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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:51 PM

Two pain pills.

Troubling number of women denied constitutional rights based on pregnancy

In the first study of its kind, to be published on Tuesday, researchers from the National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW) identified 413 criminal and civil cases across 44 states involving the arrests, detentions and equivalent deprivations of pregnant women’s liberty between 1973 and 2005. NAWP said that it is aware of a further 250 cases since 2005. Both figures are likely to be underestimates, it said.

The report, which will appear in the Journal of Health Politics, Policy and Law, found that women were denied a wide range of basic human rights, including the right to life, liberty, equal protection and due process of law “based solely on their pregnancy status”.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/14/troubling-number-of-women-denied-constitutional-rights-due-to-pregnancy/


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Jamie Lynn Russell: One Pregnant Woman's Tragic Death Reveals the Human Cost of Devaluing Women
by Farah Diaz-Tello, National Advocates for Pregnant Women
January 14, 2013 - 9:34am



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Jamie Lynn Russell was 33 years old when she went to an emergency room in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma in such debilitating pain that she was unable to move. Because her excruciating pain prevented her from lying down for an examination, hospital staff labeled her "noncompliant," and called the police. The police discovered that she had two pain pills that weren't hers. Still in pain, she was released by the hospital as "fit to incarcerate," arrested for drug possession, and taken to jail, where she died two hours later from a ruptured ectopic pregnancy.

Two pain pills.

Much of the initial response to the case centered around the actions of the hospital, which likely amount to malpractice. But we must avoid making the mistake that the hospital did: looking at individual actions when they are merely symptoms of deeper, deadlier problems.

Jamie's needless death shows us where our priorities lie, misplaced: chasing down minor drug offenders in service of a failed war on drugs is more important that human life and dignity; women's health is not taken seriously and "noncompliance" is cause for punishment.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2010/08/11/refusingcsection-child-abuse
The tragedy of her death once again disproves the myth that women never need abortions and that "modern technology and science" have eliminated maternal mortality.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/10/19/163239925/life-of-the-mother-never-a-reason-for-abortion-congressman-says

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the rest:
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2013/01/11/dehumanizing-pregnant-women-leads-to-real-loss-life
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/15/criminalisation-pregnancy-women-study

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kpete Jan 2013 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2013 #1
Solly Mack Jan 2013 #2
abelenkpe Jan 2013 #3
cer7711 Jan 2013 #4
freshwest Jan 2013 #5
gtar100 Jan 2013 #6
ReRe Jan 2013 #9
Overseas Jan 2013 #7
ReRe Jan 2013 #8
okaawhatever Jan 2013 #12
kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #15
ReRe Jan 2013 #17
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #10
Mimosa Jan 2013 #11
kooljerk666 Jan 2013 #13
AzDar Jan 2013 #14
LisaLynne Jan 2013 #16
Romulox Jan 2013 #18

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:56 PM

1. This is where that road leads, and it is horrible. K&R

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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:27 AM

2. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:34 AM

3. K&R nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:44 AM

4. Horrifying! A Damning Indictment of the System

That was very difficult to read.

Shame on them! And shame on us for tolerating a system capable of abusing a woman like Jamie Lynn Russell, who came to a hospital for help only to wind up dead after first being treated in so shabby, mocking and vile a manner.

The attendant hospital staff should consider themselves utterly disgraced and discredited, both as medical professionals and as human beings.

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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:12 AM

5. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:24 AM

6. My ex-wife had an ectopic pregnancy and before that was discovered

the nurses in the emergency room treated her horribly. One nurse was trying to put an IV into her arm but kept twisting the needle around and telling us the vein was moving around. Left a painful bruise on her arm. At the time I had no idea what was going on but I distinctly recall the callousness of the nurses. My wife was in terrible pain and they made her wait what seemed like forever.

We were, however, incredibly fortunate to have a most wonderful doctor come in who diagnosed her quickly and she was in the operating room within the hour. We had no idea the danger she was in.

I never understood the behavior of those nurses until years later when I learned how fanatic people can be about abortion. They were so judgmental toward us but we had no idea at the time why. We didn't even know she was pregnant.

This all happened in the liberal capital of Boulder, Colorado, back in 1988. I can only imagine how much worse women are treated in more conservative and fundamentalist areas of the country.

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Response to gtar100 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:46 AM

9. Read my post #8 on this thread...

FYI

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:32 AM

7. Scary K&R. We have become so mean in America.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:43 AM

8. K&R

... The real problem is legalized malpractice by Hospitals. To explain where I come from with this...my grown son was involved in an accident. He took out a tree one night as he was driving home under the influence of alcohol. He was by himself, and the accident involved no other vehicle, hurt no one but himself. Ambulance was called and he was transported to the hospital ER. He had a broken collar bone and a bunch of broken ribs. Yes, alcohol was the reason he found himself in such pain, but what happened to him while in the ER was not justified. They made him lay there with no pain medication, no treatment, for about 18 hours. It was as if they were punishing him for driving while drunk. Now, I used to work in the hospital, closely associated with the ER. Never once did we treat one patient differently than other patients, UNLESS the patient was experiencing apparent dire excruciating pain, whereupon they were bumped up to the top of the list. Didn't matter what had brought them to the hospital. I wanted him to file a suit against the hospital, but he was so demoralized and disappointed in himself, he wouldn't do it. He blamed himself.

Back to the current OP... I'm so so sorry Jamie Lynn lost her life. Yes, they worked against her welfare, made sanctimonious assumptions, probably thinking she was some sort of drugee wanting pain medication. And in so doing, she lost her and her baby's life two hours later. There is nothing more painful than what she was going through. My mother's last pregnancy (back in the '50s) was an ectopic pregnancy, complicated with uremic poisoning. Either she and/or the baby were not expected to live. She got lucky and had an angel for a Doctor and he pulled them both through.

Nowdays... if I go in the hospital, I let them know real quick that I have worked in the medical field and they literally tip-toe around me and take real good care of me...

Oh God... I've got to tell you one more nightmarish hospital story, and then I swear I will shut up. My Mom (yes the same Mom I mentioned above), 9 months before she passed, lost the use of her last failing kidney. 84 yrs old. In the hospital, and they talked her into letting them put her on dialysis. How she lived thru the procedure to get her ready for dialysis, I have no idea. They had to place a shunt catheter in her right upper chest, where it stayed for two weeks. When they were getting her ready to release from the hospital, they had to replace it. So, they did, and brought her back up to ICU where I was waiting for her. She started bleeding from the cath sight on her chest. I kept calling the nurses and they would come in and change the dressing and place a little pressure on it a couple minutes. Then they would disappear again. Well this happened a couple more times, and I was really becoming alarmed. Mom's blood count was already low because of her condition. So, I remember that I had a digital camera in my bag. I got it out, looked at Mom and told her to look at me. She looked at me and smiled. I took the camera away from my eye and told her "No, Mom, don't smile." Bloody bandages and all, I got a great photo and don't you know that the nurses flew in there and stopped everything they were doing...ran Mom back down to the Cath Lab and got the bleeding stopped. Viola'! that is all it took. The flash of a camera made them realize that I was not a happy camper. If you wonder why I laughed, my Dear Mother would smile every single time a camera was pointed in her direction, all thru her life. She had no idea what I was looking at thru my camera lens, (as she couldn't look down) and being thrilled to still be alive, gave me one of her famous beautiful smiles. We got such a big kick out of that picture after we got her home and she recuperated for a while... she lived about 8 more months when dialysis wasn't doing any good anymore.... I'm so sorry for monopolizing this thread. Please please forgive me..

What I will end with is this: Stand up for yourself in the hospital. If they know you will stand up for yourself, they will take better care of you!

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Response to ReRe (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:06 AM

12. thanks for the info. It's all important. n/t

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Response to ReRe (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:57 AM

15. I have had this happen to me several times......

 

broken bones and covered with road rash they scrub it out & did every painful thing they could before any pain meds.

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Response to kooljerk666 (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:39 AM

17. GDit!

If you EVER end up in an ER again in a condition like that and you're in pain, you scream to high heaven that you need something for pain. You HAVE to tell them what you are feeling. OK? Also, if they don't ask you if you want them to call someone to come and be with you (which they might not do anymore), then you ask them to make a call for you. Get a friend, or a family member, reg doctor or LAWYER to come be with you. I hope nothing like that ever happens to you again!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:52 AM

10. Another Stellar Victory for "The Drug War"

And of course we have the usual suspects falling all over themselves to "do something" about the so-called "prescription drug crisis", never mind the fact that it will invariably translate to making life a living hell for people in pain.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:00 AM

11. Who needs doctors?

Michael Bloomberg would say a few people might suffer a little.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:55 AM

13. Narcotics should be legalized..............

 

They are safer than alcohol & cause less organ damage.

Tolerance eliminating drugs exist & will be available soon (i hope).

Cops & staff who did this should be arrested & charged with the same hatred they save for planned parenthood.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:57 AM

14. K & R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:10 AM

16. This is horrific.

Ms. Russell should NOT have died.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:54 AM

18. If she had sought marijuana for pain, Obama's Department of Justice might have prosecuted her.

You are going to appeal to whom to end this War on Drugs? Our President is doubling down on it...

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