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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:39 PM

Wait For It; You Know It's Coming

Now that all the gun nuts want to arm teachers, I'm just waiting for the next logical step. You know what it is.

1. The school board votes to arm every teacher roaming the halls.
2. They all have to go get the requisite training for their concealed carry permit.
3. In order to allay the fears of worried parents in the school district, the board makes it mandatory that all the teachers get some additional gun training in order to ensure the safety of the children.
4. Since this is an edict from the school board, the school district has to foot the bill for all this (the guns, the permits, AND the training), so they put a levy on the ballot in order to raise the necessary funds for all these new regulations.
5. Teabaggers show up in force to vote down the school levy because it would raise their taxes, and as we all know, all taxes are bad.

And just for good measure, after the school levy is voted down, the Teabaggers all go on TV and blame the Teachers Union for refusing to make their $20,000/yr. salaried teachers incur all these new expenses and therefore making our children less safe.

Just wait and see. The first school district that actually proposes this sort of thing will experience this very thing.

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Reply Wait For It; You Know It's Coming (Original post)
ChoppinBroccoli Jan 2013 OP
CommoFreq Jan 2013 #1
Fumesucker Jan 2013 #2
Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #3
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #4
bobclark86 Jan 2013 #13
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #18
CE5 Jan 2013 #5
Wait Wut Jan 2013 #6
samsingh Jan 2013 #7
bluestateguy Jan 2013 #8
Jennicut Jan 2013 #9
madamesilverspurs Jan 2013 #10
abbeyco Jan 2013 #11
We People Jan 2013 #23
zeemike Jan 2013 #12
Bake Jan 2013 #19
ThomThom Jan 2013 #14
bobclark86 Jan 2013 #15
Sherman A1 Jan 2013 #17
Sadiedog Jan 2013 #22
Curmudgeoness Jan 2013 #16
quaker bill Jan 2013 #20
Initech Jan 2013 #21
Wednesdays Jan 2013 #24

Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:40 PM

1. Probably so.

 

Until something happens.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:42 PM

2. Not your first rodeo, eh?

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:51 PM

3. That would be consistent.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:57 PM

4. Well now in our rural local area I read that the EMS personnel when they come to your home

 

for a health emergency they want to be able to carry a gun. Now that thought scares me to death. Can you see these people come to your home and they have guns on their hips and they go into your home and carry a patient out of the small bedroom and the gun slips out and you can see what would happen if the gun was accidently discharged.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:17 PM

13. As guns made since the 1960s generally don't go off...

from dropping (there's a federal drop test before guns go to market) unless they have been fucked with, it shouldn't be an issue, but I do understand your concern. I know some of the local rural EMS guys around here, and I just don't want them to carry anyway

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Response to bobclark86 (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:18 PM

18. me neither. I already think with a serious patient problem why would we need someone carrying

 

a gun. Especially out here where we have alot of senior citizens who live out in the rural area.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:00 PM

5. Gun violence out of hand = solution = more guns!

 

Sounds like a script written by the NRA.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:04 PM

6. No big deal, really.

Since they've already cut art, music, debate, and all the other 'liberal' courses all they have to do is cut Science. I swear you people are just so negative.








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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:08 PM

7. everyone should be a gun

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:16 PM

8. And of course teachers that choose not to carry a gun will be forced to retire

The choice to own a gun also includes the choice not to do so, a point often lost on the other side.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:20 PM

9. Whose to say there are tons of teachers that want to do this?

And it is impractical in elementary schools. As a sub, I have seen young children be unpredictable. Some might grab a gun.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:31 PM

10. We finally got rid of

the pistol packing wingnut who'd gotten himself voted onto the schoolboard, where he proceeded to raise hell for a couple of years. The bastard would bring his young daughter to meetings with him, using the need to "protect" her as excuse for wearing the gun. Thanks to his very confrontational behavior and insistence on wearing his gun at all times, the board meetings had to be relocated to school properties (where it's illegal to have firearms); his response was to walk out of every meeting in a huff. His favorite tactic of invading the personal space of anyone who disagreed with him finally got him into a couple of situations that he really couldn't talk his way out of. His radio rants reviling MLK got the community so upset that our MLK march went from 200 walkers to over 1000 (very significant for this very red town). He finally resigned, casting himself as being unfairly victimized.

Now our state senator, Scott Renfroe (R), is proposing armed school employees. This is the same guy who likes to "preach" against gays from the floor of the senate, quoting scripture all the way. Can't wait to hear what verse he twists out of shape to justify this latest idea. Gag.


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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:26 PM

11. My big question in arming teachers:

Since the reactionary right has labeled all teachers as 'union thugs', why on earth would they want these 'thugs' armed? It makes no sense.

I'm sorta being sarcastic and I'm sorta like WTF....

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Response to abbeyco (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:33 PM

23. Don't expect right wingers to be consistent

Inconsistency is "that certain something" that makes them so famously and characteristically HYPOCRITICAL.

And, of course, the "solution" to everything of arming everybody fattens the coffers of THEIR GOD AND PROTECTOR, the NRA.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:07 PM

12. And then...

the Teabaggers in congress seeing the looming crisis, introduce a bill called Help Arm American Teachers act that mandates Blackwater train them.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:19 PM

19. They will, of course, demand offset spending cuts "elsewhere" to pay for it ...

And Blackwater doesn't work cheap!



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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:19 PM

14. so are we going to have teachers walking the halls with guns on their hips?

or will the guns be in their desk drawers or on their desk with/ or without trigger locks?
will kids over power teachers and take their guns?
or sneak them when the teacher is not looking?
will this improve classroom discipline or just be a distraction to learning?
I can just see teachers walking around with six shooters on their hips catching smokers in the john
what could go wrong with this picture?

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:23 PM

15. A few points...

1) short of a few nutjobs (like a few FEW rural schools, and NOBDY at the national level in position to do anything), not even the NRA is proposing to arm teachers. The NRA called for cops.

2) Since when do union ANYTHING make $20,000 a year? Around here (middle of nowhere), it's between $35K and $45K to START, but that's just a technicality and not really a point against your argument.

3) Assuming what you are proposing actually happens, you'd probably be right. Except the schools in Texas where they teachers are already allowed to carry.

In all honesty, though, what you are saying would not honestly surprise me if it did happen .

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Response to bobclark86 (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:34 PM

17. Regarding point #2

perchance we are not all that well informed on the Union thing? I work in a Union shop and there are many who fit into the category described as making $20K or less. Granted it is another industry, but we may wish to avoid sweeping generalizations, particularly those that might be interpreted as just a bit mean spirited.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:26 PM

22. Let me chime in too.

I am also in a Union and a teacher,(Head Start) and make just 20K a year. So yes I agree with you generalizations do get people in trouble sometimes.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:30 PM

16. The same would happen if taxes need increased

for police officers in schools, or police dogs in schools, or all the other brain farts that they are having. They act like all of this will be free. I live in a small city (16,000 population), and we have 2 elementary schools and a middle/high school....that would not be cheap to do any of those things to protect all the students in all of the schools. I don't know what they are thinking.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:24 PM

20. I don't think they will want those liberal union loving teachers armed

I think the tea wackaloons will want a volunteer militia. Thank the lord that my youngest will graduate in April.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:26 PM

21. This is not going to end well. There's no scenario that will say otherwise.

Teacher shoots a student? Student grabs gun and shoots teacher? Something worse?

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Response to Initech (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:11 AM

24. Then it's all the teachers' fault

They're evil, you know.

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