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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:44 PM

So, what do we do to counter the loudmouth gun fanatics?

I think they get more than their share of media time and they are so loud and angry that they tend to drive the debate. How do we make our voices heard? I've signed every petition I've found and signed up for Gabby Giffords' Americans for Responsible Solutions, Demand a Plan, and the Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence. I still feel we're being drowned out and that makes me very anxious. In my heart, I know there are more of us than them, but you'd never know if from the media coverage.

I plan to call Congressional Offices, but that'll be like spitting into the wind since I live in Georgia. What else can I do?

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Reply So, what do we do to counter the loudmouth gun fanatics? (Original post)
Laurian Jan 2013 OP
gateley Jan 2013 #1
Skittles Jan 2013 #2
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #28
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #3
murray hill farm Jan 2013 #9
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #10
jberryhill Jan 2013 #4
Flashmann Jan 2013 #5
jberryhill Jan 2013 #7
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #47
Brigid Jan 2013 #19
TheCowsCameHome Jan 2013 #6
muntrv Jan 2013 #8
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #11
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #21
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #22
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #23
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #26
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #27
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #29
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #31
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #33
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #37
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #39
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #40
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #41
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #42
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #43
RomneyLies Jan 2013 #12
Laurian Jan 2013 #15
JaneyVee Jan 2013 #13
sarisataka Jan 2013 #14
Kaleva Jan 2013 #16
Laurian Jan 2013 #17
Kaleva Jan 2013 #18
OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #20
Laurian Jan 2013 #24
krispos42 Jan 2013 #30
SpartanDem Jan 2013 #35
ehrenfeucht games Jan 2013 #25
B Calm Jan 2013 #32
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #34
Zoeisright Jan 2013 #36
B Calm Jan 2013 #38
Hoyt Jan 2013 #44
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #45
Hoyt Jan 2013 #46
holdencaufield Jan 2013 #48
muntrv Jan 2013 #49

Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:46 PM

1. Pass the legislation ASAP so they realize the world isn't really ending.

Not sure WE can do much except make our voices heard to our reps.

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Response to gateley (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:47 PM

2. let them know we will not pander to their paranoid delusions

END OF STORY!!!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:45 PM

28. And then what?

I mean, in all seriousness, I'm sure they assume people will uncompromisingly disagree with them. And I'm pretty sure they will uncompromisingly disagree right back. In a free society no one side can unilaterally impose its will.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:49 PM

3. Piss them off by telling them "The President has spoken".... then walk away with a smile on

 

your face.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:34 PM

9. Good one!

I like it a lot! LOL!

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Response to murray hill farm (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:51 PM

10. Yep, they can't come by with an answer then.

 

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:50 PM

4. Tell them to clean and handle their guns several times a day

Statistically, that will ensure a reduction in their number.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:53 PM

5. Statistically, that will ensure a reduction in their number.

You're bad!!!........

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Response to Flashmann (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:53 PM

7. They are the single greatest threat to themselves

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:57 PM

47. Well said.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:38 PM

19. You win.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:53 PM

6. Tell them to keep whining,

and that they're doing a fine job of sinking their own boat.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:16 PM

8. Tell them to do a photo-op with the Pink Pistols.

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Response to muntrv (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:05 PM

11. I clicked on the link, and the first thing I saw was some images created by the gun fetishist...

 

...Oleg Volk.

How is that any different from the NRA?

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:41 PM

21. Look at the messages...

Armed gays don't get bashed...

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:01 PM

22. How are gun fetishists like Oleg Volk significantly different from the NRA?

 

The propaganda of gun fetishists like Oleg Volk and the propoganda of the NRA seem quite similar to my untrained eye.

Can you really tell the difference?

Oleg Volk:



NRA:

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #22)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:03 PM

23. What does that have to do with the Pink Pistols

A gay shooting group

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #23)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:16 PM

26. When I clicked on the link, my eyes were assaulted by Oleg Volk images.

 

Let's be very clear about what Oleg Volk is all about, shall we?

The main indication that gun control in America has failed is the fact that its supporters are still alive. Millions of people who have invested in arms, training and lobbying in response to past restrictive legislation have no plans to surrender. If gun control efforts begin to infringe significantly on their ability to fight in the future, those who wish to disarm others will be killed.


http://www.a-human-right.com/effective.html

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #26)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:29 PM

27. Two women holding each other is an assault on your eyes?

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:03 PM

31. Still nothing to do with the Pinks

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:14 PM

33. I'm unsure about

 

... what is assaulting your eyes ... is it the gun or the girl?

