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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:23 PM

Autopsy: Belcher’s blood-alcohol level was .17 when he shot Perkins

So the cops find Belcher asleep in his Bentley at 3 am and decide he's NOT intoxicated and help him call his other girlfriend who lives in the apartment building where he is parked. He goes inside, where she doesn't answer the door but her neighbors see him and describe his condition as "intoxicated". He goes inside and goes to sleep, gets up 3 1/2 hours later and drives home and murders his girlfriend.

Do you think the cops would have let him go if he had NOT been a Chiefs player?? Or did he manage to get drunk to twice the legal limit while he was asleep?

Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher was legally drunk when he killed his girlfriend at their home and then himself outside the team’s Arrowhead Stadium practice facility, according to autopsy results released today.

The results show Belcher’s blood-alcohol level was .17 when he died, about five hours after police found him sleeping in his Bentley in front of his secret girlfriend’s apartment. That alcohol level is more than twice the legal driving limit.

The autopsy results for his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, showed virtually no trace of alcohol. Both autopsies showed no presence of illegal drugs.

Perkins’ autopsy showed she died from nine gunshot wounds, including one where the shot was fired at close range to the outside of her right hand, which could indicate she was trying to shield herself from the gunfire, according to a medical expert.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/14/4010286/autopsy-belcher-was-drunk-when.html#storylink=cpy

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Reply Autopsy: Belcher’s blood-alcohol level was .17 when he shot Perkins (Original post)
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 OP
Boomerproud Jan 2013 #1
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #3
niyad Jan 2013 #5
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #9
niyad Jan 2013 #2
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #4
niyad Jan 2013 #6
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #14
niyad Jan 2013 #16
sad-cafe Jan 2013 #23
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #24
sad-cafe Jan 2013 #26
NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #7
niyad Jan 2013 #11
NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #17
niyad Jan 2013 #19
HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #8
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #10
HooptieWagon Jan 2013 #12
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #13
NotThisTime Jan 2013 #15
REP Jan 2013 #18
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #20
REP Jan 2013 #25
mythology Jan 2013 #21
proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #22

Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:28 PM

1. He had a secret girlfriend only 3 months after his girlfriend gives birth?

Was committment and fatherhood that much of a strain?

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:29 PM

3. Apparently so.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:31 PM

5. welcome to DU. and, of course, we do not know how long he had been seeing this other person.

the fan I mentioned below made a big deal out of the fact that he apparently paid for the house where his daughter and her mother lived. all I can say is BFD.

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:36 PM

9. I heard he had leased it.

A friend lives nearby and he claims to know the landlord.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:29 PM

2. so if his blood alcohol level was at.17 FIVE HOURS after the cops saw him, what in the world

did it have to be when the cops saw him? he must have been totally plastered.

drunk? killed the mother of his daughter with NINE shots? secret girlfriend? not exactly the paragon a football fan I know was trying to portray him.

gee, sounds like simpson all over again (remember the frantic 911 calls and how they just let him go--after getting his autograph?)

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Response to niyad (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:30 PM

4. .22

Belcher’s blood-alcohol level at his death indicates his level could have been .22 or higher when officers encountered him in his car. Police generally assume a person eliminates about .01 of alcohol per hour, which is a conservative estimate.

The police case file, released last month, detailed Belcher and Perkins’ problems as a couple, how Belcher’s mother and the Chiefs tried to help them, and Belcher’s activities before the killings.


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/14/4010286/autopsy-belcher-was-drunk-when.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:32 PM

6. thanks--I figured it had to be well above .2.

reading the article-this line struck me:

Around 1 a.m., a friend of Perkins has told The Star, the couple argued about Perkins being out late.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/14/4010286/autopsy-belcher-was-drunk-when.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

so, he is cheating with a secret girlfriend, and secret girlfriend's apartment, yet argues with perkins about being out late? reallly?

the nine shots thing is making me sick. he shoots this woman, the mother of his child, NINE TIMES--with some of the shots, she is already on the floor, and his daughter is in the house?

any word on who is currently caring for the child? has there been a custody hearing?

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Response to niyad (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:59 PM

14. Grandparents are fighting for custody

The baby is the beneficiary of a million dollars. Both grandparents want her.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:03 PM

16. whoever has or gets custody, I hope the court appoints a g.a.l. for her money

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:45 PM

23. I am skeptical

 

they probably want the money. Poor baby.

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Response to sad-cafe (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:47 PM

24. Sure sounds like it.

Several sources have reported that Perkins was estranged from her mother and/or her family. Now they want her baby.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:15 PM

26. more like they want the money.

 

From what I have read, Belcher's mom should get custody, but she did raise a son that ended up killing his girlfriend. I feel badly for the baby.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:33 PM

7. So is it a gun related statistic or an alcohol related event?

Data manipulators could list it either way for purposes of propaganda.



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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:43 PM

11. why can't it be listed as both, and why would you label it propoganda? he was drunk, he did use

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a gun multiple times to shoot and kill his girlfriend, the mother of his child.

as for propoganda, how about talking about the fact that the police let him go hours earlier, despite his being drunk? perhaps, if they had done their job, instead of looking at a football star, ms. perkins might still be alive. I wonder if the police have given any thought to that.

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Response to niyad (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:15 PM

17. You're right, it should be listed as both, and a mea culpa:

mea culpa for bringing an argument in a different thread to this one:

context: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2190083

You're right, and both guns and alcohol abuse are severe problems.

Both need daylight, and it's only propaganda when people try to use data dishonestly.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:35 PM

19. thank you. I couldn't get through the thread to which you linked.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:34 PM

8. Perhaps he consumed the alcohol after the cops saw him,

but before shooting his gf? If theres a 5 hour span, thats plenty of time to down several drinks.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:37 PM

10. While he was asleep?

Belcher tried to call his secret girlfriend but could not reach her. He then knocked on a neighbor’s door. The two women inside said Belcher “appeared to be intoxicated.” After he told them his friend wouldn’t come to her door, they invited him inside to wait. He talked about his past and they said he “seemed to be in good spirits … laughing, joking.” He thanked them for letting him in their home. At 4:30 a.m., they gave him a pillow and blanket and he slept on the couch. He left at 6:45 a.m.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/01/14/4010286/autopsy-belcher-was-drunk-when.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:55 PM

12. In his car,

At the womens apt before going to sleep, at womens apt after waking up, in his car on way to gfs, at his/gfs house before shooting her, after shooting her, in car on way to practice facility. All we know is it was .17 when he died, what it was at any given time prior is conjecture.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:57 PM

13. The cops found him sitting in his car before he went inside and went to sleep.

I think it's obvious he was drunk but the cops were more interested in his cool car and the fact that he was a pro football player.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:00 PM

15. Wow, that is awful on so many fronts...

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:28 PM

18. Was Joe Montana ever arrested during any of the DV calls to his house?

Even a crappy team full of no-names and has-beens, Football is King in KC.

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Response to REP (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:44 PM

20. I don't believe he was.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:50 PM

25. Yet those calls and his battering are well-known ...

This guy was just drunk. Par for the course.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:44 PM

21. Alas this is hardly an isolated incident

Whether it's athletes or entertainers or even politicians, the police and other authorities are willing to let them slide. Unfortunately sometimes the results are incredibly tragic for others involved.

But I'd be interested in seeing if he had any brain injuries that resulted in CTE although I suspect there may not be enough brain matter to determine that. Not to excuse his actions, but to understand it. There is an increasing amount of information that concussions have far deeper consequences than we know.

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Response to mythology (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:45 PM

22. Yep. Between the jolts to his brain and the performance enhancing drugs,

the NFL is creating monsters.

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