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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:07 PM

Sandy Hook "Truthers" Harrassing Man Who Protected Children

...the extreme right cannot deal with reality so they invent a new one and start harrassing decent people.

TUESDAY, JAN 15, 2013 04:45 AM PST
This man helped save six children, is now getting harassed for it
Gene Rosen sheltered six kids during the Sandy Hook massacre. Now he's become a target of conspiracy theorists





“I don’t know what to do,” sighed Gene Rosen. “I’m getting hang up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘how much am I being paid’?” Someone posted a photo of his house online. There have been phony Google+ and YouTube accounts created in his name, messages on white supremacist message boards ridiculing the “emotional Jewish guy,” and dozens of blog posts and videos “exposing” him as a fraud. One email purporting to be a business inquiry taunted: “How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?”


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What did Rosen do to deserve this? One month ago, he found six little children and a bus driver at the end of the driveway of his home in Newtown, Connecticut. “We can’t go back to school,” one little boy told Rosen. “Our teacher is dead.” He brought them inside and gave them food and juice and toys. He called their parents. He sat with them and listened to their shocked accounts of what had happened just down the street inside Sandy Hook Elementary, close enough that Rosen heard the gunshots.


http://www.salon.com/2013/01/15/this_man_helped_save_six_children_is_now_getting_harassed_for_it/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/01/15/1179111/-Sandy-Hook-Truthers-Harrassing-Man-Who-Protected-Children

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Reply Sandy Hook "Truthers" Harrassing Man Who Protected Children (Original post)
kpete Jan 2013 OP
lunasun Jan 2013 #1
cpwm17 Jan 2013 #2
BeyondGeography Jan 2013 #3
alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #4
Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #85
siligut Jan 2013 #5
Bucky Jan 2013 #22
siligut Jan 2013 #27
NightOwwl Jan 2013 #93
siligut Jan 2013 #95
Brickbat Jan 2013 #6
Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #34
siligut Jan 2013 #7
freshwest Jan 2013 #8
Odin2005 Jan 2013 #9
whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #10
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #21
Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #23
Wednesdays Jan 2013 #42
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #45
jberryhill Jan 2013 #52
pnwmom Jan 2013 #57
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #60
jberryhill Jan 2013 #62
pnwmom Jan 2013 #72
jberryhill Jan 2013 #87
pnwmom Jan 2013 #88
cpwm17 Jan 2013 #24
Joey Liberal Jan 2013 #11
Canoe52 Jan 2013 #12
whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #14
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #18
Bucky Jan 2013 #26
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #37
jberryhill Jan 2013 #84
whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #70
whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #80
jberryhill Jan 2013 #54
whatchamacallit Jan 2013 #73
bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #13
siligut Jan 2013 #31
JackRiddler Jan 2013 #75
2naSalit Jan 2013 #15
Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #36
2naSalit Jan 2013 #40
Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #49
2naSalit Jan 2013 #53
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #16
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #17
Comrade_McKenzie Jan 2013 #19
Glassunion Jan 2013 #28
LanternWaste Jan 2013 #46
Glassunion Jan 2013 #74
Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #48
Chemisse Jan 2013 #56
WinkyDink Jan 2013 #20
ErikJ Jan 2013 #50
Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2013 #92
jberryhill Jan 2013 #55
PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #25
OldEurope Jan 2013 #29
Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #30
bluestateguy Jan 2013 #32
samsingh Jan 2013 #33
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Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #59
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:14 PM

1. this is our country now????

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:19 PM

2. Accusing the innocent is typical behavior of the CT crowd

Conspiracy theorists pray on the innocent. If you add in gun nuts to the mix, it can be dangerous.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:26 PM

3. These people are the lowest of the low

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:30 PM

4. And they wonder why we call them gun nuts

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:26 PM

85. +1

Make no mistake about it, these Sandy Hook "Truthers" are conservative gun nuts.

No question about it. These are the same gun nut assholes that peddled the fast and furious conspiracy theory.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:33 PM

5. This is gang stalking and is illegal

http://trac.syr.edu/laws/18/18USC00241.html

CITE

18 USC Sec. 241 01/05/2009
EXPCITE

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 13 - CIVIL RIGHTS
HEAD

Sec. 241. Conspiracy against rights
STATUTE

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or
intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth,
Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any
right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of
the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;

or
If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the
premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free
exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured -
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than
ten years, or both;
and if death results from the acts committed in
violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an
attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit
aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined
under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life,
or both, or may be sentenced to death.


