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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:56 PM

Something IS wrong here.

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Reply Something IS wrong here. (Original post)
MrScorpio Jan 2013 OP
RomneyLies Jan 2013 #1
Larry Ogg Jan 2013 #33
demwing Jan 2013 #48
rhett o rick Jan 2013 #56
RKP5637 Jan 2013 #2
Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #3
Speck Tater Jan 2013 #4
Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #6
bvar22 Jan 2013 #9
pscot Jan 2013 #38
Coyotl Jan 2013 #49
bvar22 Jan 2013 #55
Coyotl Jan 2013 #62
bvar22 Jan 2013 #64
WillyT Jan 2013 #5
99Forever Jan 2013 #7
malaise Jan 2013 #8
Smilo Jan 2013 #10
Warren DeMontague Jan 2013 #11
OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #12
abelenkpe Jan 2013 #13
Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #14
dsc Jan 2013 #15
lastone Jan 2013 #18
RainDog Jan 2013 #27
truedelphi Jan 2013 #51
RainDog Jan 2013 #54
HiPointDem Jan 2013 #59
idwiyo Jan 2013 #16
lastone Jan 2013 #17
Doctor_J Jan 2013 #19
blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #20
annabanana Jan 2013 #21
yardwork Jan 2013 #22
Initech Jan 2013 #23
Amonester Jan 2013 #26
Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #24
Pauldg47 Jan 2013 #25
Wednesdays Jan 2013 #28
TheKentuckian Jan 2013 #29
Tsiyu Jan 2013 #30
SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2013 #31
raouldukelives Jan 2013 #32
fasttense Jan 2013 #34
toby jo Jan 2013 #35
another_liberal Jan 2013 #43
Madmiddle Jan 2013 #36
Romulox Jan 2013 #37
truedelphi Jan 2013 #52
toddwv Jan 2013 #39
randome Jan 2013 #40
McCamy Taylor Jan 2013 #61
philly_bob Jan 2013 #41
KoKo Jan 2013 #44
another_liberal Jan 2013 #42
Octafish Jan 2013 #45
NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #46
BlueNoteSpecial Jan 2013 #47
hue Jan 2013 #50
didact Jan 2013 #53
99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #57
HiPointDem Jan 2013 #58
McCamy Taylor Jan 2013 #60
Romulox Jan 2013 #63

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:58 PM

1. The truth shall set you free, but first it shall piss you off! n/t

 

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:14 AM

33. The truth wont set you free...

It only makes you aware of how fucked you really are.

Maybe someday, when enough people become aware of what's going on, i.e. when hell freezes over, we all will be free from the criminals that run the World.

In the meantime, bend over and make the best of it.

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Response to Larry Ogg (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:37 PM

48. Is that the truth?

if that truth makes the situation better for you, then it has set you free (if only to a degree).

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Response to Larry Ogg (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:18 PM

56. Some of us live in ignorant bliss. Others seek the truth. Those that seek the truth usually end up

trying to forget the truth. I will have a dry martunie please. Hold the olives. In fact hold the olives between your knees.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:59 PM

2. USA, Incorporated! n/t

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:00 PM

3. Swartz should have installed his own country club stooge buddies to run the SEC

That was his fatal mistake...

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:01 PM

4. Someday Wall Street will look out their windows and see

 

torches and pitchforks.

But not during basketball season. And definitely not in the winter. Or if it rains. Or if something really exciting happens on Survivor or American Idol{/i].

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:22 PM

6. You have that right.....sadly.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:27 PM

9. Got close last year!



Who knows what would have happened without:

Homeland Security,

Holder and the Pro-Suppression Justice Department,

the militarization and national co-ordination of local police

the threats posed by the NDAA,

support for the Wall Street criminals from BOTH dominant political parties...

...who knows WHAT would have happened,
or what could happen next year.

Keep the Tar HOT,
and the feathers ready!

Solidarity99!

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:23 AM

38. +1

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:56 PM

49. Close to what, close to no increase in bonuses?

Yeah, really sweating bullets over on Wall, where every trade is someone's profit.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:53 PM

55. Please try to Keep Up.

A little effort WILL save you from future embarrassments.

Post #4 by Speck Tater
4. "Someday Wall Street will look out their windows and see
torches and pitchforks. "


Response to post #4
by bvar22:
"Got close last year!"



THAT is what Wall Street saw when they looked out their windows.
That sentiment is one step away from Torches & Pitchforks.
Do you need any further explanation?

