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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:43 PM Jan 2013

Christian School USED Children To Clear Dangerous ASBESTOS – Without Protective Gear



Hmm, aren't these the same hypocrites who want to protect the unborn? Doesn't seem too important now.





A Christian school in Ohio is under criminal investigation for one cost-cutting measure; a measure which could cut some students’ lives painfully short.


The students, some as young as 13, participated in a volunteer project which involved gutting an old YWCA in preparation for the building becoming the new site of their school, the Buckeye Education School in Berea, OH. The project took place over several weekends and the walls of the YWCA were filled with the deadly substance, asbestos. The students wore no protective gear.


Ohio and federal law requires that school and public building asbestos abatement is performed by trained and accredited personnel. A neighbor to the YWCA, and an asbestos abatement professional, Darren Clink, shot a video of the students as they removed asbestos filled debris with buckets and a front-end loader. From WKYC:


“The entire site was contaminated with asbestos and the people who were doing it were all children,” said Clink. “The kids were loaded with it.”

Additionally,

When regulators visited the site on Dec. 13, they found three dumpsters filled with debris believed to contain asbestos, as well as potentially contaminated material strewn about the property, according to Ohio EPA inspection reports.

Inside, almost all of the interior walls as well as the ceiling had been removed, leaving pipes and other surfaces exposed. It also appeared that debris had been dumped into the deep end of the former Y’s pool.

Subsequent tests found that floor tiles, pipes and duct fabric were all filled with asbestos, the records show.


http://www.wkyc.com/news/article/277343/45/Investigator-Students-gut-asbestos-filled-building



Buckeye Education is overseen by Sterling Education, whose vision statement ironically includes, “adequately funded academic programs and safe, well-maintained, proper school facilities.” Both Buckeye and Sterling have declined to comment on the situation. Asbestos is a naturally occurring material that was commonly used in building construction until about the late 1970s and early 1980s. It is still used in some automotive brakes and clutches. Asbestos has not been banned in the US and it is still mined in Canada and Russia.


Asbestos is harmless until it becomes airborne. While the substance itself is not toxic, it can lodge itself in the lungs and even a single fiber can cause inflammation and scarring, which can lead to a variety of lung problems, including cancer.


cont'



watch video:



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01/12/christian-school-used-children-to-clear-dangerous-asbestos-without-protective-gear-video/




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librabear

(85 posts)
2. Was it asbestos or vermiculite?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:50 PM
Jan 2013

I am curious if it was asbestos, or vermiculite. The way to describe it makes it sound more like vermiculite that is best. Vermiculite isn't really that harmful all. I did a lot of research on it on account of having it in the attic of my first house, built in the 1950s.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
4. The neighbor who shot the video is a asbestos abatement professional. He labeled it asbestos.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:54 PM
Jan 2013
"....neighbor to the YWCA, and an asbestos abatement professional, Darren Clink, shot a video of the students as they removed asbestos filled debris with buckets and a front-end loader."
 

librabear

(85 posts)
8. I just watched the video
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jan 2013

Definitely a stupid thing to do. The kids will be fine though. That stuff is nasty, but a few hours of exposure on a few weekends isn't going to hurt anybody.

I wonder if they knew ahead of time. The article doesn't say anything about that.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
12. How do you know if those kids will be fine? They used NO protection.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jan 2013

Masks, safety glasses, gloves at the very least when rehabbing any building.

Reading how this group of Xian cult idiots expected their congregation keep itself separate from the outside world's influence is no excuse. Too bad none of the sheep will sue this church for endangering the kids - the hell with the ignorant adults.

I'm sure somewhere in the paperwork there was a warning this older building may contain asbestos and other information on what to do and how it should be handled.

 

librabear

(85 posts)
15. It's not poison
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:45 PM
Jan 2013

The effects are cumulative. The people affected by this stuff are the people that dealt with every day for years. I've taken asbestos out of my house before. Mist it with water to keep it from making dust and wear a respirator. It never affected me slightly. Futher, in the place the worst of it was insulation on the boiler pipes. It didn't look like they hardly touched in in the picture.

I am not defending this, just stating what I believe to be accurate.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
18. But it wasn't misted with water and in removing it, disturbed and released it into the air
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:21 AM
Jan 2013

and everywhere. I understand the point you're making about longterm exposure increasing the risk of asbestos related cancer or other complications.

