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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:38 AM

Patriotic Group To Build Armed 'Defensible' Neighborhood Fortress

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/patriotic-group-build-armed-defensible-neighborhood-fortress

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A group of like-minded patriots, bound together by pride in American exceptionalism, plan on building an armed community to protect their liberty.

The group, named Citadel, intends to purchase 2,000 to 3,000 acres for the project in western Idaho. The community will comprise of 3,500 to 7,000 families of patriotic Americans who "voluntarily choose to live together in accordance with Thomas Jefferson's ideal of Rightful Liberty."

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Citadel explains that residents in the community will be bound by the following:

Patriotism
Pride in American Exceptionalism
Our proud history of Liberty as defined by our Founding Fathers, and
Physical preparedness to survive and prevail in the face of natural catastrophes --such as Hurricanes Sandy or Katrina -- or man-made catastrophes such as a power grid failure or economic collapse.

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"Marxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles."


On edit: This post is not meant as support for this wingnut group but only to educate others to what they may not have known.

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Reply Patriotic Group To Build Armed 'Defensible' Neighborhood Fortress (Original post)
kentuck Jan 2013 OP
dembotoz Jan 2013 #1
kentuck Jan 2013 #2
Tempest Jan 2013 #31
Recursion Jan 2013 #32
pipoman Jan 2013 #7
JHB Jan 2013 #16
JoePhilly Jan 2013 #3
oleagenous Jan 2013 #4
Mr Dixon Jan 2013 #5
hobbit709 Jan 2013 #6
lunatica Jan 2013 #8
bowens43 Jan 2013 #9
Dash87 Jan 2013 #10
UncleYoder Jan 2013 #21
Dash87 Jan 2013 #45
Chorophyll Jan 2013 #11
LeftinOH Jan 2013 #12
Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #25
Paladin Jan 2013 #34
Ganja Ninja Jan 2013 #13
Javaman Jan 2013 #18
MineralMan Jan 2013 #14
JHB Jan 2013 #17
farminator3000 Jan 2013 #15
Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #37
farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39
Ikonoklast Jan 2013 #41
farminator3000 Jan 2013 #42
cali Jan 2013 #19
Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #26
Dash87 Jan 2013 #46
Javaman Jan 2013 #20
MadrasT Jan 2013 #22
jmg257 Jan 2013 #23
jmg257 Jan 2013 #24
Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #27
Marrah_G Jan 2013 #28
datasuspect Jan 2013 #29
jmg257 Jan 2013 #30
Recursion Jan 2013 #33
n2doc Jan 2013 #35
spanone Jan 2013 #36
davesliberal1977_gg Jan 2013 #38
superpatriotman Jan 2013 #40
jmg257 Jan 2013 #43
Iterate Jan 2013 #44
marions ghost Jan 2013 #47

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:42 AM

1. waco in the making?

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:45 AM

2. Relevant analogy.

I think. Except their theology is rightwingnutzism.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:01 PM

31. Waco was also rightwingnutzism

It's a disease that manifests itself into a paranoia that the government is watching your every move and wants to kill you.

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Response to Tempest (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:05 PM

32. Like with Jonestown, the politics of the Davidian "movement" might surprise you

They were all over the map, and had some pretty far left views on race.

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:54 AM

7. Probably not

more likely just a rightwing commune, while most communes lean left. The 3,500 will probably be more like 28..

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:22 AM

16. More likely a real estate fleecing in the making...

I bet the condo owner's agreements will be ironically intrusive, and that rarely ages well once the initial wave of true believers fades, or reality starts intruding on the starry-eyed initial concept.

But at least that wall will keep them safe from King Kong.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:46 AM

3. That's going to go well.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:48 AM

4. sounds kinda creepy

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:50 AM

5. SMH

Madness

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:53 AM

6. The last thing I'd call these idiots is "patriots'

Let's wait until it's built and they're all inside-then padlock the door from the outside.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:54 AM

8. That's a brilliant idea

and stay there.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:54 AM

9. they're not patriots, they are delusional, paranoid psychopaths.

I am certainly in favor having them all in one location. It will make them much easier to control or neutralize.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:59 AM

10. This is what happens when one is rich, Neo-con, and

has played Skyrim for over 1000 hours. Not a good combo at all.

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Response to Dash87 (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:22 AM

21. 3000 hours,

"3000 hours clicking on that mouse, collecting weapons and gold. It's almost as if it was a huge waste of time." Sheldon

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Response to UncleYoder (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:33 PM

45. I only have 180 hrs so far.

This darn life thing keeps getting in the way.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:00 AM

11. I'm all for it, as long as they stay in there and don't expect to use any of

our stuff -- like roads, electricity, sewers -- or expect us to bail them out in a crisis.