Any more embarrassing questions?

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #55)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:26 PM

62. Oh yeah, and they were sooo worried

cuz there was a protest

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #62)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 12:43 PM

64. Invoking BVAR's Postulate on Post #62.

Bvar's Postulate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240173114#post31



It isn't the Greedy Bankers that we need to influence.
Those sociopaths are beyond salvation.
We NEED to worry THESE people.


...and the good news is that they HAVE noticed,
but aren't exactly worried yet.
So we have more work to do.

You can help spread the word,
or keep posting cartoon smilies.
The choice is yours.
I've already made my choice.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
Solidarity99!
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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:08 PM

5. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!


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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:24 PM

7. Ding ding ding...

.. we have a winner.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:25 PM

8. +1,000

Rec

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:38 PM

10. K&R

n/t

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:41 PM

11. Add to that the guy in California facing 10 years for providing pot to cancer patients.

Your Tax Dollars at work, Whee!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:45 PM

12. Damn right. Dreadfully wrong. nt.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:55 PM

13. K&R nt

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:59 PM

14. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, MrScorpio.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:00 PM

15. I agree with most of your post

but the evidence that Swartz downloaded the articles is overwhelming and his intent to distribute would be above minimal as well.

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Response to dsc (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:50 PM

18. on a comparative level is the point being made i believe

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Response to dsc (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:51 PM

27. The journals who charge out the ass for those articles pay NOTHING

they don't pay the salaries of the professors or researchers who do the work. they pay honorariums, if any, to the people who compose the "peers" who review.

they pay a little bit to editors (very little) and they charge libraries outrageous fees.

fuck the journals.

fuck google, too, for getting university libraries to scan books For FREE AND THEN CHARGE PEOPLE to access them.

Swartz was railroaded b/c some fat ass in a three piece suit wanted the JD to make a lesson out of him.

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Response to RainDog (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:22 PM

51. And as I type this response - some of the researchers are putting their research up

For free - as a tribute to this young crusader.

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Response to truedelphi (Reply #51)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:35 PM

54. Libraries have been working on ways to stop this extortion from journal publishers

Research librarians have worked with professors and scientists, drs, etc. to create a free journal service with peer review in order to simply stop publishing with research journals that charge libraries so much to access.

Libraries already operate under constrained budgets. This extortion of a captive market (because any good university needs to have current research available) prevents libraries from acquiring other needed and useful material for students.

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Response to RainDog (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:33 PM

59. "fuck google, too, for getting university libraries to scan books For FREE AND THEN CHARGE PEOPLE

 

to access them"

+1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:19 PM

16. K&R

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:48 PM

17. aaron wasn't greasing any pigs

so the fking hammer comes down
even jackie chan knows this

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:56 PM

19. Also SS cuts are imminent, despite

1. 2/3 of the citizens are against them
2. We have a Dem WH and senate
3. SS keeps millions of seniors out of poverty

then there's Medicare, tax hikes for the rich, prosecution of banksters instead of cabinet positions, etc.

The country is broken.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:20 PM

20. Police State.

1984. The Mob. Etc.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:21 PM

21. k&r ! . . .n/t

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:32 PM

22. Good post.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:38 PM

23. And people wonder why the rest of the world hates us.

Some kid downloaded papers? Crime of the century!!!

Unregulated Wall Street mega billionaires steal immense wealth and defraud the entire world? Look the other way!!

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Response to Initech (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:51 PM

26. The 'un-official' excuse is, it costs tens, if not hundreds of millions to run for public office.

And lobbying is a booming line of work.

And nobody (elected) has enough power to pass Government-Funding Campaign Reform.

It's a downward spiral. Like all the rest.

Nothing will ever be done in that matter.

Revolution? Ha! Unless it's a peaceful one... <~(Only dreaming here.)

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:43 PM

24. If you have video footage of Lloyd Blankfein concealing his face with a bike helmet,

while surreptitiously engaging in cooking the books, please let the DOJ know.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:47 PM

25. Send a message to the rest of the country......

Occupy Wall Street again.....

. Pick a CEO we can start with.
. Make the scum the example...
. He will be the purpose of a occupy movement.
. Don't bring him/her to justice now...
. time will take care of it.
. Just inform the population....
. of that injustice.
. THIS WILL WORK !!
. They will slowly tumble !!