Or is it the leg warmers?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #33)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:28 PM

37. It's Oleg Volk that is assaulting my eyes.

 

Gun fetishists like Oleg Volk and the NRA deserve to be shunned.

They are Domestic Terrorists.


The main indication that gun control in America has failed is the fact that its supporters are still alive. Millions of people who have invested in arms, training and lobbying in response to past restrictive legislation have no plans to surrender. If gun control efforts begin to infringe significantly on their ability to fight in the future, those who wish to disarm others will be killed.


http://www.a-human-right.com/effective.html










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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:33 PM

39. "... deserve to be shunned"

 

Are we Amish now?


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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #39)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:36 PM

40. If you can't see the problem with using the work of Domestic Terrorists in an approving manner, ...

 

...then there's likely nothing that I can say that will help you.

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:42 PM

41. Domestic Terrorist?

 

Are we talking about Oleg Volk or Tim McVeigh?

Is Mr. Volk even on the No-Fly List?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #41)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:45 PM

42. Oleg Volk and the NRA.

 

I didn't mention Timothy McVeigh, but I'd be happy to add him to the list.

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Response to ehrenfeucht games (Reply #42)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:52 PM

43. I thought you might not add him ...

 

... because he didn't use a gun -- just fertilizer

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:06 PM

12. I just hit "Alert abuse", "disruptive", and tick the TOS box.

 



OH, you were talking about away from DU.

Never mind.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:15 PM

15. Yes, outside of DU.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:07 PM

13. Actually, I don't think we are being drowned out, it seems the tide may be turning.

The recent polls suggest it.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:14 PM

14. Nothing

Because if Obama is the 'best gun salesman' them Jones and Lapierre are the best speakers for gun control...

Edit- forgot Nugent, he is the best spokesman for bringing back straight jackets

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:22 PM

16. I e-mail, call and also post on my Representative's Facebook page

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:25 PM

17. I'm wondering if real letters might be more effective. Do you

have an opinion about what form of feedback Representatives and Senators are most sensitive to?

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Response to Laurian (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:32 PM

18. I get responses from my e-mails.

By the info you provide when using the contact form at your representative's official website, they'll see that you are a constituent.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:38 PM

20. Money, it all about money.

 

The difference between 'you' and 'them' is money. The people belonging to the NRA are DUES PAYING MEMBERS. They believe in their convictions so much so that they are literally willing to put their money where their mouth's are. The NRA garners something like 200+ million dollars per year and god knows how much they'll rake in this year with all the paranoid nuts all whipped up into a frenzy. 'You' on the other hand simply run around signing petitions and complaining on the internet.

And in the end all the politicians, media, lobbyists, and corporations care about is money.
The answer is simple: Donate/generate Anti-Gun Money.

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Response to OneTenthofOnePercent (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:11 PM

24. I have contributed to organizations fighting

for gun control, but I do have limited means......unlike the gun manufacturers. I think we need some big money benefactors on our side.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:04 PM

30. Gun makers don't make a lot of money

Well, they didn't until Obama was elected, at least.

Ruger makes about $50 million a year after taxes and expenses and such; gross revenues in the first 3 quarters of 2012 was $350 million, but like most manufacturing outfits they see maybe a 10% profit.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/95029/000117494712000427/v326784_10q.htm



Looks like they sell 1.6 million guns a year, so they're clearing about $30 per gun.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #24)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:21 PM

35. It's not just about big donars

Pew just did a poll people who prioritize gun right vs control are 4 times as likely to have donated money to an org that represents their views.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:13 PM

25. Shunning. (nt)

 


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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:07 PM

32. Ask them if having a gun makes them

more safe? If they answer yes, then ask them if that's true then why isn't America the safest country in the world?

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Response to B Calm (Reply #32)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:20 PM

34. My firearm ...

 

... makes me and mine safer only in a specific set of circumstances which I hope will never occur. They will do little to prevent drownings, falls, car accidents or heart disease which are by and far bigger risks than firearms.

That being said, maybe to be more safe, America needs MORE responsible gun owners, not less?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:23 PM

36. What a fucking stupid post.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #36)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:31 PM

38. I think he missed my whole point,

kinda went over his head a little.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #44)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:53 PM

45. I've been a minority all my life ...

 

... I'm OK with that.

Do you have a problem with minorities?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:56 PM

46. I are one too, except when it comes to wanting gun cultists restricted.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:58 PM

48. I'm insulted you would call like-minded indviduals a cult

 

We prefer the term coven.

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Response to Laurian (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:28 PM

49. Tell them to enlist in the Army if they love guns so much.

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