Live by selfish paranoid idiocy, die by selfish paranoid idiocy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:02 AM

12. I can't wait to see what the dress code is. n/t

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:41 AM

25. I bet they get neato arm-bands.

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Response to LeftinOH (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:07 PM

34. 100% Camo, 100% Of The Time.


With none of the men having a rank below major (women top out at Sargent, like God intended).



(Sarcasm alert for those in need of it.)

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:02 AM

13. Great! Group them altogether.

Less collateral damage from the drone strikes.

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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:19 AM

18. My first thought as well. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 09:07 AM

14. More likely, this Citadel thing is yet another

scam to relieve morons of their money. I predict it will never be built, but that the originators of it will make a bunch of bucks.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:22 AM

17. +1

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 10:12 AM

15. $909 for a swanky spread, sounds like a deal, i'm sure i'll fit right in...

Land outside the walls 2.5 acres

Land inside the walls 1acre

House inside the walls 1500 sq ft

Options to any House
Up to 15x30-foot workshop

Total Price per Month $909

add ~ $150 for a PANIC ROOM?!?!?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-mendelson-md/mass-hysteria_b_1239012.html

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:17 PM

37. They must plan on using the higher-end corrugated cardboard to build with.


I hope they scam as much money from those paranoid idiots that they can.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:49 PM

39. it says 'poured concrete' on the site

just like THE COMMIES!

maybe they could extract the bricks from their heads to build with...

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Response to farminator3000 (Reply #39)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:53 PM

41. More like 'poured pudding' for that price.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:10 PM

42. they could also access their heads for some pudding

and use it for mortar.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:21 AM

19. this is an idiotic little pipe dream which DU is predictably giving far more attention

to than it deserves. It has been reported exactly nowhere.

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Response to cali (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:43 AM

26. Spoilsport.

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Response to cali (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:38 PM

46. We need a cheap laugh every once in a while

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:21 AM

20. first they pick the very original name of the "Citadel"

Then they choose put themselves in the middle of no where. Then they want to collect probably the crazy of the crazy-est in one area where, no doubt, each one of these fools wants to be the leader.

I ask you, what could possibly go wrong?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:27 AM

22. Oh my.

Every Citadel home will come with a 2,500 gallon water tank, a one year supply of food for either 1 or 2 adults, 1 or 2 AR15-variant rifles and 1,000 rounds of ammunition per rifle, a generator, a composting toilet, a vault, a protective Safe Room. If you are bringing more than 2 adults, additional ARs, ammunition and food will be added for a tiny fee.


Holy crap these folks are nuts.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:36 AM

23. Ooohhh...put me down for a blockhouese near the Firearms Museum and Reflecting Pool.

Always wanted to know if the AR-7 really does float!!!



Citadel Patriot Agreement
Patriots: The following represents a voluntary set of conditions to which every single Patriot who accepts a residence in the Citadel must agree, in writing. This is a voluntary Agreement. The Citadel is a martial endeavor designed to protect Residents in times of peril (natural or man-made). The Citadel will be built as a fortified bastion of Liberty. The Citadel is not the best housing solution for everyone. Read carefully.

The purpose of this agreement is two-fold. Firstly, it informs all Residents of their obligations to their fellow Patriots. Secondly, this Agreement will assist individuals/families in making an informed decision to opt-out of residency in the Citadel Community in the event our lifestyle is incompatible with you and/or your family.


Preamble: We the People come together in this covenant of our free will and do pledge our Lives, our Fortunes and our Sacred Honor to defend one another and Jefferson's Rightful Liberty, defined as unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. We further affirm our intent to abide all Constitutional laws of the United States of America and our State of residence.

One: Once ratified, this list of conditions may only be altered by unanimous consent of all parties governed by this Agreement, i.e. full-time Residents. Full-time residency will be defined by a select panel of full-time Residents who will also establish guidelines for acceptable exceptions for absences.

Two: Every able-bodied Patriot aged 13 and older governed by this Agreement shall annually demonstrate proficiency with the rifle of his/her choice by hitting a man-sized steel target at 100 yards with open sights at the Citadel range. Each Resident shall have 10 shots and must hit the target at least 7 times.

