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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCould the Massacres Here at Home be Karma for What we Have Done Overseas?
Is it possible that if we work to stop our government from exporting terror overseas, we will find peace here at home?
quinnox
(20,600 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)Funny that.
All it takes is a simple click. Though it won't have any effect - yet.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)There might be a connection. It is possible that because we place so much pride in our military and we spend so much on the military, that people get the idea that violence is virtuous. It is also possible that because we spend so much on the military that we neglect so many people that it has created a perfect place for violence to grow. I am not just talking about poor people, especially since many of the mass murderers appear to have been well off. But, it is possible that we have created a climate where everyone is expected to keep a stiff upper lip no matter what and some people get to a breaking point, no one notices because it is shameful to admit that a person might have issues.
Perhaps, if we are all kinder to each other and we petition our government to stop the bloodshed things could get a lot better. I can dream.
GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)Though we can just make the assumption that there are more callous people than there are kind people.
hack89
(39,171 posts)if we are fostering an atmosphere that codons violence?
That is what I don't understand.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl01.xls
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Maybe people are kinder to each other and I hadn't noticed. I don't get out much. But, the military spending dropping like it needs to hasn't happened. Still maybe there is less of people seeing military might as a virtue. It could be we have had some subtle cultural changes and we are starting to feel the effects. I don't know it isn't like a meta study has been done on this. And it isn't as if our media is all about keeping us informed. Perhaps we can talk and figure out what could have caused the dramatic drop in violent crime. Because what ever has caused that we need to keep doing.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)there's no point in tighter regulations to try to control it
No matter what we do, it's now our destiny to shoot each other.
randome
(34,845 posts)The OP is ridiculous.
Follow The Money
(141 posts)we killed over one million innocent people in Iraq, wasted trillions, and no one was held accountable.
I am afraid we are not setting a good example.
bowens43
(16,064 posts)the guns are the problem. Guns kill people.
Follow The Money
(141 posts)nt
jpak
(41,756 posts)Karma - it will bite you in the ass!
yup
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,337 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)This is just as batshit crazy as saying God allowed it to happen because we took prayer out of schools.
Follow The Money
(141 posts)and this is a message board where you are free to choose another topic.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)It can't be. I never voted for Bush and I've been voting since 1992.
So I take ZERO responsibility for Iraq or Afghanistan, protested both, and resent having to pay one thin red cent for something I didn't condone in the first place.
If it was Karma - it would have been a bunch of folks at a Tea Party Meetup - not innocent little kids.
And even though the IndieTeaPubs want to play ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh - I didn't like Bush either . . .
They are the stupid f*cks that voted for him not once, but twice, McCain/Palin, and PhoneyBaloney/Lyin.
The blood is on their hands. Not mine. They wanted those murders - they own them. But unfortunately I'll pay for it fiscally for the rest of my life.
Actually - real Karma would be a list of who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and taking all of their cash assets to pay for their 'folly of murder'.
But to blame it on those of us who have been here ALL of this time - and not just here at DU - but active anti war protestors - truthfully . . . I know you are new here - but you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
May I ask - when did you all of a sudden wake up and realize that the Bush Co Cabal was full of shit? And why are you falling for the 'you are either with us or . . .' Sorry - he called me out and others like me for being unAmerican traitors so I'm going to sit right and point the finger back at those who voted and supported for him. Who went 'shopping' instead of questioning that god damned fool!
tama
(9,137 posts)The term and idea was launched by great American, Thoreau, from whom Gandhi, MLK and many others got their inspiration from. Thoreau's original form of civil disobedience was refusal to pay taxes to fund America's imperialistic wars.
Follow The Money
(141 posts)This is why I don't trust the media at all, the helped lie about all the 'evidence' to start these wars.
I didn't mean to blame DUers, I was blaming the collective US, our policy.
And I was fighting too, but I still feel responsible, because we didn't succeed. not really.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)Follow The Money
(141 posts)then allow weapons dealers to sell them all over the world.
We are arming the world.
We are exporting guns and terror everywhere.
Let's not just stop the assault weapons in this country, let's stop allowing them to export them as well.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)different ones than those that cause the hurricanes though.
Hugabear
(10,340 posts)The East Coast gays are responsible for the hurricanes.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)I think you've nailed it
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Still Blue in PDX
(1,999 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)In their history, the number of slaughtered Africans surpasses even their PRESENT national population...
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Shivering Jemmy
(900 posts)So, no.
One_Life_To_Give
(6,036 posts)Spree killers are typically male and go from seemingly normal to homicidal nuts over night. What effect does trying to live up to a John Wayne macho image play in pushing men to the breaking point?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Makes sense to me.
RZM
(8,556 posts)It's been a while since I've seen it, but I do remember him attempting to link the Kosovo bombing campaign and the Columbine shooting.
I don't recall that argument making any sense at all.
And I don't believe in karma, so the answer is 'no.'
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)and destruction for over a century and not expect to pay some price.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)Follow The Money
(141 posts)This is all because women are ugly
Rex
(65,616 posts)NeedleCast
(8,827 posts)Karma isn't real.
This is as ridiculous as saying homosexuality causes hurricanes. Honestly, it makes me angry that any sane person would suggest such a think.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)That's perhaps the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)but it should gives us more empathy for those we have harmed in a similar way:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1555005/Seven-children-die-as-US-bombs-Afghan-school.html
We should have a better idea what those parents are going through and have zero tolerance for "collateral" deaths.