What bothers me is that I'm sure they also swept it up looking at the debris on the floor and the dusty coating around the place. They probably tore down, knocked down, pulled or ripped materials and released the asbestos particles.

Here's what the government says about exposure in the home. I'd think it be even more cautious in a commercial building.

I bolded the exact reference I'd be concerned about. Also these were kids, not grown adults. They've got a long life ahead of them to accumulate lots of other nasty toxic things which may or may not be worse because of this.

Then after this thing is exposed, this Christian School then hires a qualified company to come in and finish the job.

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/453.html

How Can Asbestos Affect My Health?

From studies of people who were exposed to asbestos in factories and shipyards, we know that breathing high levels of asbestos fibers can lead to an increased risk of:

lung cancer:
-- mesothelioma, a cancer of the lining of the chest and the abdominal cavity; and
-- asbestosis, in which the lungs become scarred with fibrous tissue.

The risk of lung cancer and mesothelioma increases with the number of fibers inhaled. The risk of lung cancer from inhaling asbestos fibers is also greater if you smoke. People who get asbestosis have usually been exposed to high levels of asbestos for a long time. The symptoms of these diseases do not usually appear until about 20 to 30 years after the first exposure to asbestos.

Most people exposed to small amounts of asbestos, as we all are in our daily lives, do not develop these health problems. However, if disturbed, asbestos material may release asbestos fibers, which can be inhaled into the lungs. The fibers can remain there for a long time, increasing the risk of disease. Asbestos material that would crumble easily if handled, or that has been sawed, scraped, or sanded into a powder, is more likely to create a health hazard


Lots of powdery stuff in that building and in those dumpsters.

I'm just saying, if it were my child, I'd have had a really huge problem with this. Then again, I'm not so deep into a religion that basically tells me to ignore the outside world and behave in a sheep-like manner as this one does. I'm just a bit curious to hear the parent's comments. Geez, the kids just walking down the sidewalk was even odd looking to me.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
3. Asbestos doesn't cause cancer. If anybody gets cancer, it's because they
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jan 2013

have fallen out of Gawd's favor. If those kids stay good fundies and pray very loudly and publicly and work to deny teh gay their rights, Gawd will protect them.

See how that works?

Squinch

(50,890 posts)
7. I was going to say the same thing. They've been made to ingest tons of asbestos, but
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jan 2013

if they get cancer, they will be told that it was because they lacked faith.

They shur do love their childrens, don't they?

Mopar151

(9,973 posts)
9. These bastards need to be HURT.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:24 PM
Jan 2013

Myesthesioma (asbestos cancer) killed a good friend of mine ("Uncle" Charlie Rutan) - but he was a plumbing contractor in the day, when nobody knew.
Some loudmouth imbecile likely said "Aw, that asbestos stuff is all gubamint bullshit! They just want to take more of ya money!" .
Culpable adults need to be held accountable, for child endangerment and assault. in criminal court. Arrested, cuffed, jailed bailed, and indicted.

Sterling Education and Buckeye Education, and any church groups involved, need to be sued into oblivion, with proceeds placed in trust for future medical expenses for the kids.
In addition - egregious negligence of this nature likely rises to the standard of gross negligence which enables corporate officers and other involved parties to be held individually laible. This is known as "pierceing the corporate veil". There are far better legal minds than mine here - I happen to know about this because of my involvment in motorsports - whose existence in these litigous times depends on these distinctions in liability.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
16. The good news is that the kids should be fine.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:57 PM
Jan 2013

The school should be shut down for demonstrating such incredible stupidity and recklessness with their health, but the odds of these kids having any negative effects from this exposure are statistically near-zero. In fact, there's never been a documented case of asbestosis resulting from a single exposure.

Asbestosis requires the buildup of a large amount of asbestos fibers in the lungs. That kind of buildup pretty much requires repeated exposure over a long period of time. Living in a house with loose asbestos will do it. So will working with asbestos containing products regularly. Inhaling it once isn't going to raise your risk of cancer or asbestosis in any significant way.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
17. Why do these OUTRAGE stories so OFTEN have SCARY all-caps headline WORDS?
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:01 AM
Jan 2013

Is everyone on DU applying for an INTERNSHIP at the Weekly WORLD News?

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