Three: Every able-bodied Patriot aged 13 and older governed by this Agreement shall annually demonstrate proficiency with a handgun of choice by hitting a man-sized steel target at 25 yards with open sights at the Citadel range. Each Resident shall have 10 shots and must hit the target at least 7 times.

Four: Every able-bodied Patriot of age within the Citadel will maintain one AR15 variant in 5.56mm NATO, at least 5 magazines and 1,000 rounds of ammunition. The responsibility for maintaining functional arms and ammunition levels for every member of the household shall fall to the head of household. Every able-bodied Patriot will be responsible for maintaining a Tactical Go Bag or Muster Kit to satisfy the Minuteman concept. Details TBD and posted elsewhere.

Five: Every household within the Citadel will remain stocked with sufficient food, water, and other preparedness essentials (to be detailed elsewhere) to sustain the needs for every member of the household for a duration of one year.

Six: Every able-bodied Patriot aged 13 and older shall pass a class every three years sponsored by the Citadel on basic emergency medical care; the courses shall focus on battlefield and wilderness environments.

Seven: Every child attending Citadel schools with parental discretion for maturity shall have as part of every semester's class curriculum basic marksmanship and firearms safety training leading to the proficiency test on the child's 13th birthday as a "Coming of Age" rite of passage (a parent may attend the classes or personally train the child if so desired). Children attending schools beyond the Citadel, or home-schooled, are required to meet the same proficiency standards at age 13.

Eight: All Patriots, who are of age and are not legally restricted from bearing firearms, shall agree to remain armed with a loaded sidearm whenever visiting the Citadel Town Center. Firearm shall be on-the-person and under the control of the Resident, not merely stored in a vehicle.

Nine: Each household will provide ONE able-bodied Patriot (aged 13 or older) who shall muster one Saturday per month for Martial/Support Training for neighborhood-level training & musters, as set forth by the Militia Commanders of the Community. No single Patriot shall be required to muster more than once per quarter. In the course of every calendar year every able-bodied Patriot and every full-time resident in each household must participate in at least three musters (one neighborhood-level and two full-scale). Part-time residents must participate, in good faith, to the best of their ability.

Ten: Twice annually a full-scale Town Defense Drill will be held for all households and all residents (once in winter weather & once in summer weather).

Eleven: The Town Militia will hold an award/recognition ceremony on April 19th each year to celebrate Patriot's Day.

Twelve: Violations of this Agreement will result in review by an arbitration panel consisting of Citadel Residents with appropriate and proportional disciplinary action taken. The most severe disciplinary action may include the loss of Lease and expulsion from the community.

Thirteen: All Citadel Citizens agree to accept dispute resolution by an arbitration panel in the event a problem that cannot be resolved between residents.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:39 AM

24. Ahh...and the "escape clause" for being LAWFUL gun-owners...

Q5: Do you agree to abide Constitutional laws of the State of Idaho and the United States Government?

Defined by whom, I wonder?

Maybe Citadel III Arms...

"Even though we'll be behind our own walls, the laws of the land still stand....at least until they don't. At that point, common sense will reign supreme. Until that point, though, we're still subject to BATFE rules and regs on who, what, when, where and why of firearms ownership."

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:44 AM

27. Let me guess, it's in Woodbury, GA and lead by a guy known as "The Governor"



Now with canned Zombie fights every Friday!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:53 AM

28. I don't have a problem with this

If that is how they wish to live, so be it.

I feel the same way about more socialist/communist types of communities.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:00 PM

29. Is their leader named Scorpio Jericho or something?

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:00 PM

30. Just like Disneyland - but with ARs! (and without the rides!)

"The model will be similar in many ways to that of Disneyland. It is walled, gated, private property with controlled access"

Every Gun Appreciation Day will feature a special appearance by - you guessed it!

Machine Gun Mickey!!!


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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:05 PM

33. *shrug*

Better to have them all in one place, I suppose.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:10 PM

35. Wonder what a MOAB would do to their 'fortress'?

MOAB is a guided bomb which delivers the 18,700 lb BLU-120/B warhead bomb with KMU-593/B GPS/INS. The MOAB is the largest-ever satellite-guided, air-delivered weapon in history . The 21,600-pound MOAB is an improved replacement for the unguided 15,000-pound BLU-82 Daisy Cutter. It is 30 feet long with a diameter of 40.5 inches. The warhead is a blast-type warhead. It was developed in only nine weeks to be available for the Iraq campaign, but it was not used in combat.