The police in Newton told him there is nothing they can do. He needs support and he needs to know about gang stalking tactics. He is feeling exactly what they want now. Learning and being informed would benefit him greatly.

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Response to siligut (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:27 PM

22. You know these people will decide presecution for harassment is proof of a cover up

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Response to Bucky (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:32 PM

27. Yes, and they will support each other in their group delusion

Documentation and procedure is the solution. Mr. Rosen is being harassed in a very systematic manner. Awareness of gang stalking tactics will provide guidance to the investigation and support the charges against these thugs.

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Response to siligut (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:47 AM

93. I don't understand...

why they are still walking free.

What they are doing is outrageous and inhumane and it is violence just waiting to happen.

Why has no one made a move to arrest them?

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Response to NightOwwl (Reply #93)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:40 AM

95. They say they are just exercising their rights and then claim persecution

There are no laws to arrest people for what might happen. However there is a specific law against this, as they are interfering with another persons civil rights. Mr. Rosen was advised to contact the FBI and last I heard, that is what he did.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:33 PM

6. They're not "truthers." They are attention whores, emotionally stunted losers and are infected with

a chronic low-level cruelty. Shame on them.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:41 PM

34. yeah, some are true nuts, but i'm betting a sizable portion of this crowd

are teenagers or internet losers trolling because they think it's funny and have nothing better to do...

If nothing else, trolling is very, very "contagious"...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:36 PM

7. How can we contact this guy?

I wonder if any attempts will be blocked due to the gang stalking he is trying to avoid. He needs to know what tactics they use.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:39 PM

8. Typical of the Infowars, Beck, Koch, hate the government crowd. They blame all of these on Obama.

Every single one, usually within the hour that they make the news. And they're mobilizing to create the brownshirt facism that they claim they hate - running around to town councils, voting lines or anywhere they can intimidate people. But they are 'right' and we just 'statists' and welfare moochers.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:43 PM

9. Sick, sick people!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:51 PM

10. Thanks for helping spread bogus and deceitful linkage between any nut jobs

and people who have legitimate questions about 9/11. It's all the rage right now in social engineering circles.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:23 PM

21. ANOTHER CONSPIRACAH!!!!!!!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:28 PM

23. All conspiracy theorists are a scourge on society.

 

I support social darwinism for any individual or group spouting this kind of garbage.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:49 PM

42. I don't recall anyone stalking the victims of 9/11

Do you?

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:51 PM

45. I remember some pretty offensive shit about "vicsims"

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:03 PM

52. Yeah... it happened


The family of the pilot of Flight 77 was harassed, as was the woman who took the first photograph of smoke rising from the Shanksville flight. A number of other random families were harassed by people who believed that all of the Pentagon victims were fake.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:11 PM

57. Apparently Robert Kennedy was a conspiracy theorist.

According to his son, he thought his brother's death was part of a conspiracy.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #57)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:20 PM

60. Some conspiracies are real.

Most are not.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #57)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:36 PM

62. And according to Ted, he wasn't

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #62)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:18 PM

72. Robert Kennedy, as the Attorney General, might have had access to information

that Ted didn't.

Or maybe Ted decided that his public statements should be circumspect. Or maybe two brothers simply had different opinions. But that doesn't mean Robert's opinion, if his son is correct, wasn't reasonable.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #72)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:41 PM

87. "maybe Ted decided that his public statements should be circumspect"


Why? He had a terminal disease and knew his book wouldn't be published until he was dead.

So which is it:

1. Ted Kennedy was oddly incurious or too dumb to figure it out, and Bobby kept secrets from him about their own brother's death;

2. Ted Kennedy lied in his book to be published posthumously about what he and Bobby knew;

I have previously posed this as the "Ted Kennedy, liar or coward" question, but I see you have already opted for "coward".

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #87)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:09 PM

88. It wouldn't have been cowardly for Ted to not speculate in public on theories he couldn't prove.

And, as I said, he might never have agreed with his brother -- two reasonable men can hold two different opinions.

So I don't know why you are saying that I'm calling him a coward.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:29 PM

24. OP's good

Various conspiracy movements use the same thought processes. They are impervious to logic and have no problem accusing the innocent.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:05 PM

11. How low our country has sunk

It's scary.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:05 PM

12. These "truthers, birthers, gun nuts, republicants"...

Have lost their humanity and any feelings for the world at large.

If they didn't have such a negative impact on the rest of us I would pity them.

What a sick bunch.

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Response to Canoe52 (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:08 PM

14. Exhibit A

Nice try.