I am a retired teacher. I sub now. When I walk into a classroom of bad kids, I pick a kid who calls attention to himself....I give him a three times warning or your out...be patient...punish him if you have to...then it will be easier to handle the others. You have to back up your words or they will step on you. You have to call them out on their misbehavior and that is what this occupy movement will do.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:45 PM

28. K & R

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:23 AM

29. That is just a piece of business as usual

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:59 AM

30. The color of justice is GREEN



the more green ya' got, the more protection you get from that racket we call the Federal Government.


If this graphic doesn't prove it, nothing else will....




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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:59 AM

31. This miscarriage of justice has me fuming and depressed.

I don't know what to do with my anger. I've no idea why of all the travesties in the world today, this one is so disturbing.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:44 AM

32. To be fair Wall St has a lot of people dontaing to its defense fund.

They are called investors. While Arron has to rely on his own funds. Wall St gets enough popular support to avoid charges of laundering money for drug cartels and doing business with Iran. It makes it hard to imagine just what a Wall St firm would have to do to suffer as much as a citizen.
One thing is for sure. As long as they have so many fervent supporters, we will never know.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:23 AM

34. Aaron Swartz was hounded into suicide.

He had to spend his life's savings defending himself against an overzealous prosecutor. Even the foundation where he downloaded the educational documents from did NOT want to press charges. Yet the State AG wanted to make an example out of Aaron and proceeded with prosecution anyway. Aaron's parents were trying to get a second mortgage to help pay his legal fees. With all his money tied up in defending himself from spurious charges he could not get the medical care and attention he needed to deal with his depression.

And I think the Prosecutor knew it.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:21 AM

35. Excellent post, thanks Scorpio

CEOs needed to go down.

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Response to toby jo (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:33 PM

43. Hear! Hear!

Hear! Hear!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:31 AM

36. Historians,

that is if the "right" doesn't install re writers of history, this time we are living in will be looked upon as the most corrupt time in American history. A time where banks were given a free run to foreclose on people even when 100% of banks are proven fraudulent. Congressman and senators are paid off by corporations to do their bidding openly. The worst is even the president of the United states has rolled over to banks and corporations and crashing peoples lively hoods is the norm.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:34 AM

37. Hey, when "our guy" gets the keys to the Justice Department, things will change!

Oh, wait. Our President's Attorney General has spent the last four years rousting pot heads.

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Response to Romulox (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:23 PM

52. Hi there - buddy.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:42 AM

39. Swartz is a dumbass.

He should've incorporated before committing the alleged crimes.

Then Congress would've have sent him a big fat restructuring check which he could deposit in an overseas account and then turn around and sue the US government for the unfairness inherent in them sending him a big fat check.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:51 AM

40. Instead of conflating Wall Street with Swartz, why not focus on the attorney?

U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz is as responsible as anyone for Swartz's suicde. It needs to be made personal.

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Response to randome (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:37 PM

61. Ortiz does what her corporate masters tell her. I blame Disney.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:54 AM

41. My graphic on situation

Text is from a Swartz position paper.

[link:|

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Response to philly_bob (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:38 PM

44. Thanks for this...! n/t

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:31 PM

42. It's the (Imperial) American way.

It's the (Imperial) American way. We don't punish Generals for ordering the deaths of dozens of innocents at a time, but we prosecute and threaten to execute a private soldier for downloading and sharing documents which help bring those Generals' crimes to public attention.

Free Bradley Manning!

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:49 PM

45. Nothing like a chart.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:16 PM

46. EZ 2 KR nt

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:16 PM

47. Until We produce a National Strike....nothing will change.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 04:23 PM

50. This is what we are up against!!

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Response to hue (Reply #50)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 05:29 PM

53. Aaron Swartz Died Innocent Here Is the Evidence

Re-posted from the other Swartz thread...

I did not know Aaron Swartz, unless you count having copies of a person's entire digital life on your forensics server as knowing him. I did once meet his father, an intelligent and dedicated man who was clearly pouring his life into defending his son. My deepest condolences go out to him and the rest of Aaron's family during what must be the hardest time of their lives.

http://io9.com/5975592/aaron-swartz-died-innocent-++-here-is-the-evidence

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:28 PM

57. Well, "four more years" of Holder will fix that!!

NOT.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:31 PM

58. kr

 

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 06:36 PM

60. So true. We worship the almighty dollar. Scientific knowledge should set us free.

Instead, they want to send us to jail for thinking.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:16 AM

63. Hey guys: let's pretend that the Attorney General *doesn't* answer to the President.

That way, this won't be "our guys'" fault (even though it totally is!)

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