The 21,700-pound bomb contains 18,700 pounds of H6, an explosive that is a mixture of RDX (Cyclotrimethylene trinitramine), TNT, and aluminum. H6 is used by the military for general purpose bombs. H6 is an Australian produced explosive composition. Composition H6 is a widely used main charge filling for underwater blast weapons such as mines, depth charges, torpedoes and mine disposal charges. HBX compositions (HBX-1, HBX-3, and H6) are aluminized (powdered aluminum) explosives used primarily as a replacement for the obsolete explosive, torpex. They are employed as bursting charges in mines, depth bombs, depth charges, and torpedoes. HBX-3 and H-6 have lower sensitivity to impact and much higher explosion test temperatures than torpex. The MOAB weapon produces a very large explosive blast, with lesser fragmentation effects due to a thin-walled aluminum casing.

Contrary to some published claims, it most certainly is not an Ethylene-Oxide Fuel-Air Explosive (FAE). Some initial reports had stated that this replacement for the BLU-82 bomb uses more of the slurry of ammonium nitrate and powdered aluminum used in the BLU-82. Other reports indicated that the MOAB might use tritonal explosive as opposed to the gelled slurry explosive of the BLU-82. Contrary to some reports, it is not capable of deep ground penetration.

Like the BLU-82, the MOAB rests in a cradle on an airdrop platform inside a C-130 aircraft. Due to the size of the ordnance, the item is extracted from either an MC-130 Talon II or "Slick" C-130 Hercules by way of a parachute. A drogue parachute extracts the weapon, cradle and platform-and the weapon is quickly released to maintain maximum forward momentum. The grid fins then open and begin guiding the weapon to its target.

The MOAB weapon is based upon the same principle as the BLU-82 "Daisy Cutter", except that it is larger and has a guidance system. The weapon is expected to produce a tremendous explosion that would be effective against hard-target entrances, soft-to-medium surface targets, and for anti-personnel purposes. Because of the size of the explosion, it is also effective at LZ clearance and mine and beach obstacle clearance. Injury or death to persons will be primarily caused by blast or fragmentation. It is expected that the weapon will have a substantial psychological effect on those who witness its use. The massive weapon provides a capability to perform psychological operations, attack large area targets, or hold at-risk threats hidden within tunnels or caves.



http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/moab.htm

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:13 PM

36. what is 'patriotic' about that?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:21 PM

38. What a bunch of nutters

 

It seems like the whole nation is going nuts these days. I think the FBI should keep a really good eye on these freaks.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:52 PM

40. Meanwhile...

Unpatriotic, America-hating traitors to keep open society full of boogeymen.

Crazy fucks.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:33 PM

43. Turns out this is also most likely a scam in the making...

Google:

Christian Kerodin / Chistian Hyman / Jim Kerodin / Sam Kerodin
Sam Kerillion / Kerodina Press

and wife
Holly Kerodin


Christian - convicted for extortion, allegedly ran a few different scams, etc.

Holly blogs at the III Citadel sites, along with "Jim", was "publisher" of an allegedly scam Wench Magazine

Then, if you feel the need to shower, read this crap:

http://www.kerodin.com/five_primary_tribes.htm

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:06 PM

44. Location, location, location...the "Beachhead"

Evidently, they found a beach in northern Idaho and intend to land there. They assure prospective residents they will be safe from hurricanes. Fair enough.

Rampaging methheads from Salt Lake who drive up there to steal their radishes are likely to find it tough going. Does anyone need to mention that it's also the white supremacist part of Idaho?

Our first choice for the location of the Citadel is Benewah County, Idaho. We are confident that the county is an ideal fit offering low population density and, importantly, a shared world-view with most of its Liberty-minded residents: independence, self-sufficiency, and patriotism.

The job opportunities and array of industries that will come with our Citadel project should be sufficient to put the entire county to work thereby eliminating unemployment and reducing the existing double-digit poverty level to zero.

The county is spectacularly beautiful and perfectly suited for our project goals. In fact, the Citadel has already purchased 20 acres atop a mountain in Benewah County that we call our Beachhead, and is considering a larger contiguous purchase. On our beachhead we intend to build a Showcase for the Citadel, complete with a scaled Curtain Wall, condos, houses, the initial factory for III Arms Company, and
http://iiicitadel.com/location.html

...and who cares, it's just a new level of exurban white flight with neighbors to share the grim fantasy. My gawd, what they must dream of at night.

Something tells me there's a headline in our future that includes the words "attempt to serve a warrant".

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:02 PM

47. Like Waco or more similar to the preppers in the missile silo condos in Kansas?

This sounds better than a missile silo. I wonder if target practice is mandatory.

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