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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:56 AM

Why Bernie Sanders Objects to Obama's Treasury Nominee

Bernie Sanders campaigned, hard, for Barack Obama’s re-election.

But the independent senator from Vermont is not going to rubberstamp the president’s selection of Jack Lew, a supporter of banking deregulation who has passed back and forth through the revolving door from Wall Street to Washington, as the nation’s seventy-sixth secretary of the Treasury.

While Sanders caucuses with the Democrats, he represents the people who elected him. And he swears an oath to a Constitution that requires—not “allows,” requires—the legislative branch of the federal government to check and balance the executive branch.


snip* Here’s how Sanders explains his opposition to the Lew nomination:

“Jack Lew is clearly an extremely intelligent person and I applaud his many years of public service to our country. I believe that he will be confirmed by the Senate. Unfortunately, he will be confirmed without my vote. At a time when the middle class is collapsing and millions of workers are unemployed, I do not believe he is the right person at the right time to serve in this important position.

“As a supporter of the president, I remain extremely concerned that virtually all of his key economic advisers have come from Wall Street. In my view, we need a treasury secretary who is prepared to stand up to corporate America and their powerful lobbyists and fight for policies that protect the working families in our country. I do not believe Mr. Lew is that person.



http://www.thenation.com/blogs/john-nichols

on edit to correct multiple paragraphs.

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Reply Why Bernie Sanders Objects to Obama's Treasury Nominee (Original post)
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 OP
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #1
Dawgs Jan 2013 #2
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #3
Dawgs Jan 2013 #4
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #7
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #26
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #28
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #29
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #30
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #31
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #32
MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #34
tarheelsunc Jan 2013 #10
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #5
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #8
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #11
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #14
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #15
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #16
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #17
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #19
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #20
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #22
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #23
Tarheel_Dem Jan 2013 #24
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #25
socialaidem Jan 2013 #6
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2013 #9
mmonk Jan 2013 #12
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jan 2013 #18
stevenleser Jan 2013 #13
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #21
Romulox Jan 2013 #27
Zorra Jan 2013 #33

Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:32 AM

1. Well, it's a good thing Bernie ain't the only US Senator. He has such a problem with both parties,

I keep waiting for him to toss his own hat in the ring. What could possibly be the reason for his reluctance?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:50 AM

2. Bernie represents the people on the left. The two parties you reference represent the right.

It's sad that you don't see it - or maybe you do.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:06 PM

3. I am "on the left", and while I've had respect for Bernie, I wouldn't say he "represents" me. He...

represents a faction of "the left", and the president represents a much larger faction. Like I said, why is Bernie so reluctant to put his own ass on the line? I think you and I both know the answer to that. Bernie can afford to be as ideological as he wants to be, and have that "faction of the left" adore him, but he knows that they would turn on him in a NY minute the moment he stepped out of line.

I haven't forgiven Bernie for calling for my president to be primaried. He's not a Democrat, and doesn't have that right.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:19 PM

4. I don't think you know the definition of "the left".

Obama isn't a Democrat either, unless you think continued war, drone strikes, SS cuts, wall street and GOP administration, and continued tax cuts for the rich is Democratic.

I look at the person, not the label.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:08 PM

7. No "Democrat" has ever conducted war?

I don't "think you know" what you're talking about. SS cuts? So much hyperbole, so little substance.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:53 AM

26. Sanders actually believes that Social Security shouldn't be slashed

to fund tax breaks for the rich!



What a rube!

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:35 AM

28. And Sanders is only one vote. Why can't he bring his other 99 colleagues along with him?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:43 AM

29. You think the vote will be 99:1? nt

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:45 AM

30. Well, Bernie's so persuasive & congenial, I would think that 99:1 would be a piece of cake.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:54 PM

31. Maybe Bernie doesn't have enough cash.

"Few men have virtue enough to withstand the highest bidder"
- George Washington

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 12:59 PM

32. Yeah, that's the reason.





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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 02:53 PM

34. Certainly, George Washington is laughing.

Or crying.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:16 PM

10. You're using an online community that represents one of those "right-representing" parties.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:32 PM

5. He has a problem with both parties based on his convictions to represent the people, not

the corporate elite. We need many more Bernie's in the Senate and Congress.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:10 PM

8. Your response doesn't change the premise of my question. Why doesn't Bernie run? If he thinks....

the job of POTUS is a surefire way to get your agenda through divided government, why doesn't he run? That's a pretty simple question, no?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:20 PM

11. Didn't mean to ignore your question. A quote from Sanders:

Sanders has disavowed any interest in a presidential run, saying he was "very proud to be Vermont's Senator," and maintained that "I am very content to be where I am, but I am flattered by that kind of response."

Polling conducted in August 2011 by Public Policy Polling found that Sanders' approval rating was 67% and his disapproval rating 28%, making him the third most popular Senator in the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders


With that said, I wish he would, maybe he'll change his mind for 2016.

