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Mon Jan 14, 2013, 05:46 AM

Character and Rape in Ohio

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/15524-character-and-rape-in-ohio

The girl was from another state, across the river, and didn't go to the local high school, so she was disposable - apparently - not just to the high school football players who raped her or watched or took pictures, but she was also disposable to the lackadaisical police officers who investigated, to football coaches who testified as character witnesses for the accused, to the school authorities who let the football coach handle the situation, to the woman prosecutor with a football player son, and to all too many residents of the town of 18,000 with the need for a winning football team more on its mind than justice, or decency.

This image of the victim was posted online by Steubenville football player Cody Saltsman.
(photo: Cody Saltsman/Instagram)Although two of the 50 or more people taking part in the hours-long event were arrested eight days after the girl's parents reported the rape, there is little evidence that the authorities in the town acted as responsibly and conscientiously as they should have at the time, or at any time since last August. Rather, they appear to have done as little as they thought they safely could, without obvious dereliction of duty, out of fear of (or agreement with) prevailing community standards of behavior and local power structures. Perhaps the trial will dispel that impression

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eridani Jan 2013 OP
exboyfil Jan 2013 #1
radicalliberal Jan 2013 #9
WCLinolVir Jan 2013 #2
eridani Jan 2013 #5
mtasselin Jan 2013 #3
radicalliberal Jan 2013 #4
dsc Jan 2013 #6
radicalliberal Jan 2013 #8
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radicalliberal Jan 2013 #12
Whisp Jan 2013 #10
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Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #14
Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #7

Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:46 AM

1. The superintendent of Steubenville schools

sat down with reporters and took questions, and the reporters demonstrated that, if they found a story, it would be like a blind squirrel finding a nut. Several questions which should have been asked:

1. Where any of the paid or volunteer coaches present at these parties in which alcohol was served to minors?
2. What about the report that one coach passed on bringing the girl to his party but sent the teens on their merry way?
3. What about the comments of one of the unpaid assistant coaches that the girl had to make up the story - because what else could you do after a night like that?
4. What about the threat made by the head coach towards the New York Times reporter?
5. Were the students suitably disciplined at the time or did the coach wait until the season was almost over and any playoff hopes were mostly gone?
6. The students who observed, filmed, and testified that were removed from extracurricular activities - are they currently engaged in activities (like wrestling for example)?
7. Do you plan any discipline of the coaching staff?
8. Is this type of drinking/parties typical for your sports teams and how do you reconcile that it is against the law?
9. Did you make any effort to find out how your students got access to alcohol?
10. Are you going to allow discipline decisions of the students to remain in the hands of the head coach?

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:38 PM

9. I wonder how many of these reporters were football fans.

Perhaps they didn't want to ask searching questions.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:30 AM

2. Feel free to let Mr McVey and the school board know what you think.

Michael Mcvey-mmcvey@scsohio.org,
phone-(740) 283-3767
mail-1400 West Adams Street Steubenville,Ohio, 43952
The high school index below,
http://scs.steubenville.k12.oh.us/scs/index.php?
Lastly- a link to the school board superintendent-
http://www.jcesc.k12.oh.us/StaffDirectory.aspx
You can also see the governing board. I will edit and post emails for them.

The only thing these people seem to respond to is pressure and negative publicity. Let's make it uncomfortable for them to hide and abet rape, non-violently of course, as we would not want to ruin our lives over garbage. Libel, is, as I understand it, a statement alleging facts about an action. But apparently you can call them names all day long, just don't say "you are a pig who let rapists roam the halls of the school", unless you make it non-specific, as "apparently there are pigs who let rapists roam the halls" or clearly state it as an opinion. I am not a lawyer. If these people sue over posts to a blogger....

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Response to WCLinolVir (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:23 PM

5. Thanks for the links n/t

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 08:32 AM

3. Football

Did you ever notice that anything that pertains to football is protected. Think what has been happening around the country with budgets and they have to cut, cut and cut everything but football. Now you have this unbelievable tragedy, and the hell with morals and what is the right thing to do we must protect these poor boy's. There should be a house cleaning in Steubenville starting with the D.A. next the police chief and right down the line who ever came to the defense of these animals.

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Response to mtasselin (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 07:08 PM

4. Football has been treated as a sacred cow for generations, and this is what we get.

Have you noticed the peculiar reactions of many football fans to these three situations?