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:23 PM

18. Can you elaborate?

I dont understand your post.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:32 PM

26. I'll translate

whatchamacallit is implying Canoe52 is a troll who is only going along with the crowd in this thread to hide his/her nefarious purposes for posting on DU. Because, you know, agreeing with most DUers is the best proof that someone is not a sincere participant on this board.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:44 PM

37. I think I figured it out-

There is a conspiracy to make conspiracy people look bad- by conspiring to pretend that conspiracy people have inane conspiracies around Sandy Hook, and thereby protect the Illuminati Bohemian Grove Satanists from the dedicated fact-finders who are dangerously close to uncovering the "real story" around 9-11.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:21 PM

84. Pretty much


The various species of 9/11 truthers used to point fingers and accuse one another of being plants.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:08 PM

70. Give me a fucking break

In order for my remarks to be clearly understood, I guess we should clear up some terminology issues. What exactly is the definition of a "Truther"? I've never really gotten a straight answer on this. Though I don't belong to any clubs or official organizations, I've allowed people to call me a truther as convenient shorthand for 9/11 skeptic. Clearly a mistake, because according to this and many other threads of late, it means I'm exactly like a Sandy Hook/Birther/Moon Landing CTer, the "lowest of the low" and "scum of the earth"... So what are truthers? Are they, as some would have you believe, de facto members of a monolithic group of mentally ill people who believe every CT? I don't believe most CTs, but I do have doubts about some details of the official story of 9/11. So am I a truther or not? If not, what am I, and if I am, is it fair to call me and everyone like me, scum?

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #70)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:15 PM

80. I guess a fair and honest response

was too much to hope for.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:04 PM

54. This is why I preferred the dungeon at DU2


The DU2 9/11 dungeon was useful in knowing where some people were coming from.

Our friend here was a regular there.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:21 PM

73. Where am I coming from, JBerry?

Maybe you can characterize me, since you seem to think you know.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:07 PM

13. These asshole "We're not getting the REAL story" (re: Sandy Hook) types are totally infesting

message boards all over the Internet right now.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:36 PM

31. Conspiracy thinking creates paranoia

The idea that things are going on beneath it all and you just can't quite get to the truth, it creates paranoia.

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Response to siligut (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:40 PM

75. Actually, institutional secrecy creates paranoia.

It's not really a mystery why there is mistrust when the government has a black budget of $80 billion and routinely lies to start wars and interventions.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:18 PM

15. Okay, one major thought comes to mind here...

IF there were ever a rational excuse for the big brotherism in this country, this is where it should be put to use. If these buttheads want to terrorize , threaten and harass this man for being a good Samaritan, they should be identified by the big brother mechanisms in place, and prosecuted as domestic terrorists. That might put a little big of cognition in place for people who have a penchant for such activity. And I wonder how much some of them are being paid for being the insolent assholes that they appear to be. And all their identities should be made public so that everyone can see who it is that does this kind of crap and they can be further ostracized for it.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:43 PM

36. Most of them are not hiding...

Those that truly beleive this bull anyway. They have there facebook pages covered in this stuff. They go into all sorts of pages on FB to coment on this. Many have done videos and placed them on YouTube to "educate" the public.

The one thing they are not doing is hiding. And yes, some do brag about doing calles like this.

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Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:48 PM

40. Then they should reap the rewards of their malicious behaviors ASAP.

And they should be prosecuted for harassment, libel and terrorist activities and conspiracy to commit terrorist activities. Terrorism isn't confined to explosives and mass killing of the victim. These people are committing crimes.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:58 PM

49. How true.

But till someone does prosecute, it will keep going.

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Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:03 PM

53. Unfortunately, also true.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:20 PM

16. Color me shocked.

NOT.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:22 PM

17. I dont believe in hell...

But there hould be a special place reserved there for these Alex Jones fuckits, nevertheless.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:23 PM

19. I would give up many freedoms to rid society of people like this. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:32 PM

28. Like what?

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:51 PM

46. The freedom to dismiss your question

"Like what?"

The freedom to dismiss your question as ineffectual would be first on my list...

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #46)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:23 PM

74. The poster replied that they would give up many freedoms.

It was ineffectual to ask what freedoms?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:54 PM

48. Careful what you wish for.

You may not like what you get.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:09 PM

56. I wouldn't.

What looks good when aimed at the other side can look pretty ugly when it comes back at you.

But I don't see how we would have to give up any freedoms by making it illegal to systematically harass someone, so as to interfere with his freedoms, as well as his pursuit of happiness.