I am also hopeful about Elizabeth Warren making a run too.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:41 PM

14. I wonder if those numbers come from the poll that pitted Obama against Dean & Sanders? If so,

the POTUS blew 'em both out of the water in their own backyard. I think he was beating Dean by 30+ points, and Sanders by 20+. Bernie would enjoy the same success as did Michelle Bachmann, and Herman Cain in a presidential run. There would be the initial embrace by the far left, and when he seriously came under media scrutiny, he would fall apart. I think anyone who is as opinionated as Bernie, and who seems to feel he can run things a lot better, owes it to his fans to at least run.

As an aside, do you know of any meaningful legislation that Bernie has authored, got it through the House & Senate, and made it to the president's desk for his signature?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:55 PM

15. Clearly anyone who imagines Bernie would have the same success

as Michele Bachmann, I can't offer much more.

The poll in reference you can look up if you're interested.

Bernie represents the far left? I think that is a constrained corner to place his political
positions in..he is for social economic justice..in brief. Unless you agree that Wall Street
should have received a bail out and not receive any legal penalties, not receive any regulations with teeth either.
That is not a far left position, it is called sanity, so it doesn't happen again.


Bill Sponsorship & Cosponsorship

Some of Sanders’s most recently sponsored bills include...

S. 3562 (112th): Older Americans Act Amendments of 2012
S. 3506 (112th): Ethical Pathway Act of 2012
S. 3419 (112th): United States Employee Ownership Bank Act
S. 3421 (112th): WORK Act
S. 3272 (112th): Comprehensive Dental Reform Act of 2012
S. 3219 (112th): Federal Reserve Independence Act
S. 3080 (112th): End Polluter Welfare Act of 2012

View All » (including bills from previous years)
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:17 PM

16. Thanks for the list, but I asked if any had passed Congress, and been signed into law?

If you don't know the answer, then I certainly understand. Another DU hero, Dennis Kucinich, is good at delivering red meat, but has no significant legislative successes to speak of. Being principled is great, but if you can't persuade the body of Congress, of which you're a part, then does that make you ineffective?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:26 PM

17. I believe you can research anything else about Bernie, if you're so inclined.

How effective is the legislation already passed that does not address the ills from
Wall Street? It doesn't, not by a long shot. Legislation passed that does not have substantial
benefits, not really a benefit at all and rather pointless.

I think that is the best way I can answer your question..and why I said earlier, we
need more Bernie's in the Senate and the Congress.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:26 PM

19. I just think the disconnect between rhetoric and actual leglislative success is, at times, laugh-

able. Bernie & Dennis say all the right things, but it would be great if they were able to get some of their great ideas to the president's desk, which takes consensus building & "compromise" in their respective chambers, instead of attacking him all the time.

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:42 PM

20. They're out numbered..I thought that part was obvious in the struggle to have legislation

passed that actually produces benefits for all Americans and not give a pass to the
criminals on Wall Street....which is what we have now.

Not a laughing matter imo.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:27 PM

22. Why are they outnumbered?

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #22)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:42 PM

23. I thought that would be obvious to anyone who posts here.

Although I suspect you are suggesting that most Americans would not support
legislation as developed by Sanders regardless, the main reason we don't have more like him
is due to a corrupted election process. Money is everything.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:13 AM

24. So "money" is the only thing keeping us from electing more Bernies? I guess the....

voters have no say in that, right? Far be it from me to disagree, but we've witnessed what a real grassroots campaign is capable of, and I don't buy that it's just money. If enough people believe in you, and your vision, they'll make huge sacrifices to ensure that you're able to compete. So no, "money is NOT everything".

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Response to Tarheel_Dem (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:40 AM

25. Ok then, without corporate money everyone can compete on the same level?

I don't think so...have a good day.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:35 PM

6. I am not surprised by his reaction. He's tough on wall-street all the time.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:15 PM

9. I was just saying I can't wait to find out what Warren does...

...I just wrote her asking if she plans to support or block Lew.

Will she be a good solider now and fall in line? It will be fascinating to find out.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:21 PM

12. I agree with Bernie.

When will it end? When will someone who supports the public interest be appointed to ANY economic position?

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Response to mmonk (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:06 PM

18. Not with Obama and not with a Clinton

Obama and Bill Clinton are on the wrong side on this one. I can't support another Clinton.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:27 PM

13. I generally don't object to cabinet nominees unless they are bigots or have committed serious crimes

A President has the right to work with the people he or she feels most comfortable.

The President sets the policy regardless of the person in a cabinet position.

I've always felt fighting cabinet appointments is a waste of time.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 06:50 PM

21. That's all well and good, as long as there are enough votes to confirm.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:45 AM

27. Bernie tends to make a lot of noise, then he falls right in line. nt

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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:15 PM

33. Bernie is correct, as usual. "In June 2006, Lew was named chief operating officer of Citigroup's

Alternative Investments unit, a proprietary trading group. The unit he oversaw invested in a hedge fund "that bet on the housing market to collapse."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lew

Business people universally suck in public leadership positions.

The last thing We the People need is another Wall St. plutocrat gatekeeper as Treasury Secretary.

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