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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:34 AM

Says it all.

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Reply Says it all. (Original post)
mac56 Jan 2013 OP
progressoid Jan 2013 #1
Speck Tater Jan 2013 #2
mac56 Jan 2013 #3
Speck Tater Jan 2013 #5
mac56 Jan 2013 #6
Speck Tater Jan 2013 #8
MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #10
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #9
ret5hd Jan 2013 #4
Speck Tater Jan 2013 #7
liberal N proud Jan 2013 #11
cantbeserious Jan 2013 #12
TahitiNut Jan 2013 #13
samsingh Jan 2013 #14
tallahasseedem Jan 2013 #15
The Wizard Jan 2013 #16
tclambert Jan 2013 #17
tclambert Jan 2013 #18
WillyT Jan 2013 #19
66 dmhlt Jan 2013 #20

Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:44 AM

1. +1

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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:02 PM

2. I am solidly in favor of gun control, but this is just silly.

 

It's clever, of course, but it's also clever nonsense.

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:07 PM

3. Please proceed.

Point out the nonsense.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:17 PM

5. You can also kill someone with 1/2 a dixie cup of water.

 

If you can get it into their lungs.

The point how efficient is method of delivery of the lethal effect? If someone bursts into your house with a gun are you really going to defend yourself with a knife? The odds are you will end up dead. In that situation the knife is no more effective than that 1/2 cup of water.

I don't own a gun and I never want to own a gun. But I'm not stupid enough to believe that a knife has the same effectiveness as a gun. Even a one-shot-at-a-time gun. So I would never arm myself with a knife and tell myself I was safe against a gun. I favor pure defense. Hardened doors and windows, and safe place to run and hide.

The so-called equivalency is false, so the argument is flawed.

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:20 PM

6. I think you miss the point.

"The so-called equivalency is false, so the argument is flawed."

Yes. Of course.

The point is to point out the absurdity in that argument, which many (including those right here on DU) revere as gospel.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:23 PM

8. Ah. OK. I guess I can be dense sometimes. Sorry. nt

 

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:52 PM

10. Dude.

Welcome to the club.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:30 PM

9. Depends on the argument.

One presumes, the need to further restrict and control firearms proceeds from a public safety or public health standpoint. At which point relative death rates are pertinent, and 'you can defend yourself with a hammer' is not.

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Response to Speck Tater (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:09 PM

4. Well then, you might wish to post how silly Marsha Blackburn is:

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:22 PM

7. She's an idiot. We NEED gun control, and we need it now.

 

Her argument is just as big a fallacy as the OP. It is possible to come to the right conclusion by way of faulty logic. I'm pointing out that the logic is faulty. I agree with the conclusion. But let's arrive at that conclusion by legitimate means, not by clever-sounding nonsense.

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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:53 PM

11. Great come back to the NRA and Gun Nuts equivalencies



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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:16 PM

12. Touche

eom

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Response to cantbeserious (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:55 PM

13. A fencing term in a gun thread? (Well-played.)


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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:57 PM

14. people are starting to debunk the crap from the pro-gun crowd

very eloquent

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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:06 PM

15. +1

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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:43 PM

16. Anyone seeing common

utility items as weapons probably needs to be medicated.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:54 PM

17. Medication can be a weapon. And the bottle it comes in.

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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:58 PM

18. But in China! A guy had a knife! He tried to kill 22 people! And failed!

He didn't manage to kill anybody! If only he'd had access to a gun, he could have been much more effective!

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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:26 PM

19. LOL !!! - K & R !!!




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Response to mac56 (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:54 AM

20. Good one. Storing it away for later use.

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