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pwb Jan 2013 OP
Glassunion Jan 2013 #1
Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #3
pwb Jan 2013 #4
uponit7771 Jan 2013 #7
Taitertots Jan 2013 #18
Logical Jan 2013 #2
pwb Jan 2013 #9
Logical Jan 2013 #10
pwb Jan 2013 #14
rrneck Jan 2013 #17
Logical Jan 2013 #21
Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #22
Berserker Jan 2013 #5
pwb Jan 2013 #12
NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #6
william cail Jan 2013 #8
pwb Jan 2013 #11
Carnage251 Jan 2013 #13
LanternWaste Jan 2013 #15
XRubicon Jan 2013 #16
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #19
XRubicon Jan 2013 #20

Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:41 PM

1. So only the rich and powerful can have them?

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:47 PM

3. +100 nt

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:48 PM

4. The fewer the better.

Your point is obvious to most.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:50 PM

7. The rich and powerful need them? thx

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:21 PM

18. How else are they supposed to stop the unwashed masses from taking their power and/or wealth?

All the gun tax schemes are really just about preventing poor people from having access to firearms.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:42 PM

2. LOL, yes, because we know mass shooters worry about the cost of the ammo. b-t

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Response to Logical (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:51 PM

9. So higher cost would not deter in your opinion.

How logical?

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Response to pwb (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:54 PM

10. Really? You want to argue this. Ok, so there are people who want to....

Kill a bunch of people but they are worried about running up their credit card? They plan on dying. Get it? Wow!

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Response to Logical (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:09 PM

14. Who mentioned credit cards.

No argument, you may have noticed this is just my opinion. It obviously means very little to you as yours does to me. What you think is logical does not make it so just as my logic may not be yours. Wow back at you. Credit card? Way to stretch what was said.

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Response to pwb (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:15 PM

17. Is that your own personal logic or did you borrow it? nt

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Response to pwb (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:59 PM

21. LOL, the point is that someone who plans on dying WILL NOT worry about ammo cost.

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Response to pwb (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:04 PM

22. I for one am fine with poor people not being able to afford guns or ammo

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:49 PM

5. Just wondering

 

Tax these weapons and ammo out of existence.
It could work since weapons lovers hate taxes.

Do weapons haters love taxes?

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Response to Berserker (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:00 PM

12. Thought you may assume I meant Tea Party types.

I enjoy paying my taxes. Doing my part,

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:49 PM

6. Because a mass murderer will be concerned about his credit card bill?

I'm sure their just Dying to pay that off...

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:50 PM

8. bad ideal

That's makes much sense as what the NRA is asking for. Extreme proposals doesn't make much sense.

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Response to william cail (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:54 PM

11. Ideal?

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:04 PM

13. I am disappointed that so much irrationality is coming from both sides of the issue

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Response to Carnage251 (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:12 PM

15. Six of one, half a dozen of the other,

And I am disappointed any given solution is immediately trivialized with the label 'irrational'.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other, and all that...

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:14 PM

16. I agree, look at cigarettes

Very expensive to be a smoker these days.

I think this one pisses them off, so I like it even more.

Taxing will curb demand, production will fall off, gun makers won't have loads of cash to give to politicians via the NRA.

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Response to pwb (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:30 PM

19. Classism and a poll tax all rolled into one

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #19)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:43 PM

20. It worked in 1934

History of the National Firearms Act

The NFA was originally enacted in 1934. Similar to the current NFA, the original Act imposed a tax on the making and transfer of firearms defined by the Act, as well as a special (occupational) tax on persons and entities engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing, and dealing in NFA firearms. The law also required the registration of all NFA firearms with the Secretary of the Treasury. Firearms subject to the 1934 Act included shotguns and rifles having barrels less than 18 inches in length, certain firearms described as “any other weapons,” machineguns, and firearm mufflers and silencers.

While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress’ purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms. The $200 tax has not changed since 1934.


http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/

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