Free speech doesn't mean you can yell 'fire' in a crowded theatre; it doesn't mean you can print something libelous; and it shouldn't mean you can make someone's life miserable with unwanted and threatening communications.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:23 PM

20. The long-range RW plan---to make all mainstream media "suspect"---is reaping its rewards.



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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:59 PM

50. Fox News is the only one telling the truth

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #50)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:31 PM

92. K&R for the OP and for the Fox Cult image. They really have it all wrapped up. My mom used to reply

the RWers sending her RW BS emails by referring them to the debunking on Snopes.com. But then they began replying that Snopes was owned by George Soros and was all liberal lies. It's brilliant what they've done. I don't see any way the Foxaholics can be saved. We have to stop them getting more members in their cult.

The left needs a very big propaganda machine spreading the truth.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:05 PM

55. +1

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:30 PM

25. The Internet helps like-minded people meet and work together...

this is not always a good thing.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:34 PM

29. Why do you call them truthers when...

...in fact they are liars and hypocrites of the worst breed?

They make me

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:35 PM

30. This group/groups have been yelling that Sand Hook didn't really happen since it happened.

They have been yelling things like the kids were hypnotized to believe that they were involves and that the children that were shot never existed. They were manufactured for the "Hoax".

These guys are crazy as the day is long. They believe that it is to take all the guns away and then enslave the public. They have even done YouTube videos pointing all this out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:36 PM

32. People can't be allowed to just say things like that

I'll just leave it at that.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:40 PM

33. kick - let's help him as he helped others

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Response to samsingh (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:49 PM

41. Do you have a suggestion how we could help?

Or at least show him appreciation?

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Response to OldEurope (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:20 PM

59. that was my first thought, too.

Sounds like he just wants to be left alone, tho.

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Response to OldEurope (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:13 PM

78. should we create a facebook page?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:41 PM

35. That is trully sad...so many crazy people out there.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:46 PM

38. He's Jewish, and the neo-Nazi gun nuts can't handle that.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:36 PM

83. +1

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:47 PM

39. I have no words...

...but I'll try to manage some anyway. They're stalkers, and should be hunted down and treated as such. Let this man live in peace.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:50 PM

43. Of course, the FReepers are all over it

And have been since the shooting - only picking it up more now. I'm sure some of them are among the harassers. Many threads, here's one: http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2976630/posts

Sample from that thread:

To: Ditter

Then you clearly do not understand a thing about the true nature of human emotion. I have explained time and again that these "grieving people" in Newtown are a bunch of damn frauds and liars.
Watch ANY interview with them, and you will see that their emotions are feigned, forced and faked whenever discussing the "incident."

This is a far different response from the people who went through real school shootings like the ones at Columbine and Virginia Tech.

You are free to disagree with me, and join your pals Boogieman and Chip.

But don't think for a second that ANY of the emotion displayed by these losers is REAL.

It's all fake, and they are lying to promote an agenda of total disarmament.


176 posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 8:26:02 PM by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)

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Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #43)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:58 PM

67. Freepers make my skin crawl on a good day, but that is a new low.

I hope that they experience true horror in their lives and instead of empathy and love the universe dishes them right back the feces they hurl at others.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:34 AM

94. Godlike Productions

GLP is also heavily involved in the manufacture and proliferation of this particular conspiracy theory, some of their more fringe elements take it a step further however: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2113467/pg1

Has anyone been by (Address redacted) in Sandy Hook yet? We need to know if Robbie and Alissa and their 2 daughters really live there. Then we can send them some gifts you know.


It's a cesspool, enter with caution.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:50 PM

44. X_X

think this is the most disgusting thing I've ever read actually and I've read some horrible shit. and they say Muslims are bad? Compared to Muslims we look like the Devil. Rage is a good word here. and I'm seriously not the sort to punch someone. (which came up recently but I'll leave that to myself) Best thing I can do is. So you guys support Israel. Did you know your extremely pro Iran. Because the heads in Iran are ahem Holocaust truthers. They didn't see it thus it didn't happen. The 9/11 conspiracy is bush and chewy blew the towers up not that it didn't happen. I don't believe in that one specifically. because one Bush had no brains and Dick I wouldn't give him that much credit.

But I can't put to words on my feelings of this "bullshit" All I can say is it's the typical bait crap where they do these things to provoke a reaction so they feel like see we are right he's a nutcase. or See they hate us. See that guy is full of hate and rage.

