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Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:38 PM

With its Silence the Republican Party Shows Support for Violence Against the Government

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With its Silence the Republican Party Shows Support for Violence Against the Government

By: Rmuse
Jan. 13th, 2013


A patriot is someone who feels strong support for their nation, its government, and people who share unquestioned loyalty to their homeland. There is a misconception in America playing out since the election of President Obama that being a patriot is wrapping oneself in the American flag while clutching a bible to one’s bosom with one hand, and a firearm in the other, while at the same time threatening the domestic tranquility of citizens and peaceful existence of the legally elected government. Over the past four years, and especially the past year, there has been a rising chorus of conservatives calling for, or threatening, revolution or civil war against the government because they oppose the democratically elected President, and to cover their seditious speech, they cite the First Amendment’s right of free speech as justification for inciting armed conflict against the government.

It is true that speech is protected by the First Amendment, but the Supreme Court has ruled there are restrictions on speech that endangers the public or threatens the government. In 1919, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., writing for a unanimous High Court, ruled in Schenck v. United States that it was a violation of the Espionage Act of 1917 to distribute flyers opposing the draft during World War I, and argued this abridgment of free speech was permissible because it presented a “clear and present danger” to the government’s recruitment efforts for the war. Holmes wrote, “The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.” However, the ruling in Schenck was later overturned by Brandenburg v. Ohio in 1969, which limited the scope of banned speech to that which would be directed to and likely to incite imminent lawless action.”

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What one finds interesting is that none of the so-called leaders of the Republican Party, conservative pundits, national neo-conservative news organizations, or National Rifle Association have made any attempts to tamp down the seditious rhetoric inciting civil war, revolution, or violent action against the government over legally enacted laws such as the Affordable Care Act or discussions about gun safety measures. It is not that they advocate for violence or a new American revolution, but they do encourage opposition to this President and any agenda not originating from neo-conservatives at any cost; even sedition.

It is possible that many of the people calling for revolution or civil war are just ranting and raving at election results they disagree with, but for every irate, disaffected gun-fanatic with a public forum, there are thousands of heavily-armed Americans just waiting for a signal to start shooting people, and like yelling fire in a crowded theatre, are creating a clear and present danger they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent. Sadly, since Republicans advocate any means of advancing opposition to the legally elected President of the United States, it is safe to say that not only will they never condemn seditious speech and calls for a new American revolution, their silence is tacit consent.

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Reply With its Silence the Republican Party Shows Support for Violence Against the Government (Original post)
babylonsister Jan 2013 OP
Publiuus Jan 2013 #1
Cirque du So-What Jan 2013 #2
bunnies Jan 2013 #4
indepat Jan 2013 #3
salinen Jan 2013 #5
former9thward Jan 2013 #10
indepat Jan 2013 #11
santamargarita Jan 2013 #6
davidn3600 Jan 2013 #8
santamargarita Jan 2013 #12
The Wizard Jan 2013 #7
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Jan 2013 #9

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 03:51 PM

1. Congress doesn't have rights

 

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Response to Publiuus (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:33 PM

2. Please proceed, Governor

This orta be good...

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:03 PM

4. seems we have a drive-by.

kinda fitting dontcha think?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:25 PM

3. Seditious rhetoric from the right is and has been an accepted threat the public has been

far too willing to accept during my lifetime (early FDR 1st term), but enoughs enough. Perhaps it's about time for government to figuratively bust some heads, bloody a bunch of noses, and otherwise put a large hurt on these purveyors of hate, rebellion, and insurrection.

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Response to indepat (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:12 PM

5. Sometimes

 

I like the thought of non-civil actions against these seditious rascals.

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Response to indepat (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:41 PM

10. J. Edgar Hoover from the grave.

Your post reads like one of his memos.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 09:02 PM

11. Trust me: any parroting of JEH was unintended. Bet he was speaking of literally instead of

figuratively.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:17 PM

6. George Orwell's 1984 is their "how to" guide.

They have always hatred this country and the people in it that aren't white racists.

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Response to santamargarita (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:43 PM

8. Careful bringing up Orwell...

Considering how Obama is expanding our domestic spy programs, Orwell may have been on to something.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 14, 2013, 11:22 AM

12. No argument there.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 06:36 PM

7. Yet they fancy

themselves as "patriots."

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jan 13, 2013, 07:00 PM

9. Hmm. Unquestioned loyality? I not only questioned Bush and cronies over the illegal wars, torture,

 

spying, patriot act, I screamed from the top of my lungs that he should be impeached and that they all should be tried for war crimes. What they did was criminal and unconstitutional.

So it's considered unpatriotic to question your government? I must be getting old.

By: Rmuse
Jan. 13th, 2013

A patriot is someone who feels strong support for their nation, its government, and people who share unquestioned loyalty to their homeland.


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