HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Hand Grenades? Well, allr...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:23 AM

Hand Grenades? Well, allrighty then!

OK then.

A Sheriff in Kentucky, Denny Peyman of Jackson County, says he feels a moral obligation to not enforce any new gun laws as part of his duty to protect the American Constitution. Okay. Not sure that's a moral obligation when he has access to the federal and state courts to object to any laws on Constitutional grounds ... Oh, excuse me. He also says, as sheriff, he has more power than the Federal and state governments. He can tell federal and state officials to leave his county and they have to obey him, according to his interpretation of the laws that govern our country and his state.

“The sheriff has more power than the federal people,” Peyman said Saturday at a press conference. “They need to go back and study that. We’re a commonwealth, I can ask the federal people to leave and they have to leave. I can ask state people to leave and they have to leave.”


Hmmm. Never knew there was a clause in either the US or Kentucky Constitutions that made sheriffs so all-powerful. But this is the kicker, for me. He said people should be allowed, under the 2nd amendment to carry grenades if they need them. No seriously, he did.

Peyman said he was even open to allowing people to own hand grenades “if it was necessary for self protection.”


Well Skippy, sign me up for M1 Abrams tank and some FIM-92 Stinger surface-to-air missiles. I mean, we get a lot of funny looking helicopters flying overhead in my neck of the woods. Might be someday they might prove to be controlled by the UN's new world order. Wouldn't be prudent of me not to be armed with the weapons I need. I'm sure Sheriff Peyman would agree. Videos of his press conference can be viewed at Raw Story.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/1/15/7210/90819

15 replies, 1188 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread

Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:28 AM

1. Yeah. Why bother to go in and shoot up a room when you could just toss a grenade in? n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brewens (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:34 AM

2. if anything, I like his theory that he has authority over the state and fed even better

it would be even funnier if it wasn't also unsettling

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:04 AM

9. In Idaho, our illustrious Congressthing Helen Chenoweth, introduced her Yokel Sheriffs

Bill. At least I think it was her. That would have been around 1990 I think. That was meant to force federal authorities to notify sheriffs of any action and maybe even force them to get the sheriffs approval.

I laughed at that one. So any good 'ol boys in cahoots with the sheriff in some illegal activity, could sleep better at night.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brewens (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:11 AM

13. interesting, did that bill become state law?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:10 AM

11. Printz v. U.S. (521 U.S. 898) is what he is likely reffering to.

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:36 AM

3. Why would a sheriff automatically assume ...

... that those heavily armed civilians wouldn't be shooting (or lobbing grenades) at him and his people?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:36 AM

4. Grenades are lousy defensive weapons.

Claymores would be much more effective and better suited to such purposes. Grenades are really better for offensive actions, and should not be considered for self defense except as a last resort.

(The RKBA crowd has taught me to quibble well.)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bluedigger (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:55 AM

7. Yeah, and they're curved to fit your body!

Just strap that puppy to your over sized beer belly turn to face the enemy!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to flamin lib (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:10 AM

12. It's really more of a soda belly - I haven't had a beer in weeks.

Not that you should be disparaging it in the first place!


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:37 AM

5. That's some Sovereign Citizen bullshit right there

 

Sovereign Citizen whack jobs all say sheriffs are the most powerful law enforcement in the land.

When they merged with birthers they kept saying any sheriff can arrest the president and there's nothing the secret service can do about it.

Yes, they are that nuts, and this sheriff is spouting their bullshit.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to RomneyLies (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:52 AM

6. you just made me realize there's some kind of primate-psychology thing going on here

it's like a bunch of people are failing to cope with modern civilization, and a democracy with 300 million people in a global economy, etc, etc, and are (consciously or unconsciously) saying "fuck all that, I find it much more comforting to pretend we're all a bunch of villages again." Or maybe even just tribes.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:01 AM

8. According to Scalia the word "bear" in the 2nd means "to carry" as in lift and hold.

(Fox News interview) Therefore any weapon that a human is capable of lifting is covered by the 2nd: Stinger missiles, hand grenades, anti-tank rockets, RPGs etc.

Jurist, yes. Linguist, not so much.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:09 AM

10. I don't see the problem here. Just cut off all federal funding in this county....

Interstate highway runs through this county? Don't maintain it.
County airport? Remove the FAA and all equipment.
Post office? Close it.
After all it was a representative of that county that asked the federal people to leave.
So, they left!

Hows that working out for ya sheriff.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:17 AM

14. He'll get a smack down.

but it won't be a public one.

A little call from the feds will cure his stupidity.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to phantom power (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:35 AM

15. I wonder if someone owned a plane

which they could drop bombs from...would they be allowed to have bombs?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread