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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:10 PM

...and Spoons make people fat

I hate this "logic" thrown around by the gun advocates. The false equivalency really bugs me. Obviously it's the person with the spoon who feeds themselves to the point that they gain weight (in an over simplified idea of this analogy) but the difference is this.

Where as a spoon can make its user fat, it cannot make someone else fat though that users use of the spoon.

This is not true for a gun. The user of a gun can kill a person, whether that person had anything to do with the gun.

Logic fails...

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Response to sarin (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:02 PM

1. "The user of a gun can kill a person"

Heck, sometimes it doesn't even take that ... how many times have you heard about some kid who shoots and kills someone by accident?

No skill at all.

And that's where the "well, people kill people with knives, sticks, rocks, hammers, etc., so should we ban all those, too?" crowd doesn't cut it ... to kill someone with one of those almost always takes getting close enough to the victim where they can fight back ...

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Response to sarin (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:26 PM

2. Similarly, I've heard it compared to abortions by RW/Libertarian types, saying "It's about choice"

BUT, I've never ever heard of an ob/gyn choosing to go on a rampage and spree aborting other peoples children against their will. It's about the mother's choice, the doctor is just doing their job and performing a medical procedure. It would only be comparable to Newtown (for example) if those mothers had had a choice, which they obviously didn't.

Like you said, the user of a gun can kill a person, whether that person had anything to do with the gun. That's the big difference between these arguments that the gun nuts intentionally ignore.

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Response to sarin (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:27 PM

3. And cars kill people, too, so we should ban all cars

That's their logic. However, cars are not meant to kill people. They are the means to transport people from place to place. Guns, especially assault rifles and handguns, ARE made to kill people.

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Response to sarin (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:28 PM

4. Well, you can force feed someone. Or make them eat through peer pressure or family pressure.

You can use your knife to cut cucumbers, or cut Aunt Bertha.

The analogy for guns applies to the other tools used to kill people.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:54 PM

7. how long would it take for someone to force-feed 26 people to death?

would someone have the ability to reach the spooner and disarm them before it was too late? really looking forward to your reasoned response.

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Response to sarin (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:41 PM

6. I think it's just people being rude and mean

It doesn't logically make sense, and it's just a way to make fun of fat people. Specifically Rosie O'Donnell, right? I'm sure I've seen her hit by that.

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