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spanone

(135,816 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:03 AM Jan 2013

Some sheriffs vow not to enforce Obama's gun plan..who the fuck do they think they are?

Denny Peyman didn't watch President Barack Obama's gun-control announcement Wednesday. But the Jackson County, Ky., sheriff said he already knows how the proposals will affect the way he does his job: not one whit.

Peyman is one of several sheriffs across the country who are vowing not to enforce new firearms restrictions that could be imposed by Congress or by executive order.

"Kentucky is a sovereign state," Peyman told NBC News. "The federal government is coming in and saying, 'This is what you're going to do.' We're not going to do it."

The White House's wish list includes an assault-weapons ban. Peyman said if it comes to pass, he won't be part of any crackdown.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547387-some-sheriffs-vow-not-to-enforce-obamas-gun-plan-anti-violence-groups-praise-measures?lite

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Some sheriffs vow not to enforce Obama's gun plan..who the fuck do they think they are? (Original Post) spanone Jan 2013 OP
White men, I suspect. PDJane Jan 2013 #1
arrogant ignorance. spanone Jan 2013 #2
Printz v. U.S. bluestateguy Jan 2013 #3
This. There is no legal requirement for him to enforce federal crimes. nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #6
yep. galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #21
no more federal dollars to support them lapfog_1 Jan 2013 #4
A sovereign state huh? geomon666 Jan 2013 #5
How about states that defy laws passed by congress, signed by a president and upheldby the USSC? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #13
Not a good analogy. Doobies don't kill first graders. johnfunk Jan 2013 #20
It's not about lethality, it's about not enforcing duly enacted law. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #23
That simple n/t malaise Jan 2013 #16
Linn County, Oregon.. Permanut Jan 2013 #7
Wouldn't it be amusing if gun-owning gun control supporters... johnfunk Jan 2013 #22
another one riverwalker Jan 2013 #8
Just like local LEO that don't enforce federal drug laws, or federal immigration laws. nt kelly1mm Jan 2013 #9
Ignorant hayseeds, that's who Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2013 #10
The US has always had a system of divided government, and sheriffs are typically county officials -- struggle4progress Jan 2013 #11
Most Sheriffs in the US are asocial, sadistic, narcissists defacto7 Jan 2013 #12
I'm gonna take, and take, and take, till they ain't got nothin left to give but BLOOD!" Erose999 Jan 2013 #15
There are 3 or 4 sheriffs here in OR chloes1 Jan 2013 #14
Glad to see some people comprehend civil rights. nt Remmah2 Jan 2013 #17
What are "Inbred Racist Assholes" Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #18
maybe the president could call in the National guard to take over his department. WI_DEM Jan 2013 #19
I'm betting they are white, just by their disrespect arthritisR_US Jan 2013 #24
cut off all federal funding warrior1 Jan 2013 #25
cut off all federal funding Flashmann Jan 2013 #27
These are just the ones who did NOT graduate juris doctor in constitutional law at Harvard Coyotl Jan 2013 #26
i'd withhold DHS funding to any department unwilling to comply.. frylock Jan 2013 #28

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
3. Printz v. U.S.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:11 AM
Jan 2013

They don't have to enforce a federal law as local officers, but they may not interfere with federal agents enforcing federal laws in their communities.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
4. no more federal dollars to support them
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:11 AM
Jan 2013

and the "wrongful death" lawsuits when it is proved that they didn't enforce the law and could have.... will both personally bankrupt them and professionally ruin them.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
13. How about states that defy laws passed by congress, signed by a president and upheldby the USSC?
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:41 AM
Jan 2013

Like Colorado and Washington when they legalized marijuana.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
23. It's not about lethality, it's about not enforcing duly enacted law.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:37 AM
Jan 2013

People cannot claim in one breath that states are obliged to enforce federal law and then in the next breath cheer when another law directly contradicts federal law and then again get angry when states like Arizona pass laws such as SB1070.

I would also add that Obama passed no law yesterday, only policies regarding federal agencies, which sheriffs are not beholden.

johnfunk

(6,113 posts)
22. Wouldn't it be amusing if gun-owning gun control supporters...
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jan 2013

... started talking about these sheriffs' "tyranny" in refusing to protect the public -- and suggested that perhaps "second amendment remedies" might be in order?

Ironic on many levels -- but I'd love to see it happen just for the sheer cognitive dissonance.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
8. another one
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:53 AM
Jan 2013
http://kstp.com/article/stories/S2899041.shtml?cat=12196

Minn. Sheriff Vows to Ignore New Gun Restrictions

A Minnesota sheriff says he would refuse to enforce any new state or federal regulation that restricts guns.

Pine County Sheriff Robin Cole sent an open letter to residents this week, saying he doesn't believe the federal government has a right to order states to follow mandates that violate the U.S. Constitution.

Cole wrote that he would view any such mandate illegal and refuse to carry it out. He says he believes it is a "moral sin" to erode freedom through administrative rules.

Cole told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he is categorically opposed to any proposal that would infringe on one's constitutional rights. He says he wrote the letter because citizens have been afraid of what the future holds.

He says the issue doesn't apply to just guns.

struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
11. The US has always had a system of divided government, and sheriffs are typically county officials --
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:35 AM
Jan 2013

so I regard folk who make statements like Peyman as babbling yahoos: since they're not federal agency employees, a presidential executive order is unlikely to apply directly to them; and since they're not federal law enforcement officials, they will often have no obvious immediate duty to enforce federal laws (though Congress, of course, does have significant authority to impose conditions on various forms of federal funding; and some cooperation between various law enforcement officials under different authorities is frequently desirable)

So what is Peyman's jabber really about? Under the current Kentucky constitution, county sheriffs are elected every four years: the natural conclusion is that Peyman is just a yammering political airhead, throwing red meat to his potential constituents

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
12. Most Sheriffs in the US are asocial, sadistic, narcissists
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:52 AM
Jan 2013

The most dangerous, self serving, lawbreakers and club boys of all government positions. I would no more trust a Sheriffs or officials in the sheriffs office than I would the mafia.

chloes1

(88 posts)
14. There are 3 or 4 sheriffs here in OR
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:47 AM
Jan 2013

that have written statements to the effect that they will not enforce Federal laws in regards to gun control. I thought then and still believe that, since sheriffs are elected, the little bastards are trying to get popular votes.

big babies with the little penii all of them!

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
27. cut off all federal funding
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jan 2013

It worked with seatbelt laws.....The Fed threatened to cut hi-way funding to states which refused to enact seatbelt laws.....They did the same thing,earlier,with regard to the National 55MPH speed limit......

That said,I suspect there would be legalities,as well as logistical concerns,in cutting all Fed funds to states not in compliance.......Unlike the seatbelt-highway funding,dynamic,I'm not sure there would be a specific area in which to target threatened funding cuts......

I'd love to think that could be a workable approach,though......

*Mis-spelled word...

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
26. These are just the ones who did NOT graduate juris doctor in constitutional law at Harvard
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jan 2013

We shall see who has the last word on these matters after their trollling is long forgotten.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
28. i'd withhold DHS funding to any department unwilling to comply..
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:20 PM
Jan 2013

sorry, but no more tanks or drones for you mister sheriff sir.

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