I've never watched the Star Trek Remake (hate <--- yes I do hate) hate the word reboot. but brother had it on. and I guess (spoiler alert) the older spock told the younger kirk to attempt to get the younger spock to show his emotions thus he's been emotionally compromised and thus no longer captain. Spock. ie hi I'm spock I have no emotion Spock.... Which is to suggest that even a person without any emotion can be pushed so far and still have emotion. Although the Amish would be one in Witness to think they have no emotion if someone bullies them but Harrison Ford doesn't like that so he goes off. But whether thats pure fiction or reality I don't know.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:52 PM

47. I would like to object to calling liars 'truthers'.

To do so implies they seek or speak the truth, when the fact is they are in denial of the truth.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:00 PM

51. This is how Repukes think and behave, if this shocks some here

then I wonder...where were you when the BFEE was in office!? The RAN their administration JUST LIKE these idiots are running with their CT. No facts, outright lies, outlandish and insincere Repukes that live their entire life as a LIE.

This is their faith in whatever the Foxnews/Koch types tells them to think, believe etc..


"I can think...braaaaaainnns, braaaaaaiiiinnss and Foxnews."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:18 PM

58. How much of this has to do with his being Jewish?

Probably a fair amount.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:23 PM

61. Government sponsored hoax?


There's a pattern here. Any horrendous tragedy that questions their beloved guns has got to be the result of some major conspiracy. No, a guy couldn't have gone evil or nuts and murdered twenty children with Major Peacemaker, even though this sort of thing has happened before and they haven't disputed it. No, Newtown is a conspiracy, and there's no coincidence they harass the guy with the Jewish name. That's a pattern, too.

I can see this is going to turn tragic, all because some people insist that closer look will tell us two and two is six.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #61)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:39 PM

63. It's similar to the "truther" crowd accusing the firemen of being in on 9-11

the very same firemen who lost over 300 trying to rescue their fellow citizens – pure scum. And not coincidentally, the "truthers" accuse the building owner with a Jewish name of being in on the tragedy.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:47 PM

64. Everyone who is harassing belongs in a state run mental hospital.

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Response to pam4water (Reply #64)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:15 PM

79. That would be a disservice to the poor folks

in state mental hospitals.

These folks are criminals, pure and simple.

They disgust me.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #79)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:23 PM

81. IDK They seem delusional to me n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:47 PM

65. OMG

these are some very sick puppies. They probably all own guns, too. It just gets worse & worse. This poor man. What the hell is going on in this country????

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:48 PM

66. I also object to the moniker "truthers" in the OP

The OP very well knows that this term is used in conjunction with 9/11 and the many unexplained occurrences on that day. They are called "truthers", because they are bound and determined to dig out the truth instead of just accepting explanations that cannot be supported by facts or physics.

By using that hot button term we have some on here making the false assumption that ALL conspiracy theories are bogus. Tell that to Gulf of Tonkin, the incubator attack story in Kuwait just before the the first Iraq war, Downing Street Memos...

This story is a tragic one and the sick assholes who harass this man should be thrown in jail, but please don't use this tragedy as a platform for declaring that the word "conspiracy" shouldn't be in the English dictionary. Its an actual word, and it describes an actual thing.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #66)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:31 PM

86. No, Truthers are precisely the same as the Sandy Hook hoax nutters.

The so-called physics arguments by the Truther Nutjob Brigade have been debunked over and over and over and over and over again.

Actually, the 911 Truthers are perhaps worse, since there's actual video of the planes hitting the buildings.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #86)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:04 PM

96. You are a dreamer

Rainbows and unicorns.....

You are the epitome of the classic sucker for The Big Lie theory. BTW, who says that planes never hit the towers?

Tell this to the experts on the other side:

http://physics911.ca/members/

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #66)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:15 PM

91. Thank you!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:00 PM

68. Is the major media picking up on this story (such as Anderson Cooper)?

If not, why not.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:01 PM

69. Paging "Anonymous"

Some White-Hats needed.

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #69)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:33 PM

82. Yeah, there are more rocks that must be overturned. . .

. . .to expose the maggots underneath.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:11 PM

71. These assholes are helping adam lanza from beyond his gun

riddled grave. Now, they're terrorizing the parents of the precioius kids who were massacred and the man who helped 6 escape.

Domestic Terrorists need to be held accountable.

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:52 PM

76. It's also creating paranoia and crazy.

Never a good mix. Add guns, which many of these people seem to have a shit-load of nowadays, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #76)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:57 PM

77. Exactly.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:34 AM

89. Kick

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:10 AM

90. it is a sure sign the cowards are losing the gun war

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