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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:52 AM

This is a definition of terrorism.

We went to watch a movie last night. After Aurora and the two theater shootings last week here in the North County, we both were somewhat concerned. We still went to the theater. Every time the alert goes off (through text), I wonder if it is another shooting. Ironically overnight the cops confronted a person overnight who had an AR-15 with him...he shot himself with it. Nope, he dd not manage to kill himself either.

Good news, one less gun in circulation.

But the fact that we even have to think of the what ifs, that is the definition of terrorism.

Oh and kudos to the cops. They were confronted by an individual with a gun inside a theater and the only person shot was the one wielding the gun. Nobody else was hurt, at least physically.

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Reply This is a definition of terrorism. (Original post)
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 OP
niyad Jan 2013 #1
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #2
niyad Jan 2013 #4
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #6
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #3
niyad Jan 2013 #5
Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2013 #7
niyad Jan 2013 #8
bigapple1963 Jan 2013 #9
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #10
bigapple1963 Jan 2013 #11
nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #12
zappaman Jan 2013 #14
pintobean Jan 2013 #13
zappaman Jan 2013 #15
pintobean Jan 2013 #17
L0oniX Jan 2013 #16

Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:56 AM

1. our society is totally screwed when we have to wonder every time we step into a theater, or

a mall, or a school.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:00 PM

2. Or in my case when the alert goes off.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:03 PM

4. yes, I was thinking about that. I can turn off my phone and be out of touch--you cannot.

and if yours goes off, that generally means something bad has happened.

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Response to niyad (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:04 PM

6. Mostly minor stuff

But it was going off throughout the movie...checking the text without bothering people can be tricky.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:00 PM

3. Sounds kind of melodramatic.

I bet no one ever felt nervous going to a gun show.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:04 PM

5. nothing melodramatic about it--people are worried, they are apprehensive and concerned,

and rightly so. our society is beyond sick at this point. I am too old to worry about it, but I can understand that others do.

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Response to niyad (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:12 PM

7. Only if they give-in to fear-mongering and their own silliness

Holmes was a lone actor. In the number of rampage shootings how many have occurred at theaters?

It's the same non-sense that makes Islamophobes see a terrorist behind anyone with a Middle Eastern name.

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Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:22 PM

8. let's see, how many reports have there been about attempted theatre shootings? nadin

mentioned two just in north county and police shooting another attempted shooter. a couple of mall shootings, as well.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:39 PM

9. not really

 

terrorism has traditionally been defined as the use of violence against the civilian population in pursuit of religious, political or ideological agendas. The last element is missing, as is an overarching group with such an agenda.

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Response to bigapple1963 (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:42 PM

10. You are conveniently forgetting the second part of a definition

To change the behavior of the target population, which is happening.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:48 PM

11. in terrorism

 

fear is not the ends but the means. Thus, the goal of terrorism is not to change the behavior of the population; it is the means to accomplish one's political, religious, ideological goal.

If someone enjoys using violence to get people scared but without any other agenda, that could be better classified as mass murderer.

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Response to bigapple1963 (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:49 PM

12. Whatever buddy.

Have an excellent day.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:56 PM

14. I'm not afraid to go to the movies

Nor is my family, friends or anyone else I know.
So, your premise doesn't hold up.
Just because you are afraid, doesn't mean anyone else is.
Unless, of course, you are the center of the universe, which then would make it true, yup.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:12 PM

13. I can't find a link to what you describe

Do you have one?

I found a story about a shooting Saturday afternoon, but it involved a handgun and the suspect was shot by cops.

Suspect shot in theatre: San Diego officers critically wound gun-wielding man

SAN DIEGO Police shot and critically wounded a man Saturday suspected of chasing his girlfriend with a handgun across a shopping mall parking lot before ducking into a crowded movie theater where officers confronted him.

The shooting occurred inside the Reading Cinemas theater in northern San Diego around 3:50 p.m., and no moviegoers or officers were hurt, Officer David Stafford said.

He said officers went to an outdoor shopping center, where the theater is located, in response to a domestic violence call. No other details were immediately released.

A San Diego Fire-Rescue Department dispatcher said the suspect was taken to a hospital with life-threatening injuries.

More: http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130112/NEWS03/130112028/Suspect-shot-theatre-San-Diego-officers-critically-wound-gun-wielding-man-



Was there another one?

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Response to pintobean (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:57 PM

15. Hmmmm

That's the only one I can find.
Maybe I need to have alerts sent to my phone so I can annoy the other patrons when I see a movie?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:08 PM

17. Maybe it was a Facebook notification. nt

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:00 PM

16. I fear other drivers more than anything else.

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