baby please make it so

I hope the GOP go so far to the right that great numbers of people are so repulsed by them they vote democratic or if they can't vote that way they stay home in protest.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:24 PM

67. This subject title gave me an erection. Weird.

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Response to zinnisking (Reply #67)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:32 PM

68. TMI, my friend, TMI

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:51 PM

70. They Are Safe Until We can Take Over the State Governments…

…but those are just as gerrymandered as the House districts.

It will take millions of Democrats moving into red districts to change them.
Not just for a few months, but permanently, giving up jobs, homes, friends,
good schools and what all else, just for a slim chance of turning this around.

That's more than we can do, and it's more than most of us can do.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #70)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:33 PM

73. Maybe...but,

there were many closely contested seats that were in reach in the last election. About 30. Maybe the DNC, OFA and others (us) can concentrate on those seats ? Starting now.
Also, State Democratic party's in heavily gerrymandered states should be filing suits to overturn the obvious bias of the lastest drawing of districts.
We need a coordinated counterattack to the GOP's assualt on Democracy. A strategy that goes right to the heart of their insurgency, and that includes legal action where possible and lots of shoe leather all the time.
Howard Dean gave the blueprint, both in his campaign and his DNC leadership. 50 states, no voter not contacted.

there's a few wins in there, somewhere....

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #73)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:39 PM

83. win Texas, turn it blue, then do the same in Texas.

 

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:23 PM

72. President should be elected by popular vote and districts should be drawn by independent commissions

Why the hell can't we have nationwide redistricting done by independent commissions, similar to California, so that all congressional races are fair and so that everyone has a chance to win? The other thing that must be done, is for the electoral college to go bye bye. The president must be elected by popular vote. We really must do both of these things. If we continue to allow partisans to draw districts, and if we keep the electoral college, we will soon have a situation in which one presidential candidate could have more of the popular vote in 1 state than the other presidential candidate(s) and then lose that state due to that state's law in how they grant their electoral votes.

What can we do to stop this?

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Response to xxxsdesdexxx (Reply #72)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:21 AM

80. I do not want to fall into the trap of giving up the electoral vote too quickly...

 

Al Gore lost 2000 because of Ralph Nader.
The secondary SCOTUS decision came much later.

and the threat of each state dividing the electoral votes does not worry me, in that, it will come back and hurt the rpeublicans far greater in future elections than it will democrats.

example-say Chris Christie is running in 2016 as Pres/or VP candidate
and he wins PA. This would help the democrats (not what the repubs would want), in that PA then will not be 100% winner.

more important is winning the house/governors for 2020 and doing the same next time for gerrymandering them back and changing the laws about gerrymandering from then on

but don't rush to alter the electoral college as it could backfire.

and popular vote can be fudged too, so why alter something now, that we slaughter them in on?
(Almost as if this so early trying to change the electoral vote is not the goal of the repubs, but using it as a scare tactic, to abolish the EC.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #80)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:46 PM

84. Maybe a law stating that electors must be allocated on a winner take all basis in each state then?

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 12:07 AM

77. I soooo hope they loose big in 2014. nt

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:51 AM

79. If Democrats cave on Social Security and Medicare, the Repukes will get even stronger

Although it's hard to say they won't do a bunch of egregiously stupid things to counteract the collusion of Dems in fucking over seniors.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:38 AM

81. Hey Republicans!

I'll help you out here and give you a clue.

You need to discuss women's issues more. Talk about rape and birth control. That'll get you votes. I Promise!

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:31 AM

82. HELLO !!!!!?????

I used to be republican and I find myself to be very objective and it will be A HUGE republican loss!!!!

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Response to Pauldg47 (Reply #82)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:03 PM

86. Good to hear it

I like stories of people who have made the change. It has to be an awakening. And not with out some reflection. We hold our core values and beliefs very dearly. I can hardly image switching teams.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:40 PM

87. A lot of people are worried about losing their house

Why should the main cause of it be exempt?











On edit: Hmmm. Wonder why that last word came up as a link.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 05:41 AM

88. If they keep acting like they are they probably will

The catch is we'd have to win it back by a good margin (say 10 over the 218 for a majority) because of the Blue dog Democrats are going to fuck us when they can. To be safe we'd need 238-240.

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