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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:54 PM

Dreamliner Forced Into Emergency Landing

Dreamliner Forced Into Emergency Landing

A Boeing 787 Dreamliner has made an emergency landing in Japan after smoke appeared in the cabin, according to reports.

Public broadcaster NHK said the aircraft, operated by All Nippon Airways Co, made the landing in Takamatsu in western Japan.

All passengers on board were evacuated it said. The plane was heading for Haneda Airport in Tokyo.

http://news.sky.com/story/1038642/dreamliner-forced-into-emergency-landing

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The Straight Story Jan 2013 OP
marmar Jan 2013 #1
RomneyLies Jan 2013 #2
quinnox Jan 2013 #3
madokie Jan 2013 #4
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #6
Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #8
amandabeech Jan 2013 #5
FarCenter Jan 2013 #9
amandabeech Jan 2013 #12
FarCenter Jan 2013 #16
amandabeech Jan 2013 #17
Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #10
amandabeech Jan 2013 #13
Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #14
amandabeech Jan 2013 #15
FarCenter Jan 2013 #7
pipoman Jan 2013 #11
lonestarnot Jan 2013 #18

Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:56 PM

1. Memo to Boeing: You were supposed to build an airplane, not a thrill ride.





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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:57 PM

2. Boeing stock will take a dump tomorrow n/t

 

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:58 PM

3. now starting to wonder when one of these lemons will crash

 

the dreamliner is turning into a nightmare for boeing.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:59 PM

4. Aren't many manufacturing facilities responsible for making the many components of this plane?

Seems like I remember they were trying to undercut their Union labor by using right to work state workers

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Response to madokie (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:06 PM

6. Yes. And they've admitted that it was a disaster. nt

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Response to madokie (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:12 PM

8. Boeing was detirmined to make a go of being a "virtual aircraft builder"

A lot of great technology, but this is what happens when indeology trumps rationality. They were so determined to make their unionized employees less and less relevant going forward they cut their noses off to spite their faces.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:59 PM

5. Sometimes, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself.

Boeing outsourced nearly everything in the Dreamliner and not to companies with a long and excellent history of making parts for Boeing.

A lot of their outsourcing overseas was done to get national airlines to buy the Dreamliner.

Now, those airlines won't buy the Dreamliner because it isn't fit to fly.

Boeing might as well just shut down the Dreamline line and start over, making the parts themselves or trusting them only those to have produced excellent parts in the recent past.

Somehow, I have the feeling that Boeing isn't the only company that will learn the outsourcing lesson the hard way.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:14 PM

9. If it is the batteries again, they are from Japan's GS Yuasa via Thales of France

The APU battery is one of two primary batteries in the 787; the other is the main battery in the forward E/E bay. Both are provided by Japan-based battery manufacturer GS Yuasa as part of the Thales-supplied electrical-power conversion system. The 787 contract, first announced in 2005, marked the first commercial aviation application of lithium-ion technology and was selected over contemporary nickel-cadmium because it provided 100% greater energy storage capacity and double the energy from the same-size unit.


http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_01_14_2013_p19-534758.xml

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:12 PM

12. I hope that this new lithium system doesn't end up being a chronic problem

like the '70s British made automotive electrical systems.

I had a friend in law school who had a little British sports car from that era. At least once every two weeks I'd find Jeff at my library carrel, at night and dripping wet . I got a pizza every time I went out to give him a jump.

Fun car to drive, but I myself would have only gone out in it on a dry sunny day with a tow truck following at a discreet distance.

Unfortunately, airliners can't have a tow truck flying at a discreet distance behind.

Count me out as a 787 passenger.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:14 PM

16. Old joke --- Q. Why do the English drink their beer warm?

A. They have Lucas refrigerators.

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:19 PM

17. ROFLOL!!! That's a good one!

Thanks for sharing.

It's been a tough day, and that just hit the spot. Warm beer, not so much.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:17 PM

10. For years cons defended globalization by saying aircraft exports are a US strength

All the subbing out of components overseas, including major subsections ( well before the 787 line ) would tend to erode the value of the much ballyhooed "exports" of aircraft.

These cons ( and third way types ) were the same crowd trying to bullshit us into thinking free trade was good bcause our exports were growing...while studiously ignoring the imports growing faster yet.

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Response to Populist_Prole (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:14 PM

13. You and I see things alike.

I've derisively been called a populist in my day, but I have always considered it a complement. Or is that "compliment?"

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:12 PM

14. Cheers



I never once thought of it as a derogatory term, as would those looking for "reds" under their beds. Indeed, the only types that consider the term populist a negative one are the tools for the 1 percent.

My hard-ass right wing father gets madder than hell at me for referring to myself as working class rather than middle class because I put a human face, one that he identifies with in many ways, on a group of people he "must" dislike due to his doctrinaire politics. The cognitive dissonance boils his guts worse than an ulcer.

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Response to Populist_Prole (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:29 PM

15. He's obviously very bothered by what is going on.

That's too bad for both of you.

My parents managed to make it up to the lower middle/middle class by the time I was in high school, but they both always identified with folks who work but don't make a lot of money at it.

I'll be looking for your posts!

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:11 PM

7. More lithium ion battery "teething" problems?

Should've stuck to NiCads, which are used in other aircraft. Or maybe gone to nickle hydrides from whoever makes the Prius batteries.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:39 PM

11. China

Boeing moved there..the labor part anyway...tell them..

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:20 PM

18. Isn't that the second one within a week?

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