1) Pedophile coach rapes young boys -- OUTRAGE

2) Professional football player tortures and kills dogs -- OUTRAGE

3) Teenage girl or young woman is gang-raped by local football players -- "Who cares?" "We don't want to hear about it!" "But football builds character!" "She's lying!" "She brought it on herself!" "She's a slut!" "You're anti-sports!" "You're hurting the team's chances of winning!"

So, in the minds of many football fans (not to mention the sports media), young boys and even DOGS are more important than girls and young women. A rather interesting set of priorities, I must say!



There's an interesting article at Good Men Project entitled "When Football Championships are Bought with Silence" by Christopher M. Anderson. According to the biographical blurb, "Christopher M. Anderson is the Executive Director of MaleSurvivor the leading not-for-profit organization committed to preventing, healing, and eliminating all forms of sexual victimization of boys and men through support, treatment, research, education, advocacy, and activism." Here's a link to the article . . .

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/social-justice-championship-trophies-bought-with-the-silence-of-victims/

. . . and here's a quoted excerpt . . .

The ethical distortion created by the incredible amounts of money generated by major college football was cited by the Freeh report as one of the reasons the Sandusky scandal occurred at Penn State. Hero worship of (and the financial boon created by) sports programs such as Division I football creates an environment where abuse and trauma are tolerated and excused. To be clear, neither football, nor sports itself, are responsible for alarmingly high rates of sexual and interpersonal violence in our society. However, it is undeniable that young men and women are abused by members of major university football programs at some universities. Oftentimes these survivors are shunned, re-victimized, and ignored by administrators and fellow students who are far more concerned about preserving the “integrity” of a sports program than they are about ensuring the victim of a crime gets the support they need. Exactly the same dynamic, sadly, as occurred at Penn State for decades, thus enabling Jerry Sandusky’s horrific crimes.


Disgusting, isn't it? Where's the compassion?

There are decent men in the world of football who are trying to change the culture.

They have a lot of work to do.





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Response to radicalliberal (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:28 PM

6. Have to say that the pedophila took quite some time to generate outrage

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Response to dsc (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:30 PM

8. Actually, you're right.

Did you hear what happened to one of the victims, who was a senior at his high school? Well, he was "outed" by one of the coaches at his school, if I remember correctly. Later his mother would tell a media source that the grandmother of one of the Penn State football players had walked up to her and said, "Now my grandson's football team is going to lose; and it's all your son's fault!" (I don't remember her exact words that were quoted in the online news article, but what I've just said is very close.) She expressed no sympathy to the mother over the fact that her son had been raped! Yeah, lady, I suppose her son seduced Sandusky (sarcasm). The grandmother was more concerned about the chances of her grandson's football team not having a winning season than she was that the woman she was speaking to had a son who had been raped by Sandusky! Classmates of the victim blamed him for JoPa's image being tarnished! Can you believe these people? Absolutely pathetic! He was bullied so much that he had to drop out of school! No wonder I'm not a football fan! These people have no compassion for the victims and put the football program above them. These people deserve respect?

So, really DOGS are elevated over young boys; and teenage girls and young women come in last. In other words, dogs are more likely to receive sympathy than human beings who have been raped! What a morally confused (to put it mildly) set of attitudes!

Pity any rape victim who "gets in the way" of a football program.

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Response to radicalliberal (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:26 PM

11. In fairness the Falcons either couldn't or didn't

obstruct the criminal case and the criminal case is what engendered to outrage. If it is that the Eagles couldn't then they don't deserve much credit.

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Response to dsc (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:48 PM

12. ?

What do birds have to do with this?



falcons


eagles


(No offense. Just havin' a little fun! )

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Response to mtasselin (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:42 PM

10. I fucking Hate mega-sports.

 

and people on DU here hate me for thinking that.

it's a nest of all kinds of possible injustices and abuses.

It's Stupid Human Tricks

It's useless besides making big money for a very few and mesmerizing the masses to become asses.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:03 PM

13. I don't hate you (see posts above), and neither do some of the others.

Don't let them get you down.

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Response to Whisp (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:33 PM

14. Those NFL divisional playoffs were pretty good last weekend, though.

And thanks for the gratuitous insult to sports fans.

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Response to eridani (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 10:29 PM

7. Glad this story is still in the news

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